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Carnwadrick

^ and your point is? very few politicians, or motivational speakers (which is about all the Messia is) write their own speeches.

Carnwadrick

Butt I don't know why you're posts are totally ignored maybe everybody knows what an antagonistic sodomite you are so they don't want to give you the opportunity to respond but frankly I don't give a shit I find your statements about Governor Pallin offensive in fact I find just about everything you post here to be nothing better than wanker crap

Texpat

He and a few others think its clever to get a rise out of fellow posters. Ignore him.

pai nai ma

^,^^

and i quite enjoy it. green for the alleged sodomite, butterfly.

AntRobertson

What a sterling bit of bald-faced hypocrisy that is.

Bugs

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I guess she must have changed her postion then?

The above artical is from her 2006 run for governor.

Bugs

We can only hope.

Milkman

I know this. I've studied campaign and elections.

My points is that even sophisticated people I know were very enthused about Palin's speech.

I think speeches by politicians should be read, not watched & heard. (Even reading speeches, only reveals abstract and obscure points.)

As stated, I don't watch conventions or listen to them. Occasionally, out of casual interest I'll scan a speech transcripts.

Again, these conventions speeches (and the coming debates) focus on the low-info voters, and it's these low-info voters who are independent, who may tilt the election either way.

The marketing, branding, and staging of national politicians and political messages is an art. The of the best are the ones writing speeches, making adds, and inventing soundbites for the masses.

The real issues the US faces are not discussed.

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Butterfly

Thanks for the support

ah, you seem to be another American conservative with no sense of humor when your "candidates" are being questioned and ridiculed, grow up bitch, who the fuck care what you find offensive,

raycarey

so true, imagine the posts of the alleged conservatives on this board if the dems had nominated this woman.

and btw, our fears about our sarah not being all that bright have some merit....it took her 6 years and 5 colleges to finagle an undergraduate degree.

Politics | Palin switched colleges 6 times in 6 years | Seattle Times Newspaper

pai nai ma

My error regarding her stance on abortion and the life of the mother. sorry.

hat tip to rc and bugs.

Texpat

I think the Palin nod for VP took the wind out of BO's sails.

Suddenly, the GOP represents something new too. A lot of BO's momentum and nearly his entire platform is based on change -- and he had it in spades. His VP choice was a predictable, necessary move to fill in his gaps.

McCain had the dual advantage of choosing second and not having to chose a crutch.

Now change will occur regardless of which party makes the White House.

pai nai ma

he may well come to rue the day he passed on hillary.

Texpat

I agree, an Obama-Clinton ticket would have smoked any GOP combination.

It would have made for some terribly uncomfortable years around the Capitol though.

Butterfly

wishful thinking, when revelations about her "dodgy" past surface, she will be become a huge liability,

raycarey

unlikely.
half the populations of the country hates (not just dislikes hillary clinton), and having her on the ticket would have revitalized the GOP base to such an extent that obama wouldn't have had a chance in most of the swing states.

Butterfly

absolutely, Hillary only asset was her husband, and that's it, her as VP doesn't make any sense

pai nai ma

on the other hand he would have appealed to all hillary voters and mccain would have gone with liberman (or libermanish). interesting in any case and i am sure it be will dicussed forever should obama lose

Bugs

I would agree with RC on this one. An Obama-Clinton ticket would certainly change the dynamics of the race, but I doubt that pair would have a bigger lead than the Obama-Biden pair currently have.

I think Obama would have gotten a bigger bump with the Clinton announcement. But as RC points out there are just too many American that hate the Clintons, and it would have done wonders to energize the base of the red team.

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Bugs

If Obama loses there will be lot's of finger pointing going on from the Hillary folks.