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Butterfly

Mormons do not have a good reputation in the US though, mostly because of the pedos and multiple wife associations,

Scientology is much more influential and vicious IMO,

pai nai ma

No way. Do your homework.

ChiangMai noon

can you recommend any GOP evangelical forums?

Jet Gorgon

It is so obvious that the left and right here are so divided. The lefties just want a change from Bush and think the answer is Obama. The right want a change too, but understand that Libbies will just take the US to Euro socialist land. America is the land for hard work with opportunities and tax breaks for businesses, big and small. Please don't make America like welfare states France and Britain.

Texpat

I hate to break this to you CMN, but not all religious whackjobs are Republican.

I'd say your hero, B.O. is a bit of a god-freak.

JoGeAr

Palin denies affair ahead of debut

13:00 AEST Thu Sep 4 2008
1 hour 6 minutes ago



Sarah Palin addresses the Republican Party faithful. (Getty Images)
Agencies, with ninemsn staff




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Just hours before her high-stakes debut at the Republican Party Convention, US vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin reportedly had to deny allegations she had an affair with her husband's business partner.
The party's chief strategist Steve Schmidt described the story in US magazine National Enquirer as "scurrilous".
"The smearing of the Palin family must end," Schmidt was today quoted as saying in the Sydney Morning Herald.
"The allegations contained on the cover of the National Enquirer insinuating that Governor Palin had an extramarital affair are categorically false. It is a vicious lie."
"The efforts of the media and tabloids to destroy this fine and accomplished public servant are a disgrace. The American people will reject it."
Palin, who began her address to the convention at 12pm (AEST), lashed out Barack Obama and styled herself as a scourge of the Washington elite.
The Alaska governor defended her credentials to serve as vice president, saying she was steeped in executive leadership experience.
"Here's how I look at the choice Americans face in this election," the 44-year-old mother-of five said.
"In politics, there are some candidates who use change to promote their careers. And then there are those, like John McCain, who use their careers to promote change."
Palin also noted she had served as a small-town mayor in her native Alaska, saying in another swipe at Obama that the job was like being a community organiser "except that you have actual responsibilities".
Obama got his start in politics as a community organiser in Chicago after law school.

Palin also lashed out at the media, which she blamed for fanning a clutch of controversies which have dogged her since Republican presumptive nominee McCain named her as his running mate last week.
"I'm not a member of the permanent political establishment and I've learned quickly, these past few days, that if you're not a member in good standing of the Washington elite, then some in the media consider a candidate unqualified for that reason alone.
"But here's a little news flash for all those reporters and commentators: I'm not going to Washington to seek their good opinion — I'm going to Washington to serve the people of this country."
The speech represents a key moment in a Republican bid to quell a personal and political storm raging around Palin, which yesterday led Democrats to question McCain's judgment and the extent to which he vetted his shock choice.
Palin is also proving an juicy target for American comedians.
Just days after McCain tapped her as his running mate, late-night US television talk-show hosts were already poking fun at her complicated family set-up and colourful life as an avid hunter and "hockey mum".
Palin's 17-year-old unmarried daughter is pregnant, and the governor is under investigation for firing an underling who refused to dismiss a state trooper going through a messy divorce from Palin's sister.
"The Palin family crisis that we were talking about on Sunday and Monday ... has been solved now, and today the baby is being adopted by Angelina Jolie," CBS Late Show host David Letterman deadpanned yesterday.
The sheer volume and pace of disclosures about Palin have been like catnip to comedians, many of whom have complained that Democratic nominee Barack Obama has proven relatively goof-proof.
Palin offers a rich melange of fresh material just when age jokes about Obama's Republican rival, McCain — who at 72 would be the oldest first-term US president — are starting to wear thin.
"You could get a vaudevillian troupe, and they could do two hours of stuff that's already been written and circulated about her," said Robert Thompson, a media and pop culture scholar at Syracuse University.
Much of the humour is drawn from Palin's passion for guns, moose hunting, limited experience in public office and large and growing family — all in a state viewed as a bastion of idiosyncrasy.
Thompson said Palin was attractive to comedians because of her hero status among social conservatives who just months ago decried the teenage pregnancy of Jamie Lynn Spears, sister of pop star Britney Spears, as setting a bad example for girls.
Jay Leno, star of NBC's The Tonight Show, put his spin on Palin's daughter's pregnancy, joking: "Apparently she told McCain about this a week ago, but what happened was she said it into his bad ear."
The many facets of Palin's predicament set her apart from others in the pantheon of modern political punchlines, such as Idaho Sen. Larry Craig's restroom scandal, John Edwards' extramarital affair and vice president Dick Cheney's hunting accident.
"Another vice president who's a hunter. What could go wrong there?" Leno joked.
The last time a major-party vice presidential pick was so heartily lampooned was when Dan Quayle, a young Indiana senator, was named as President George HW Bush's running mate in 1988.
Quayle was widely spoofed as a political light-weight with a "deer-in-the-headlights" look, but they went on to win the election by a healthy margin.


Palin denies affair ahead of debut

pai nai ma

And this fact/perception has shifted the political debate in some interesting ways.

ChiangMai noon

yes, I know that.

it's why I said most seppos were doolally and not most Republicans.

sabang

Sounds nice Jet, but the facts inconveniently do not fit.

In the last 30 years, the Real wage of the American working man has remained basically static. Yes, we know the Rich have got a lot richer.

In that same 30 year period, wages and quality of life in these 'Socialist countries ' of France and Britain have leapfrogged the US- to the point where the minimum wage of a Brit is now roughly double that of a Yank, and average household wealth considerably higher. But of course- thats not the governments fault.

Sorry, but the average American has gotten a raw deal from the republicans.

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pai nai ma

More than nationality -- identity.

Jet writes prisoners doing life in hope of marriage in her non-td hours.

britmaveric

GLOBAL/WORLD INCOME PER CAPITA GNI, GNP, GDP, 2008, 2007 2006, 2005 Wealth, Rich Country Ranking, Rank, Developing Countries : Finfacts Ireland

Check your facts again - seems Yanks are 7, and UK is ranked 11.

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Texpat

Why let facts ruin a good stereotype?

pai nai ma

Brit's input in this thread is like having a quacking duck walk through a dinner party.

Quack! QUACK! ............

ChiangMai noon

i know he gets criticised, but personally I'm rather glad they never exceed a line in length.

Carnwadrick

Or maybe they are in love..it happens
Careful your lisp is showing

sabang

Nice work Brit, but you miss the point. What I am referring to is household income, not -

"GNI per capita (formerly GNP per capita) is the gross national income, converted to U.S. dollars using the World Bank Atlas method, divided by the midyear population."

Which includes corporate income.

britmaveric

Thats one more thing we have in common CMN.

Carnwadrick

Governor Sarah Palin has completed her speech and it was awesome YEHHHHHHHHHHHHH she knocked the ball out of the park (Merican talk for yous wankers who don't get to vote)...I got bored reading all the negative and unbelievable crap that the leftist TDrs have been writing so jumped to the end here to say: Sarah Palin will be the next VP and then the President of the USA . she is smart, articulate and will not take any crap from anybody..putin and Mustafafag (Iran) watch out

ChiangMai noon

wanker talk, best left to the ryder cup mob and highly inappropriate for a civilised person.

sabang

^^ you can always place a bet on it C, just like brit has done.
Fantastic odds, given your confidence- a 250% return.