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Camel Toe

Maybe it's a matter of face. If Bush said we need Homeland, we need Homeland. Just think of the staff and all those bills they have to pay. If they didn't produce they'd at least have to appear they were producing. They probably have a quota to meet, like a Thai cop. I tell you what, I feel a whole lot safer knowing the pilot of my next US flight has a name I can pronounce.

DrivingForce

There are so many inaccuracies on both sides of the isle here it's hard to know where to begin..

The security is a sham I guess no one saw the report just last night on CNN where the reporter doing the report is also on the terrorist watch list and he interviewed 3 other people all with the name "James Robinson" of all things who also were on the watch list, the reporters name was Drew something or other but it sure wasn't Muslim sounding.

The James Robinson's were a Lawyer, (OK bad example) a pilot who is authorized to carry a gun on his plane, (bit of irony there) and a 5 year old boy who is now 8 because this has all been happening for the past 3 years in spite of numerous attempts from all three (the boys parents) to get their names removed.

The really sorry part about this whole thing is that they have all found ways around the security by just changing something in the way they put their name down like running the first and middle names together for example which could be considered a typo, so what's the f'king point??

So I too am forced to wonder what puts you on this list in the first place? But most certainly it isn't just related to Muslims so you can get over that notion altogether. It seems pretty damned hap-hazard to me..

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Butterfly

that's what happens when you let government taking over your personal info, everything get fucked

if the government can't even win a war with a third world insurgents, how do you expect them to run your homeland security efficiently,

they just can't, they are too big and too stupid to do anything, even with a smart ass like GW Bush at the top

Jet Gorgon

I guess they flag all the Mohammeds, too.

Texpat

How many Muslim pilots in the US? Hundreds, I would imagine. Maybe thousands. When you consider the long haul flights from the ME, whose crews RON, several thousand.

But this one guy is getting shafted.

How about the Muslim pilots in the USAF? Guess their commanders have a thick dossier on them and pair them with trusted agents ...

Jet Gorgon

^ Never let them sit in the back.

zedhex

Person = Not ME! = Shoot him = Raving paranoia.

pickel

How many muslim pilots that are "converts" are there flying in the US? In the USAF? Prolly quite a few born again christians and maybe even a few new jews. Or how about former christians that have become atheists?

machangezi

Glad to know you realised.

machangezi

That's me fucked then.

bkkandrew

^Where's the 'flag up' function on TD then?

Texpat

As much as you would like to believe Americans sit around mulling over religion, you're wrong. Most people could really care less.

Muslim convert? Unless someone strode out in the street with a giant sign declaring himself a Muslim convert, nobody would give a shit.

But keep up the stereotype. It's well worth the effort.

pickel

Then why is it always one of the main election issues? So it's just the TD american contingent that mulls it over?

Texpat

Is it a main issue?
I couldn't tell you the religious preference of either candidate.
I presume they're both christians, but fuck if I know, or care.

There are religious zealots in the US, as with any country. But they're the fringe freaks. Thirty percent of the US population claim no religion at all (myself included). The majority of the remainder claim a religion, but don't go to church/mosque/synagogue or pray or read religious books or any of that silly shit.

They're only Christian/Jew/Wiccan/Rastafarian because their parents told them they are. That's where it ends.

AntRobertson

-"Among "developed nations", the US is one of the most religious. According to a 2002 study by the Pew Global Attitudes Project, the US was the only developed nation in the survey where a majority of citizens reported that religion played a "very important" role in their lives, an attitude similar to that found in its neighbors in Latin America"

-"Most U.S. adult citizens identify themselves as Christians (76.5 - 78.5% [2][3]) 2001 survey[2] found 15% of the adult population to have no religious affiliation, still significantly less than in other postindustrial countries such as Britain (44%) and Sweden (69%).[4]"

Might want to check your facts there Tex.

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Texpat

Define "a very important role" in their lives. Many people who haven't been into a church for a decade or read the bible or can't remember the last time they said a prayer would answer that way. Especially the old people.

You could live a perfectly normal life in Baltimore, or Cincinnati or Los Angeles for many, many years without ever having a single conversation on religion.

It's just not as pervasive as you "imagine." Unless somehow I happened to live in some parallel universe and you have your thumb on the pulse of America, I'd say my version is far closer to the truth than yours.

pickel

Why is it such a big deal what Obamas pastor says then? Or who in his family is a muslim? Or if he is himself? Or parties trying to get the "Jew" vote. Or the influence the "religious right" has. Or the non-stop Islamaphobia, especially by the American TD contingent?

AntRobertson

Right, yours would be the version where you're just voicing your own, totally unsupported and unsubstantiated, opinion. Mine would be the one with links to studies and reports that have examined the issue.

Please, tell us more about the US Tex.

Texpat

Wright was a presidential candidate's mentor and