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Old 19-08-2008, 11:43 AM   #61 (permalink)
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Who does Obama think he is? Upstart.
i think the term you're looking for is uppity.
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Who does Obama think he is? Upstart.
i think the term you're looking for is uppity.
Yep...an elitist uppity____. You fill in the blank...heh
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Old 19-08-2008, 06:05 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Who will win this election?
I think Barry O has a very good chance of winning.
Why do I think that?
Because I never thought William Jefferson Clinton stood a chance against George Herbert Walker Bush who went from being one of the most popular US Presidents ever to being beaten by a slick talking, philandering Arkansas governor.
And that 2000 and 2004 elections were both cliffhangers
Never underestimate the stupidity of the american voter I say.
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Yep...an elitist uppity____. You fill in the blank...
Where's that bone through his nose Blackgang when we need him?
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Who will win this election?
I think Barry O has a very good chance of winning.
Why do I think that?
Because I never thought William Jefferson Clinton stood a chance against George Herbert Walker Bush who went from being one of the most popular US Presidents ever to being beaten by a slick talking, philandering Arkansas governor.
And that 2000 and 2004 elections were both cliffhangers
You've oversimplified things....again.

Texas went to H. Ross Perot. That swung the election. And remember that GH. Bush had an approval rating of over 80% in the April before the election. One of the things that sunk him was the economic downtown.

Not about about smooth talking.



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Never underestimate the stupidity of the american voter I say.
9/10 are so ignorant they should not even be voting in my opinion.

And the nine out of ten stat is from a statistically valid poll.
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9/10 are so ignorant they should not even be voting in my opinion..


That's probably about right.

Can you imagine how different things might be if the Republicans has fielded someone different in 1996 other than Bob Dole.

Like maybe Alan Keyes...
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Can you imagine how different things might be if the Republicans has fielded someone different in 1996 other than Bob Dole.
and here we have the post election strategy for the TD issues forum "conservatives"......if mccain wins--we told you he'd win.......if obama wins---we never liked mccain anyway....he's not a real republican.
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don't be shy boon mee. what word do you think belongs in the blank.
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Old 20-08-2008, 03:30 PM   #69 (permalink)
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Mr Earle,

After Bob Dole was nominated for the GOP in 1996, I stopped voting Republican and started voting Libertarian, and still do and still will vote Liberatarian.

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What's interesting about McCain is that many conservatives do not like McCain. If McCain picks a moderate VP it will reduce the influence of the right-wing Christians, IMO. Even if he picks a social-religious-conservative, I don't think McCain will pander to the Christian-rigt.

And this, I like.
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Even if he picks a social-religious-conservative, I don't think McCain will pander to the Christian-rigt.
sorry, i guess you missed it. he already has. remember the 'agents of intolerance'?

you, like many, still think john mccain is the same man he was in 2000. that's simply not the case. he's a shell of his former self.
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Even if he picks a social-religious-conservative, I don't think McCain will pander to the Christian-rigt.
sorry, i guess you missed it. he already has. remember the 'agents of intolerance'?

you, like many, still think john mccain is the same man he was in 2000. that's simply not the case. he's a shell of his former self.
Maybe he's "changed" just to appeal to these folks, and won't follow through.

Can you say more details about how he's changed? He still supports gay marriage and some other issues.
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No he supports the State's right to decide. He doesn't believe in having the federal government legislate the issue.
He clearly states that marriage should be reserved for unions between a man and a woman.
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i think the term you're looking for is uppity.
It's all in your head, ray. Can it be fixed?
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No he supports the State's right to decide. He doesn't believe in having the federal government legislate the issue.
He clearly states that marriage should be reserved for unions between a man and a woman.
Thanks for the clarification, Mr Earl. I've grown a little sloppy as I've been following less of these election follies.

Still, I hope McCain will not pander to the Xtian right.
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Thanks for the clarification, Mr Earl. I've grown a little sloppy as I've been following less of these election follies.
I'm tiring of all this election crap also. I can't wait to get back out to the country away from TV and Internet.
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The only focal issue there is abortion, he's clearly defined about that.
The only catch is whether his VP will share the same ideology. Though he's also clearly stated that his VP with share his core beliefs. This would put Mitt Romney in the VP slot it seems.
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Thanks for the clarification, Mr Earl. I've grown a little sloppy as I've been following less of these election follies.
I'm tiring of all this election crap also. I can't wait to get back out to the country away from TV and Internet.
Yes, the TV in the US was awful. Histerical, constant, loud. I can tolerate the internet because I can pick and choose the style, info, and format. But I've largely tuned out. Nothing new to gain, really. Just speculation about who will win.

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The only catch is whether his VP will share the same ideology. Though he's also clearly stated that his VP with share his core beliefs. This would put Mitt Romney in the VP slot it seems.
I am starting to think the Romney as a VP is possibly positive.
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^He could do a lot worse than Romney.

Funny thing that McCain has many excellent choices for his VP:

Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour
Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush
Florida Gov. Charlie Crist
Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina
Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee
Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison of Texas
Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-D) of Connecticut
Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin
Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty
Former Rep. Rob Portman of Ohio
Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney
South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford
Sen. John Thune of South Dakota
Bobby Jindal of Louisiana

While it seems the Barry O. field of choices is severely limited.
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