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Old 16-08-2008, 09:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Obama citizenship liability

Oh-no, nothing is as it appears to be.
Barry apparently holds dual citizenship with Kenya.

Oooops didn't they vet this guy?
I'm afraid he's going to break a lot of europeans with american hearts and americans with european hearts.
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Old 16-08-2008, 09:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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GWB is a citizen of LaLa Land, so what's up. Sure signs of desperation when the extreme right start clutching at these kind of straws.
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Old 16-08-2008, 09:57 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 16-08-2008, 10:00 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Wouldn't it be easy to clear all this up?
Why the controversy?
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Old 16-08-2008, 10:13 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Most of the people pulling Bushes strings hold dual American-Israeli citizenship but that doesn't seem to bother the Right.
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Old 16-08-2008, 10:14 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Why the controversy?
Exactly! Why so many threads in one day on it?
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Old 16-08-2008, 10:18 PM   #7 (permalink)
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If he's a duel citizen of Kenya, I don't think it's a big deal.

Look at the Israeli duel citizens in high levels of US government.

Who is worse? Israel or Kenya.


I am not worried about Kenya.
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Old 17-08-2008, 12:55 AM   #8 (permalink)
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John McCain was born in Panama.

Jesus Christ, these Americans just don't travel, do they?
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Old 17-08-2008, 01:55 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Most of the people pulling Bushes strings hold dual American-Israeli citizenship but that doesn't seem to bother the Right.
But they ain't the president.

This could be interesting. People will wonder. ie, if he really messes up and gets charged with say sedition, he could run away to Kenya. Like Fujimori of Peru did when he was charged with dereliction of duty and fled to Japan.
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Originally Posted by pickel Most of the people pulling Bushes strings hold dual American-Israeli citizenship but that doesn't seem to bother the Right.
Who ? not challenging you but would like the names please
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Old 17-08-2008, 03:26 AM   #11 (permalink)
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There seems to be controversy whether he was actually born in Hawaii or in Kenya as well
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Old 17-08-2008, 03:35 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Why the controversy?
Exactly! Why so many threads in one day on it?
Seemed like the dual citizenship issue was a separate issue from the birth certificate issue.
Don't you think these are legitimate question for your Messiah?
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Old 17-08-2008, 04:23 AM   #13 (permalink)
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There seems to be controversy whether he was actually born in Hawaii or in Kenya as well
There seems to be a legimate question too that he's really a bastard as well. His alcoholic father was not married to his mother at the time...heh...

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Old 17-08-2008, 04:42 AM   #14 (permalink)
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^ Come now, Boonie. If his father was muslim how could he be an alky?
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Old 17-08-2008, 04:45 AM   #15 (permalink)
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^ Come now, Boonie. If his father was muslim how could he be an alky?
Alcoholic Muslim perhaps?
Probably a lot more of 'em out there than one would think...
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Old 17-08-2008, 09:50 AM   #16 (permalink)
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^ Fuck, you know there is a lot of em out there, it is not really again the rules to drink, but it is a side law of Saudi because a bunch of Bedouins got drunk and raised some hell with one of the royal family's once so it was made again the law there and now kinda seems like it is a Muslim thing which it was not.
Every Saudi I have seen away from Saudi was drinking , They come over to Manama and belly up to the bar daily and just show you how obnoxious a son of a bitch can be.
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Actually it could come in handy. Travelling on a US passport can have liabilities. When he becomes president, he could travel on his Kenyan passport, purely as a safety issue.
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Maybe we should offer him an aussie passport, too.
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Don't you think these are legitimate question for your Messiah?
Believe me, He ain't my messiah. Just like McCain, once either one of them gets elected they'll start to work for the people who funded their campaigns, not the people who voted for them.

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Who ? not challenging you but would like the names please
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Michael Mukasey
Recently appointed as US Attorney General. Mukasey also was the judge in the litigation between developer Larry Silverstein and several insurance companies arising from the destruction of the World Trade Center on 9/11/2001.
Michael Chertoff
Former Assistant Attorney General for the Criminal Division, at the Justice Department; now head of Homeland Security.
Richard Perle
One of Bush's foreign policy advisors, he is the chairman of the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board. A very likely Israeli government agent, Perle was expelled from Senator Henry Jackson's office in the 1970's after the National Security Agency (NSA) caught him passing Highly-Classified (National Security) documents to the Israeli Embassy. He later worked for the Israeli weapons firm, Soltam. Perle came from one the above mentioned pro-Israel thinktanks, the AEI. Perle is one of the leading pro-Israeli fanatics leading this Iraq war mongering within the administration and now in the media.
Paul Wolfowitz
Former Deputy Defense Secretary, and member of Perle's Defense Policy Board, in the Pentagon. Wolfowitz is a close associate of Perle, and reportedly has close ties to the Israeli military. His sister lives in Israel. Wolfowitz came from the above mentioned Jewish thinktank, JINSA. Wolfowitz was the number two leader within the administration behind this Iraq war mongering. He later was appointed head of the World Bank but resigned under pressure from World Bank members over a scandal involving his misuse of power.

Lawrence (Larry) Franklin
The former Defense Intelligence Agency analyst with expertise in Iranian policy issues who worked in the office of Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Douglas Feith and reported directly to Feith's deputy, William Luti, was sentenced January 20, 2006, "to more than 12 years in prison for giving classified information to an Israeli diplomat" and members of the pro-Israel lobbying group American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC). Franklin will "remain free while the government continues with the wider case" and his "prison time could be sharply reduced in return for his help in prosecuting" former AIPAC members Steven J. Rosen and Keith Weissman, [who] are scheduled to go on trial in April [2006]. Franklin admitted that he met periodically with Rosen and Weissman between 2002 and 2004 and discussed classified information, including information about potential attacks on U.S. troops in Iraq. Rosen and Weissman would later share what they learned with reporters and Israeli officials." (source: sourcewatch.com).

Douglas Feith
Under Secretary of Defense and Policy Advisor at the Pentagon. He is a close associate of Perle and served as his Special Counsel. Like Perle and the others, Feith is a pro-Israel extremist, who has advocated anti-Arab policies in the past. He is closely associated with the extremist group, the Zionist Organization of America, which even attacks Jews that don't agree with its extremist views. Feith frequently speaks at ZOA conferences. Feith runs a small law firm, Feith and Zell, which only has one International office, in Israel. The majority of their legal work is representing Israeli interests. His firm's own website stated, prior to his appointment, that Feith "represents Israeli Armaments Manufacturer." Feith basically represents the Israeli War Machine. Feith also came from the Jewish thinktank JINSA. Feith, like Perle and Wolfowitz, are campaigning hard for this Israeli proxy war against Iraq.
Feith was investigated by the FBI under suspicion of leaking classified information to Israel, being that he was Larry Franklin's boss when Franklin leaked those documents to Rosen and Weissman of AIPAC. For that he was forced to leave the National Security Council. Feith was also investigated by the Senate Intelligence Committee for sexing up 'intelligence' that was used to justify invading Iraq.
Edward Luttwak
Member of the National Security Study Group of the Department of Defence at the Pentagon. Luttwak is reportedly an Israeli citizen and has taught in Israel. He frequently writes for Israeli and pro-Israeli newspapers and journals. Luttwak is an Israeli extremist whose main theme in many of his articles is the necessity of the U.S. waging war against Iraq and Iran.
Henry Kissinger
One of many Pentagon Advisors, Kissinger sits on the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board under Perle. For detailed information about Kissinger's evil past, read Seymour Hersch's book (Price of Power: Kissinger in the Nixon White House). Kissinger likely had a part in the Watergate crimes, Southeast Asia mass murders (Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos), Installing Chilean mass murdering dictator Pinochet, Operation Condor's mass killings in South America, and more recently served as Serbia's Ex-Dictator Slobodan Milosevic's Advisor. He consistently advocated going to war against Iraq. Kissinger is the Ariel Sharon of the U.S. Unfortunately, President Bush nominated Kissinger as chairman of the September 11 investigating commission. It's like picking a bank robber to investigate a fraud scandal. He later declined this job under enormous protests.
Dov Zakheim
Dov Zakheim is an ordained rabbi and reportedly holds Israeli citizenship. Zakheim attended Jew's College in London and became an ordained Orthodox Jewish Rabbi in 1973. He was adjunct professor at New York's Jewish Yeshiva University. Zakheim is close to the Israeli lobby.
Dov Zakheim is also a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and in 2000 a co-author of the Project for the New American Century's position paper, Rebuilding America's Defenses, advocating the necessity for a Pearl-Harbor-like incident to mobilize the country into war with its enemies, mostly Middle Eastern Muslim nations.
He was appointed by Bush as Pentagon Comptroller from May 4, 2001 to March 10, 2004. At that time he was unable to explain the disappearance of $1 trillion dollars. Actually, nearly three years earlier, Donald Rumsfeld announced on September 10, 2001 that an audit discovered $2.3 trillion was also missing from the Pentagon books. That story, as mentioned, was buried under 9-11's rubble. The two sums disappeared on Zakheim's watch. We can only guess where that cash went.
Despite these suspicions, on May 6, 2004, Zakheim took a lucrative position at Booz Allen Hamilton, one of the most prestigious strategy consulting firms in the world. One of its clients then was Blessed Relief, a charity said to be a front for Osama bin Laden. Booz, Allen & Hamilton then also worked closely with DARPA, the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, which is the research arm of the Department of Defense.
Judicial Inc's bio of Dov tells us Zakheim is a dual Israeli/American citizen and has been tracking the halls of US government for 25 years, casting defense policy and influence on Presidents Reagan, Clinton, Bush Sr. and Bush Jr. Judicial Inc points out that most of Israel's armaments were gotten thanks to him. Squads of US F-16 and F-15 were classified military surplus and sold to Israel at a fraction of their value.

Kenneth Adelman
One of many Pentagon Advisors, Adelman also sits on the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board under Perle, and is another extremist pro-Israel advisor, who supported going to war against Iraq. Adelman frequently is a guest on Fox News, and often expresses extremist and often ridiculus anti-Arab and anti-Muslim views. Through his racism or ignorance, he actually called Arabs "anti-Semitic" on Fox News (11/28/2001), when he could have looked it up in the dictionary to find out that Arabs by definition are Semites. I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby
Vice President Dick Cheney's ex-Chief of Staff. As chief pro-Israel Jewish advisor to Cheney, it helps explains why Cheney is so gun-ho to invade Iran. Libby is longtime associate of Wolfowitz. Libby was also a lawyer for convicted felon and Israeli spy Marc Rich, whom Clinton pardoned, in his last days as president. Libby was recently found guilty of lying to Federal investigators in the Valerie Plame affair, in which Plame, a covert CIA agent, was exposed for political revenge by the Bush administration following her husband's revelations about the lies leading to the Iraq War.
Robert Satloff
U.S. National Security Council Advisor, Satloff was the executive director of the Israeli lobby's "think tank," Washington Institute for Near East Policy. Many of the Israeli lobby's "experts" come from this front group, like Martin Indyk.
Elliott Abrams
National Security Council Advisor. He previously worked at Washington-based "Think Tank" Ethics and Public Policy Center. During the Reagan Adminstration, Abrams was the Assistant Secretary of State, handling, for the most part, Latin American affairs. He played an important role in the Iran-Contra Scandal, which involved illegally selling U.S. weapons to Iran to fight Iraq, and illegally funding the contra rebels fighting to overthrow Nicaragua's Sandinista government. He also actively deceived three congressional committees about his involvement and thereby faced felony charges based on his testimony. Abrams pled guilty in 1991 to two misdemeanors and was sentenced to a year's probation and 100 hours of community service. A year later, former President Bush (Senior) granted Abrams a full pardon. He was one of the more hawkish pro-Israel Jews in the Reagan Administration's State Department.
Marc Grossman
Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs. He was Director General of the Foreign Service and Director of Human Resources at the Department of State. Grossman is one of many of the pro-Israel Jewish officials from the Clinton Administration that Bush has promoted to higher posts.
Richard Haass
Director of Policy Planning at the State Department and Ambassador at large. He is also Director of National Security Programs and Senior Fellow at th