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raycarey · 30-08-2008, 10:13 PM

approx. 18 months ago this woman was mayor of a town of 6,500 people.

The Associated Press: McCain chooses Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin for V.P.

and now she's going to be one heartbeat away from the presidency....she has absolutely no experience in foreign affairs, as of one month ago, had no idea of what the VP position entails.

Begbie · 30-08-2008, 10:16 PM

But who actually picked this person. McCain admits that he hardly knows her having met once at a govorners conference last february. The next contact was a phone conversation where he offered her the position.

Seems to be a case of profiling. McCain is old we need someone young. McCain is a man we need a woman. McCain is soft on abortion we need a pro life bible basher.

Did they run a thousand names through a computer and this on popped out ?

raycarey · 30-08-2008, 10:29 PM

here's an interesting piece of trivia....

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Governors often run for president, but only after many months of prep work on what they might confront in the White House. The last governor chosen for vice president was Spiro Agnew in 1968, and he was the governor of Maryland, which is right over the line from Washington, D.C., not thousands of miles away. Veep candidates with extensive Washington experience like Geraldine Ferraro and Dan Quayle were nonetheless grilled on policy and proved a drag on the ticket when they looked unpresidential.

Alter: Why Sarah Palin Is Likely to Belly-Flop | Newsweek Politics: Conventions | Newsweek.com

CSFFan · 30-08-2008, 10:56 PM

Ok...be gentle please!

I personally think Palin is the perfect choice considering her background. Here's why!

Simple management experience! The only difference between between managing a small town and managing the country is the concept of scale.

She was apparently able to "scale up" her thinking from a small town to a small state. The same concept applies to moving up from a state to a country. Personally, I think she brings something that none of the others have...a simple dose of common sense.

And if she unbuttons that second button on her top, she'll be the focus of the attention of every male in America.

chinthee · 30-08-2008, 10:59 PM

CSF, very good post. Being a leader, and being responsible for people - the same dynamics are involved with leading 10 as leading 100,000. You still have to develop leadership and delegation skills, and the good ones are self evident.

An advocate, a Senator, an MP, a Congressman, though they may be great thinkers and orators - they are not trained leaders of organizations.

Yup.

sabang · 30-08-2008, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by raycarey

and now she's going to be one heartbeat away from the presidency....she has absolutely no experience in foreign affairs

She got her first passport in 2007.

Carnwadrick · 30-08-2008, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by britmaveric

Be honest - you don't need really much experience to be president - you have a legion of advisers that do most of the work for you. So in reality this really has little relevance whether you are talking Obama or Pavin.

If we can go by the associations Obama has cultivated in the past twenty years since he became black I shudder to think who would be his advisors

britmaveric · 31-08-2008, 12:03 AM

Ahh the nutty Rev Wright?

Carnwadrick · 31-08-2008, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by raycarey

and now she's going to be one heartbeat away from the presidency....she has absolutely no experience in foreign affairs,

FFS Ray what flippen experience does Obama have..the only talent that I see is his ability to memorize his speeches..and that condecending way he looks down on his audience, looking at the top of their heads..the guy really believes god put him here to be our leader

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Originally Posted by CSFFan

Simple management experience! The only difference between between managing a small town and managing the country is the concept of scale. She was apparently able to "scale up" her thinking from a small town to a small state. The same concept applies to moving up from a state to a country.

Well said..did you read the link Brit posted on the previous page, I think this an awesome choice by McCain and we are going to see some exciting times over the next two months then for the next 12 years

raycarey · 31-08-2008, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Carnwadrick

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Originally Posted by raycarey

and now she's going to be one heartbeat away from the presidency....she has absolutely no experience in foreign affairs,

FFS Ray what flippen experience does Obama have

just off the top of my head, he's taught constitutional law and he's a member of the senate foreign relations committee.

now while you may not think that is as impressive as announcing the lottery numbers on the alaska local news, i think most would disagree.

britmaveric · 31-08-2008, 01:49 PM

^Obama spent most of his senate time running for president???

Carnwadrick · 31-08-2008, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by raycarey

he's a member of the senate foreign relations committee.

An appointment that he has learned nothing from since he thinks he can sit down with terrorists and their nation supporters like Iran and talk "reason" to them and everybody will hug and peace will fall on all mankind

Norton · 31-08-2008, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Carnwadrick

An appointment that he has learned nothing from since he thinks he can sit down with terrorists and their nation supporters like Iran and talk "reason" to them and everybody will hug and peace will fall on all mankind

Agree. GWB's recent decision to send folks to Iran do the same is a fools errand.

sabang · 31-08-2008, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Carnwadrick

like Iran and talk "reason" to them and everybody will hug and peace will fall on all mankind

Sure, much more sensible to invade them, eg Vietnam/ IndoChine and Uraq.

Those who won't learn from the lessons of history.....

Vote Republican.

Bugs · 31-08-2008, 02:35 PM

On the up side of the Palin pick, the VP debate will probably we watched by more that is typical. I certainly hope Palin does not open with a Stockdalesk – “Who am I, and why am I here?” line.

CSFFan · 31-08-2008, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugs

On the up side of the Palin pick, the VP debate will probably we watched by more that is typical

I agree. I can't wait to see it.

raycarey · 31-08-2008, 04:39 PM

it's so bizarre what has been happening recently in US foreign policy debates....

obama says the US should set a time table for pulling out of iraq....first bush and mccain attack obama's patriotism and judgement, then they eventually come around to his way of thinking.

obama says the US should talk to iran..first bush and mccain attack obama's patriotism and judgement, then they eventually come around to his way of thinking.

pai nai ma · 31-08-2008, 04:56 PM

^ The Mcbushies are in deep doo in terms of the senate and presidential elections and they are belatedly moving to diminish the electoral storm.

Amusing, enjoyable, belated -- but not so bizarre.

(I know I am not your intended audience but i couldnt help but respond

)

raycarey · 31-08-2008, 05:04 PM

i guess what i find bizarre about it is that the rubes on the right who can't even follow what's happening.

bush should just cut out the middle man and make obama sec. of state for the next few months until he takes over in jan.

pai nai ma · 31-08-2008, 05:09 PM

I hope so. But I have been surprised before by the conservative (and often self-centered and ignorant) nature of many americans.

31-08-2008, 04:56 PM	#238 (permalink)
pai nai ma I am in Jail Last Online: 18-12-2008 08:14 PM Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,038	^ The Mcbushies are in deep doo in terms of the senate and presidential elections and they are belatedly moving to diminish the electoral storm. Amusing, enjoyable, belated -- but not so bizarre. (I know I am not your intended audience but i couldnt help but respond ) Last edited by pai nai ma : 31-08-2008 at 05:01 PM.

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30-08-2008, 10:13 PM	#221 (permalink)
raycarey ........ Last Online: Yesterday 11:22 PM Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: deleting posts in issues Posts: 6,674	approx. 18 months ago this woman was mayor of a town of 6,500 people. The Associated Press: McCain chooses Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin for V.P. and now she's going to be one heartbeat away from the presidency....she has absolutely no experience in foreign affairs, as of one month ago, had no idea of what the VP position entails.

30-08-2008, 10:16 PM	#222 (permalink)
Begbie Thailand Travel Forum Last Online: Yesterday 05:27 PM Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Lagrangian Point Posts: 7,310	But who actually picked this person. McCain admits that he hardly knows her having met once at a govorners conference last february. The next contact was a phone conversation where he offered her the position. Seems to be a case of profiling. McCain is old we need someone young. McCain is a man we need a woman. McCain is soft on abortion we need a pro life bible basher. Did they run a thousand names through a computer and this on popped out ?

30-08-2008, 10:56 PM	#224 (permalink)
CSFFan Thailand Expat Last Online: 17-10-2009 11:33 PM Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bangkok Posts: 1,024	Ok...be gentle please! I personally think Palin is the perfect choice considering her background. Here's why! Simple management experience! The only difference between between managing a small town and managing the country is the concept of scale. She was apparently able to "scale up" her thinking from a small town to a small state. The same concept applies to moving up from a state to a country. Personally, I think she brings something that none of the others have...a simple dose of common sense. And if she unbuttons that second button on her top, she'll be the focus of the attention of every male in America.

30-08-2008, 10:59 PM	#225 (permalink)
chinthee Sundance is my bff Last Online: 10-08-2009 09:13 PM Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,028	CSF, very good post. Being a leader, and being responsible for people - the same dynamics are involved with leading 10 as leading 100,000. You still have to develop leadership and delegation skills, and the good ones are self evident. An advocate, a Senator, an MP, a Congressman, though they may be great thinkers and orators - they are not trained leaders of organizations. Yup.

31-08-2008, 12:03 AM	#228 (permalink)
britmaveric nid aur yw popeth melyn Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Pattaya Posts: 3,916	Ahh the nutty Rev Wright?

31-08-2008, 01:49 PM	#231 (permalink)
britmaveric nid aur yw popeth melyn Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Pattaya Posts: 3,916	^Obama spent most of his senate time running for president???

31-08-2008, 02:35 PM	#235 (permalink)
Bugs Elite Member Last Online: 09-05-2009 09:11 PM Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: At home Posts: 1,311	On the up side of the Palin pick, the VP debate will probably we watched by more that is typical. I certainly hope Palin does not open with a Stockdalesk – “Who am I, and why am I here?” line.

31-08-2008, 04:39 PM	#237 (permalink)
raycarey ........ Last Online: Yesterday 11:22 PM Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: deleting posts in issues Posts: 6,674	it's so bizarre what has been happening recently in US foreign policy debates.... obama says the US should set a time table for pulling out of iraq....first bush and mccain attack obama's patriotism and judgement, then they eventually come around to his way of thinking. obama says the US should talk to iran..first bush and mccain attack obama's patriotism and judgement, then they eventually come around to his way of thinking.

31-08-2008, 05:04 PM	#239 (permalink)
raycarey ........ Last Online: Yesterday 11:22 PM Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: deleting posts in issues Posts: 6,674	i guess what i find bizarre about it is that the rubes on the right who can't even follow what's happening. bush should just cut out the middle man and make obama sec. of state for the next few months until he takes over in jan.

31-08-2008, 05:09 PM	#240 (permalink)
pai nai ma I am in Jail Last Online: 18-12-2008 08:14 PM Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,038	I hope so. But I have been surprised before by the conservative (and often self-centered and ignorant) nature of many americans.

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