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View Poll Results: Who will be the next US President?
Obama 33 66.00%
McCain 12 24.00%
Neither 1 2.00%
Honestly don't care 4 8.00%
Voters: 50. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-08-2008, 10:03 AM   #121 (permalink)
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Incidentally, seeing as Obama has been compared to paris, look at this-



Same silly smile . Is there something we are not being told?
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^ He said he inhaled. And snorted.
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I mean, I don't know who is going to win, but I don't remember a campaign with people getting so involved like this one.
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^That's a good point. So many people want a change from what we have now, and I think it's the most critical point in American political history for this.

I'm just surprised Obama isn't leading by more points, and if recent history repeats itself, McCain will be the next President as the Democrats self-destruct yet again.
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Old 07-08-2008, 10:29 PM   #125 (permalink)
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^ Have to admit love to see the democrats melt down again - its good for a laff and this one will make them jump off a building.
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^ Have to admit love to see the democrats melt down again - its good for a laff and this one will make them jump off a building.

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Old 08-08-2008, 01:55 AM   #127 (permalink)
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Demo implosion.
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CBS Poll: Obama Maintains Lead

Heh, not so quick. :-

Most voters are more concerned with domestic issues than foreign policy issues. Fewer than 1 in 10 voters say that the next president should focus on foreign policy issues, while nearly 8 in 10 voters want the next president to focus on domestic issues. Indeed, nearly half the voters want the candidates to address economic problems, including gas prices and jobs. Two-thirds of voters say the economy and gas prices are issues that a president can do a lot about.

The poll found 45 percent of voters supporting Mr. Obama and 39 percent backing Mr. McCain, unchanged from the New York Times/CBS News poll conducted last month. Seven in 10 voters who support a candidate said they had made up their mind, while 3 in 10 said it is still too early to say for sure.

CBS Poll: Obama Maintains Lead - The Caucus - Politics - New York Times Blog

Fickle things these Polls.
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Certainly most of the polls still have Obama in the lead, and many polls are showing about the same lead for Obama as he had last month. On the other hand more and more polls are showing gains by McCain/ losses by Obama, and while before one was hard pressed to find a poll that had McCain in the lead now it is not so hard to come across.
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ATV/Zogby Poll Toss-Up! McCain 42%, Obama 41% as Undecided Voters Increase
Obama loses support among his strongest demographic groups


Poll: Obama support contracts - UPI.com
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WASHINGTON, Aug. 7 (UPI) -- U.S. Sen. Barack Obama's lead over Sen. John McCain fell from an average 6 percentage points in July to 1 point last week, a Gallup Poll indicates.

Still along way to go, and sorry to say it looks like McCain will continue with the negative tack as well. Interestingly enough the Red team negative really got going in August both in ’88 and ’00 and we all know how those turned out.
Hillary Clinton's slur unearthed to hurt Obama | World news | The Guardian

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The Democrats' acrimonious primary battle came back to haunt Hillary Clinton yesterday, a day before she sets off on her first solo campaign swing for Barack Obama, with John McCain using footage of her attacking the Democratic candidate in a new campaign ad.
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Obama on vacation now? So, he's visiting his white grandparents in Hawaii to apologise for mocking them about their nigga talk?
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Yes, good "boy" isn't he.
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^That's a good point. So many people want a change from what we have now, and I think it's the most critical point in American political history for this.

I'm just surprised Obama isn't leading by more points, and if recent history repeats itself, McCain will be the next President as the Democrats self-destruct yet again.
Well, the latest McCain ads really portray BO as he is - an empty suit. Unless something really fucks-up with the McCain campaign from now until November, BO's gonna have to go back to being the most liberal senator in the US Congress...Heh...
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NECK AND NECK: "The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday again shows Barack Obama attracting 44% of the vote while and John McCain earns 43%. When 'leaners' are included, it’s Obama 47% and McCain 46%. With leaners, the candidates have been within one point of each other for eight straight days."

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Why McCain would be a mediocre president

I've been wondering why we haven't been reading more about John McCains mediocre record- especially now the McCain campaign has decided to abandon it's hi-falutin' rhetoric and go down the Karl Rove dirty tricks road. Time to take the gloves off perhaps? I daresay Obama is pondering just such a possibility in Hawaii- and theres no shortage of material. Maybe he's just waiting for the right time, or maybe he genuinely wants to take the high road.

Anyway, heres some of Sen McCains less than stellar resume':-

'Lack of accomplishments

Like the current occupant of the White House, McCain got his first career breaks from the connections and money of his family, not from hard work.
The son and grandson of Navy admirals, he attended Annapolis where he did poorly. Nevertheless, he was commissioned as a pilot, where he performed poorly, crashing three planes before he failed to evade a North Vietnamese missile that destroyed his plane. McCain spent more than five years in a prison camp. [War hero? ]

McCain hasn't accomplished much in the Senate. Even his own campaign doesn't trumpet his successes, probably because the few victories he's had still rankle Republicans.

His campaign finance law failed to significantly reduce the role of money in politics. He failed to get a big tobacco bill through the Senate. He's failed to change the way Congress spends money; his bill to give the president a line-item veto was declared unconstitutional, and the system of pork and earmarks continues unabated. He failed to reform the immigration system.

Shallow

McCain says he doesn't understand the economy. He's demonstrated that he doesn't understand the workings of Social Security, or the political history of the Middle East. He doesn't know who our enemies are. He says he wants to reduce global warming, but then proposes ideas that would stimulate -- not reduce -- demand for fossil fuels.

McCain has done one thing well -- self promotion. Instead of working on legislation or boning up on the issues, he's been on "The Daily Show with Jon Stewart" more than any other guest. He's been on the Sunday talk shows more than any other guest in the past 10 years. He's hosted "Saturday Night Live" and even announced his candidacy in 2007 on "The Late Show with David Letterman."

No Leadership

McCain has frequently taken on near-impossible missions that go against the grain of his party. It's the basis of his reputation as a maverick. But McCain has never been able to bring more than a handful of Republicans along with him on issues such as campaign finance reform or immigration. Democrats on the Hill have accepted McCain's help on some issues, but except for a few exceptions (John Kerry and Joe Lieberman), they've never warmed to him.

To achieve anything as president, McCain would have to win over two hostile parties: The Democrats and the Republicans.

Living in the Sixties

McCain is still fighting the Vietnam War. But he's not fighting the real historic war, which taught us the folly of injecting ourselves into a civil war that was none of our business.

Most of the other high-profile politicians who fought in Vietnam -- Colin Powell, Chuck Hegel, John Kerry, and Jim Webb -- aren't stuck in the past, and they don't view the Iraq War as a chance to get Vietnam right.

No principles

After years of honing a reputation as a guy who'll say the truth regardless of the political consequences, McCain has crashed the Straight Talk Express. On almost every issue where he took a principled stand against the Republican line -- taxes, immigration, oil drilling, the Religious Right -- he's changed his views.

We ought to like politicians who change their mind when the facts change; it shows maturity, judgment and flexibility. But politicians who change their mind to suit the prevailing winds show the opposite.

The bottom line

Successful presidents come from two molds: visionaries, or mechanics. The visionaries -- think Reagan or FDR -- see what others can't and say 'Why not?" to inspire the country. The mechanics -- think LBJ or Eisenhower -- know the ins and outs of government and are able to harness the power of millions of humans to accomplish great things, or at least keep the wheels from coming off.

McCain fits neither style. He's neither a dreamer, nor a detail guy. His major accomplishment, in Vietnam and in the Senate, has been merely to survive.

Just surviving doesn't make you're a hero, or a decent president. America needs to do more than survive the next four years.'

Full Article- Why McCain would be a mediocre president - MarketWatch

My own view is that Mccain would not necessarily be a disastrous President, like Bush. But he would be a do nothing, change nothing, achieve nothing President.

I'd guess this mediocrity aspect of the man will be more in the spotlight after Obama gets back from Hawaii. Another reason Obama will win? I suppose it depends on the appetite for change amongst US voters.

Change we can believe in, or McSame?

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But he would be a do nothing, change nothing, achieve nothing President.
Wow you have just summed up Obama to a T.
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The mettle of any president is determined as much by current events as it is by the character of the man. It's hard to say how history will unfold during the next four years. If a president is forced into relatively few important decisions, it's a skate in the park -- and in the absence of real determinants, he'll be judged on the economy.

If on the other hand, he's forced to make difficult decisions, the true leadership and moral characteristics come into play. I don't think there's any doubt as to which candidate has the experience and knowledge of domestic and world politics to be a good leader. What it's boiling down to is this: is a fresh face more important than an experienced leader?
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The mettle of any president is determined as much by current events as it is by the character of the man. It's hard to say how history will unfold during the next four years. If a president is forced into relatively few important decisions, it's a skate in the park -- and in the absence of real determinants, he'll be judged on the economy.

If on the other hand, he's forced to make difficult decisions, the true leadership and moral characteristics come into play. I don't think there's any doubt as to which candidate has the experience and knowledge of domestic and world politics to be a good leader. What it's boiling down to is this: is a fresh face more important than an experienced leader?
No offense to McCain, but I wouldn't call him a leader.

He has experience in the Senate. Both candidates seem to be able to make good judgments and consult with people, as far as it seems.
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But he would be a do nothing, change nothing, achieve nothing President.
Wow you have just summed up Obama to a T.
Except to add higher taxes and more welfare for inner city folks.

I think both nominees should be given a mock disaster test. Each is allowed his admin team, but nobody knows what the "disaster" will be. Then, boom! The call comes on the red phone that says NYC has been bombed again, or California has suffered a 9 earthquake, or gators have taken over Miami. Then see how they respond. A fun reality show! I bet lots of Americans would watch and make their decision based on each nominee's performance and judgement.
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^^ That's a bold-faced cop out.
This whole election boils down to one point.

1. Do you want something new?

2. Do you want something proven?

In my opinion, it's a fair question. I'm an independent voter who is dissatisfied with the current administration.... I'm not convinced Obama has the world experience to be my president.

I've listened till I'm sick about others' opinions regarding America. They love to harp on about seppos' lack of worldly experience.

Yet they love the swishy, gay, colorful black candidate who has been a state senator for less than five years. . I understand my own country far more than I understand these bizarre America-philes. They're dumb and misinformed.

And at the end of the day, I have one vote, they have none.
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