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| View Poll Results: Who will be the next US President? | |||
| Obama | | 33 | 66.00% |
| McCain | | 12 | 24.00% |
| Neither | | 1 | 2.00% |
| Honestly don't care | | 4 | 8.00% |
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| ^Obama is reciting a Rev. Wright sermon. So I guess over twenty years he heard at least one sermon where the rev condemned "white folks". Is "white folks" deemed derogatory in black-centrist circles? Since white people are ignorant of what goes on in black-centrist circles should whites be offended or should they just go about their business and ignore the hate? I think it would be defined as hateful by any honest politically correct person. Is black-centrist hate acceptable? Is black-centrist hate whipped up in black-centrist churches dangerous or is it ok as long as the leader of the church doesn't call for outright violence? Is Reverend Wright committing hate crimes from the pulpit? I have watched a Reverend Wright sermon. He takes his congregation on a journey. He leads them by his words through a world of persecution and pain. He stirs his followers to anger over injustices. He gets them to shout out. Then he brings it all home with a Christian message of forgiveness and tolerance. We must forgive our trespassers as we would have them to forgive us. Take the high road. Is it ok to bring the pot to a boil if you then turn down the heat so that it is always there simmering but not boiling, though it is ready to boil? Does the fact that white people are not up in arms about Reverend Wright signify that white people are oblivious to the oppression black people face in a white cultured USA? This is the sort of thing Obama speaks about in his first book; blacks can never truly enjoy their lives because they are subject to white culture; it's inescapable. ""And by the time I had dropped my friends off, I had begun to see a new map of the world, one that was frightening in its simplicity, suffocating in its implications. We were always playing on the white man's court, Ray had told me, by the white man's rules. If the principal, or the coach, or a teacher, or Kurt, wanted to spit in your face, he could, because he had the power and you didn't. If he decided not to, if he treated you like a man or came to your defense, it was because he knew that the words you spoke, the clothes you wore, the books you read, your ambitions and desires, were already his. Whatever he decided to do, it was his decision to make, not yours, and because of that fundamental power he held over you, because it preceded and would outlast his individual motives and inclinations, any distinction between good and bad whites held negligible meaning. In fact, you couldn't even be sure that everything you had assumed to be an expression of your black, unfettered self - the humor, the song, the behind-the-back pass - had been freely chosen by you. At best these things were a refuge, at worst, a trap. Following this maddening logic, the only thing you could choose as your own was withdrawal into a smaller and smaller coil of rage, until being black meant only the knowledge of your own powerlessness, of your own defeat. And the final irony: Should you refuse this defeat and lash out at your captors, they would have a name for that too, a name that could cage you just as good. Paranoid. Militant. Violent. Niggar." - Barack Obama Black people aren't sure who they truly are because they don't live in a black dominated culture and that's my fault?
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| Why Obama will win Good article:- Barack Obama will win the presidency by a comfortable margin next Tuesday. It is not 1948 and Barack Obama is not Thomas Dewey. And if John McCain were Harry Truman he would change his tax policy. We have also not seen - and it is not reflected in the polls - the vote-generating machinery that is the Obama grassroots campaign. By every indication, it is the most thorough exercise in overwhelming force devised for a presidential election and its true power will be evident only on election day. Why will Obama win? 1. Change. McCain is being painted as being the third Bush term - and the country has had enough of the second Bush term. The underlying issue is change and competence. In the fiasco that was the aftermath of the invasion of Iraq and Hurricane Katrina, and the economic slowdown of the last two years, the American people began connecting the dots in 2006, delivering control of Congress to the Democrats. And they have continued to connect the dots in 2008 to Wall Street and the economic meltdown. In response to the classic polling question on the health of the country - are we on the right track or headed in the wrong direction? - a record 90 per cent of voters today say America is on the wrong track. And 51 per cent are saying that McCain would represent the same direction as President George Bush, whose approval rating is at a near-all-time low of 23 per cent overall and only 18 per cent on managing the economy. Bush is a millstone around McCain's neck. 2. Assets. Just as in nuclear war you cannot have enough weapons, in US politics you cannot have enough money. To the end of August, Obama had raised $US468 million. McCain had raised $US228 million. And in September Obama raised an additional $US150 million. Obama spent $US100 million on advertising in September and is winning the air wars by out-advertising McCain by a 4:1 margin. Obama has more than 2 million financial donors and has on his database more than 1.5 per cent of American voters - about 3 million people. They will all receive emails and SMS messages to get out and vote in the days leading up to the election. The Republicans have nothing as sophisticated or effective in their arsenal. The Obama turnout machine is also specifically targeting Hispanic voters, who are now breaking 70:25 for Obama. This could prove decisive not only in the west but in the Rust Belt states as well where immigration sentiment has flared - and Hispanics know which party has been less hospitable to them. 3. The economy and leadership. Earlier this year, the election was in fact a referendum on Obama. Who was he? Was he one of "us"? Could we really elect an African-American as president? While there is undoubtedly a race factor, this election is not turning on race. What the presidential debates have done so far is position Obama as the more regarded and capable political leader to deal with the economy and other issues. While McCain is viewed positively on national security, the economy outweighs Iraq in voters' minds by a 6:1 or 7:1 margin in importance. In recent polling, Obama has decisive margins on confidence in handling the economy, addressing the economic crisis, having more enthusiasm among supporters, being better on taxes, better on energy, providing hope for the future and being able to unite the country. Therefore, the economic crisis is driving the desire for change, which in turn is driving a change in perceptions of Obama - so that now the election is a referendum on the economy more than Obama. 4. Iraq is not working for McCain. The American people decided a long time ago that the war was a mistake. They absolutely do not want a dishonourable exit. But they want an exit. And with McCain, there is no exit ramp from a war that is costing $US10 billion a month - billions that are not going to health care and jobs and education. McCain may well be right on the surge - but the success of the surge is hurting McCain. If the surge means that Iraq is more OK, then it is more OK to leave. And Obama is for an orderly leaving. Even on the issue of whether voters have confidence in Obama and McCain to be commander-in-chief, 48 per cent have confidence in Obama and 51 per cent in McCain - hardly a confidence gap at all with the more experienced Republican. Obama is viewed virtually equally in terms of being trusted by voters to handle terrorism and the war in Iraq. 5. The penny has dropped. Cognitive dissonance applies not only in psychology; it also has political significance. Voters sceptical of Obama - over experience or race or trust or however you want to put it - are resolving their issues with Obama. The New York Times this week came across a retired steelworker in Pennsylvania. This is what he said: "I'm no racist, but I'm not crazy about him either. I don't know, maybe 'cause he's black. We was raised and worked with the black, the Serb. It was a regular league of nations. And the economy now, it's terrible. I've got to vote for him, the Democrat, Obama . I can't be stupid." The Wall Street Journal recently talked to a 55-year-old white woman in Indiana - a Republican state that has not voted Democrat since 1964. This is what she said: "I am not 100 per cent crazy about Obama. He kind of scares me. But I think he will do better for the middle class." And elections in America are won and lost in the middle. The Sydney Morning Herald Blogs: White House '08
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| Another good article on why Obama will win,..something I saw on RealClearPolitics site,.a right wing site: http://blogs.chicagotribune.com/news_columnists_ezorn/2008/10/08-reasons-barack-obama-will-win-next-tuesday.html Today I offer 08 reasons why Barack Obama will nevertheless win handily: 1. Obama’s supporters are more energized. Obama draws enormous crowds wherever he goes and has energized young and first-time voters in a way that will surprise pollsters relying on traditional turn-out models. A recent USA Today/Gallup poll found 74 percent of Obama voters saying they are more enthusiastic about voting this time than in previous elections. Only 48 percent of McCain voters said the same. These jazzed Obama supporters don’t see their vote as the weary, defensive choice of the lesser of two evils, but as an exciting chance to create a brighter future. 2. Obama has a superior ground game. In part because Sen. Hillary Clinton challenged him deep into the primary season, Obama is better organized at the neighborhood level than any Democratic presidential candidate in history. His campaign is also making landmark use of technology –-- using e-mail, text messages and social networking sites to keep in touch with supporters and urge them to the polls. 3. Obama has a superior air game. Obama is so flush with cash he’s able to saturate TV and radio in key markets at the end of the campaign with ads that counter McCain’s criticisms of him and launch attacks on McCain. It’s not just the money – which he was able to raise oodles of after opting out of the public financing system--- but the determination to respond rapidly and vehemently inside the space of a single news cycle. 4. McCain has lost his brand Yes, he’s a volatile man running in sensitive times under the banner of troubled party. But he started off with the image of a bi-partisan straight-shooter with a clear, selfless sense of proportion. Yet he’s campaigned like a crank. His scattershot, over-the-top assaults on Obama’s character (or, rather, the character of Obama’s associates) have seemed like an effort to change the subject from important issues. And now that McCain’s finally settled on conservative tax policy as his theme down the stretch, his campaign is so desperate for traction that it’s going schoolyard – channeling Joe McCarthy and calling Obama a socialist, a Marxist and even a communist. 5. Sarah Palin is turning out to be the disasta’ from Alaska. I’m confident historians will rank McCain’s decision to choose a rookie governor from a low-population state to be his running mate as his biggest miscalculation. Palin’s youth, spunkiness and conservative bona fides fired up the Republican base, sure. But her ignorance, on display in early TV interviews, mortified the rest of us, and polls now show her as a distinct drag on the ticket. McCain’s appalling judgment in selecting Palin has been cited by Colin Powell, several high-profile conservative intellectuals and scores of newspaper editorial boards as a reason to support Obama. (Obama leads 231-102 in the endorsement derby) 6. Obama hasn’t lost his cool. Historians will also note the textbook discipline of the Obama campaign, which stuck to a set of fairly simple “change” messages while the McCain campaign kept trying out new themes. This steadiness has been mirrored by Obama’s own equanimity, particularly during the debates in which he looked and sounded far more presidential than the twitchy, simpering McCain. The more people saw of Obama, the less he seemed like the frightening, radical, terrorist sympathizer in McCain’s cartoonish rhetoric. 7. McCain hasn’t been able to fight the Bush headwinds. No matter how many times McCain said “maverick,” he still couldn’t create enough distance from the deeply unpopular president to make the sale to voters hungering for new leadership. 8. Obama’s been lucky Things have been relatively quiet all year on the terror and national security fronts – McCain’s strengths. And the major crisis of the campaign season – the economic meltdown – not only played into one of Obama’s perceived strong suits, it also caused McCain to appear impulsive and indecisive in the face of a sudden challenge. This is not a taunt or a guarantee, but I expect that luck to hold at least through Tuesday night.
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| Obama Gets Praise For His Half-Hour Prime Time TV Slot Washington (ECN) - Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama is receiving a lot of praise for the half-hour prime time TV slot he aired on Wednesday night. Obama spent what came out to be around $4 million on this ad slot, which offered a 30-minute preview into what it would be like if he were president of the United States. He promised a great deal of things during the half-hour, including a rescue package for the middle class. He also stated that he would bring tax relief as well as health care reform to all Americans. He stated that he would have a "government of the people, by the people, for the people." "I will not be a perfect president. But I can promise you this - I will always tell you what I think and where I stand." He also aired many endorsements from top politicians as well as business executives. Obama's wife Michelle and two daughters were also shown, along with his family. Obama came off as a very likable and down to Earth person, and looked very compassionate. eCanadaNow.com - Obama Gets Praise For His Half-Hour Prime Time TV Slot I have to say, the Obama campaign has totally outclassed and outfoxed McCain. No harm done I guess that he has had more money to throw at it too. |
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they ran a magnificent campaign to beat Clinton. they must be fukked from the grass roots upwards. bet they'll all be glad when this is over. | |
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Grassroots. Grassroots. Grassroots. He has many local offices in parts of the country, where Kerry did not in 2004. Also, the themes of the camaign seemed very different. McCain went negative in mid-July. Remember the Britney Spears ad? How stupid. And then the "tax cuts, Bill Ayers, domestic terrorist" (by Palin) several times, and now the "socialist" labels. Pretty sad by McCain.
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| ^ very much so. have a look at this. Quote:
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| The early voting is showing strong leads for Obama. Also, another endorsement from a Neocon: Quote:
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| And another endorsement, this time from Ronald Reagan's former Chief of Staff and National Security Advisor. More reasons, while Obama will win. Can you smell what's cookin'? Quote:
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| why will obama win? because he's an intelligent person who has been able to clearly articulate his vision for the future of america. he's also going to win because republicans have proven they're not fit to govern. |
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| Thailand Travel Forum | ![]() It's hard to believe that just four years ago, some were talking about Barack Obama as a national savior, a secular redeemer, a "light worker." Even more shocking, President Obama lost the nomination of his own party to none other than Hillary Clinton. How did we get here? There are no shortage of recriminatory theories for President Obama's precipitous fall from would-be messiah, to near pariah. Discussions with leaders within the Democratic Party, including prominent former members of the Obama administration, give a kaleidoscopic picture of missed opportunities, wrong turns and embarrassing blunders." Read it all here for it is good...
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