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Boon Mee

Got yerself one a these yet, Taff?

lysander

We used to buy those (made of sable) from Russian merchant seamen in the Baltic. They cost us 8 quid each plus a loan of any cowboy or James Bond movies we had on board for the afternoon.

Boon Mee

Milkman

This could go in the "Sarah Palin" thread. This thread, and her thread, are very closely related. How do you like these apples?

Link & Entire: ABC News: Daily Tracking Poll: Disfavor With Palin Grows; Economy Keeps Boosting Obama

Jet Gorgon

The economy? Hmm. Well the market sure ain't on that band wagon. The higher BO's leads, the more the stock market drops. Not only the rich guys are going down. "Gee, honey, our 401ks are feked!" *sob*

Milkman

The falling US financial markets have nothing to do with McCain or Obama.

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keda

He's in a no-lose situation if he slithers in...economy improves, as is likely, and he gets the credit; if it doesn't, blame Bush. Same with a hasty retreat from Iraq, anything positive he takes a bow, and the rest can be shrugged off to the previous admin.

Jet Gorgon

^ Yep.
I have also been watching Gov Corzine (D-NJ) smurfing his pro Obama crap on Meet the Press, etc. I always knew his name from Goldman, but knew there was something fishy about him. Yep. He was the co-CEO at GS and Hank Paulson was the other co-CEO. Corzine fekked up on a risky deal with LT Cap Mgmt. When he was skiing on Xmas break with his family, Paulson and other execs got him ousted. But, the jilted and embarrassed Corzine made $400 mil when GS went public. Love those Democratic ways! Corzine has also been implicated for giving a half a mil loan to his lover (before his divorce) who was the head of a union (bribe money for his campaign) and has also been in trouble for allowing his motorcades to far exceed speed limits. He also refuses to put his assets in a blind trust.
Hey, if the libbies want to deface Palin, let's show the real goods on BO's folks.

Milkman

If the polling is accurate, the momentum is still with Obama.

Link & Entire: White Support For Obama At Historic Level, Politico: Polls Suggest Democratic Nominee Poised To Win Larger Share Of White Vote Than Any Democrat Since 1976 - CBS News

ChiangMai noon

yet another conservative endorses Obama...

Dispatches from the Culture Wars: Another Conservative Endorses Obama

Boon Mee

BO is simply a charismatic demagogue - and an empty-suited one at that...

Norton

Seems a predictable outcome.

I posted this in the "Why will Obama win" right after he choose Palin as his running mate.

ChiangMai noon

I think a lot has been made of the Mcain duff ups but Obama should be given an enormous amount of credit for the way he has conducted himself throughout this campaign. A true gentleman and one that America should feel proud to have elected president.

Here's to 8 years of something entirely different and a whole lot better than booner and his fellow redneck loons deserve.

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Boon Mee

ChiangMai noon

^
I'm a tool in the majority by the looks of things.

Boon Mee

^OK...you're not only a Tool for the Marxist ideology but an unmitigated Troll to boot!

Milkman

So, Boon:

You think there is Marxism in this campaign.

Have you read books by Marx & Engels in the late 1880s?


Please apply these Marxist label to past voting record and current policies.

Thanks in advance.

Boon Mee

Socialism: A progressive political system that takes the power away from wealth creators and gives it to wealth distributors. Wealth distributors are typically a class of highly trained government bureaucrats who are being watched by a class of political commissars, who, in turn, are being watched by a class of secret police, all of whom are banded together by shared progressive morals. Because progressive morals are relative by definition, a certain measure of absolute propaganda is necessary to encourage collectivism and discourage counter revolution. Since such propaganda is delivered through mass media, arts, and schools, a degree of ideological monopoly, uniformity, and censorship is also required in those fields. The resulting mass enthusiasm creates a vibrant state-subsidized culture, leading to great economic successes and technological breakthroughs, e.g., North Korea...

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Panda

Shifting the wealth of a nation towards the business community including big corporations may certainly provide economic advantages. However it amounts to modern day economic slavery for the poor masses of blue collar workers. Wages go down, life gets tougher for the working class and profits go up for the business class who become the elite ruling class. There's no doubt this system works financially. It worked for the Romans and Egyptians with their workforce of slaves and it worked in pre-civil war USA.

I doubt most working class Americans realize that their standard of living is not on par with many of the more socialist developed democracies. Wages are low in USA for blue collar workers, social infrastructure for the middle class like health care and education are also low by comparison with other developed democracies. But a large, relatitively low paid workforce, combined with low company taxes and a low level of government social infrastructure does give the country the edge in competitiveness on the world market.

Of course all this is relative. USA only has an edge in business while other developed democracies provide an improved standard of living for the blue collar middle class workers.

However, the world is a changing place. Developing nations have caught onto the capitalist philosophy of wealth creation. The once communist China has embraced the capitalist way and with their workforce of hundreds of millions of peasant workers, China is replacing not only USA , but the rest of the western world in production and GDP growth. The American business principle has served China well. There are many millionaire business owners, just as there are many poor peasants slaving in the factories and living in poverty. Social injustice on a more pronounced scale than USA, but basically the same principle.

Where all this exploitation of the working class comes undone is in the process of democracy where the majority working class are able to elect governments who can at least provide better social infrastructure and quality of life.

USA has reached the end of the road as far as their capitalist philosophy of squeezing the poor and giving handouts to the rich goes. No amount of financial assistance to the wealthy business owners is going to enable USA to compete with manufacturing in developing countries like China today. Certainly developed countries like USA still hold their ground in certain industries like high tech etc..
But overall there is a redistribution of word wealth occurring. Its not surprising that USA is surviving at the moment on increasing debt to places like China.

The bottom line is that USA and many other western countries are going to have to take a cut in living standards as manufacturing jobs and export income shifts to developing countries.

The old way of cutting wages (in real terms) and giving financial assistance to business just isn't going to work anymore in the face of competition that can produce the same items for export at a fraction of the cost.

In the meantime, with increasing unemployment and falling export revenue, who's going to pay for the international debt incurred trying to prop up a failing system?
The only way any government can pay off international debt before the interest burden becomes greater than what they can pay for is to either increase export productivity or to raise taxes. Going with the exhausted philosophy of giving more of the taxpayers money to the rich so they can create more jobs is simply a lost cause and buying into more international debt that someone will have to pay back sooner or later.

USAs capitalist philosophy of taking from the poor to give to the rich in anticipation of creating new jobs and export income is a strategy that may have worked in the past, but its a different world out there now and such a plan will only drive the country deeper into debt and failure.

Boon Mee

Bogus numbers again...^

Here's the latest w/link...

In the latest Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby poll, Barack Obama’s lead over John McCain has dropped to 5 points.
Among likely voters:
Obama - 49%
McCain - 44%
Margin of error - 2.9 points