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Old 06-07-2008, 08:18 PM   #21 (permalink)
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At $4 per gallon, a motorist can pay $90 to fill up a Ford Explorer.
Christ almighty.

It cost me 70 quid to brim my old man's C5 when I was back in the UK. That car did 28mpg - he doesn't care because he only ddoes 7000 miles a year these days.
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Old 06-07-2008, 08:42 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Amazingly yanks are sitting on a pile of oil, however unable to drill for it.
Can only blame the whale huggers/tree saver crowd & Nancy Pelosi's bunch for that! Any sensible 'Merkin wants to drill in the ANWAR, off Californa, Florida etc but nooooo...more SF Values at work...
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Old 06-07-2008, 09:34 PM   #23 (permalink)
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An article for those who are interested. It's a quick read:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/06/bu...hp&oref=slogin
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/06/bu...hp&oref=slogin
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but nooooo...more SF Values at work...
Perched up there on Nob Hill driving around their little sissy green cars. Even Arnold has turned against us. Elitists the lot!
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Old 07-07-2008, 03:15 AM   #25 (permalink)
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You will have to click on it to open in another window to view properly. I think DD is being 'kineow' on bandwidth or something...
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Can only blame the whale huggers/tree saver crowd & Nancy Pelosi's bunch for that! Any sensible 'Merkin wants to drill in the ANWAR, off Californa, Florida etc but nooooo...more SF Values at work...
I do despise Pelosi, I'm not a tree hugger. But as a witness to what is going on in the ANWAR area (I spent the better part of a year in AK and visited the protected area after a 3 day background check) I must say they should find other places to drill.
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Old 07-07-2008, 09:31 AM   #27 (permalink)
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I must say they should find other places to drill.
I'm with you but on the fence too, I'm not a tree hugger by a long shot. I spent a couple of weeks floating the Hulahula river. While the area is far from pristine as the natives have been exploiting/trashing the area for thousands of years we can't really trust the oil companies and the fact that the so called "vast arctic plain" isn't nearly as big and vast as they'd lead us to believe.
I'm against it not because of the caribou(in fact caribou thrive around Deadhorse in spite of the oil rigs) but because I hate to see the oil wasted powering cargo 747's full of cheap crap out of China to stock the shelves of local Wallmarts.

I'd say go ahead and drill leaving a small "footprint" but implement some radical conservation practices at the same time such as using small nuclear power stations to replace the diesel power generators in the many villages. Huge amounts of oil are used powering these villages. That and the environmental hazards associated with simply storing the oil in these remote areas should be of concern.

They should expand the development and use of natural gas of which Alaska has huge reserves.
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I think one problemo with local drilling is that the US would weaken its ties with OPEC, letting China and India take over. I also thought one idea was to use up all the other guys' oil first and then rely on local sources when that ran out.
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