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Old 03-04-2008, 04:25 PM   #41 (permalink)
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which month do you think it is?

because my calendar says april. it's seven months until the election.

mccain will probably fall down and break his hip before then.
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Old 03-04-2008, 05:34 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Sure it's April - that's why I said McCain would get my vote in Nov.

BTW - He will still get my vote even with a broken hip. Toss in a heart attack as well and he will still get my vote. Pretty much anything short of a lobotomay and the man still has more gray matter than the "Nut" and the "Boob" combined.

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Old 03-04-2008, 05:58 PM   #43 (permalink)
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man still has more gray matter than the "Nut" and the "Boob"
McCain came 5th from the bottom of his class at Annapolis, a class of around 600. And both his pop and Grandpop were Admirals.
Obama graduated summa cum laude from Harvard Law School, and was the first black editor of the Harvard Law Review.


Then again, I suppose you think Dubya is smart.
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Old 03-04-2008, 06:59 PM   #44 (permalink)
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I am not saying the Duby is a genius – but he can’t be as stupid as many people think; he did end up becoming the POTUS.

The use of the term “gray matter” was a bit of a play on words in regard to John boys age. All of the remaining three are intelligent individuals. Just so happens that neither the “Nut” nor the “Boob” have platforms that I can bring myself to vote for.

That is not to say that I agree 100% with Johnny either, as there are plenty of his positions that I am not behind. But one has to make choices in life, and at this stage in the game in choosing between the three stooges – I chose John.

There is indeed a long way between now and Nov, and I think that things happening between then and now will probably have more of an effect on the final election results than everything that has happened up until now – because of the mentality of the average US voter. But I, as opposed to most US voters, am not making my decision based upon what happened last week, or last month, next week, or next month. But on the platform of each of the candidates – which are unlikely to change between now and Nov.
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Old 03-04-2008, 07:43 PM   #45 (permalink)
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I am not saying the Duby is a genius – but he can’t be as stupid as many people think; he did end up becoming the POTUS.
George W. Bush had many tutors.

His father, George H., flew in economic and foreign policy tutors (e.g. Scowcroft) to tutor GWB.

He had good handlers, good campaign managers (e.g. Rove) and the backing of Big Business, and other powerful interests.

Being smart or not smart doesn't really matter.

GWB is also not very knowledgeable about the world. He also admits he doesn't read books.

One book he read was Natyn Sharansky's book, written by a Zionist Jewish guy who promotes "spreading democracy."
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Old 03-04-2008, 08:06 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Not a major McCain supporter, but he'll certainly have my vote in Nov - best of the lot that is left to vote for IMHO.
Operative statement for this entire forum's threads on the election...
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Old 03-04-2008, 09:58 PM   #47 (permalink)
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The use of the term “gray matter” was a bit of a play on words in regard to John boys age.
hmmmmm....
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Pretty much anything short of a lobotomay and the man still has more gray matter than the "Nut" and the "Boob" combined.
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Old 04-04-2008, 03:48 AM   #48 (permalink)
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It's telling that McCain has had cancer, but his health plan would exclude people like himself for having pre-existing conditions (like, erm, cancer...)

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Election 2008 | Boston Globe Examines McCain's Health Plan [Apr 03, 2008]

Presumptive Republican presidential nominee Sen. John McCain (Ariz.) has said the U.S. must expand health insurance to "people who need it," but critics maintain that lack of regulations on insurers could leave many without affordable coverage, the Boston Globe reports...

The proposal would not mandate that health insurers accept applicants with pre-existing medical conditions, a requirement that McCain has said would "be mandating what the free enterprise system does." According to critics, without such a requirement, millions of residents would not have access to affordable health insurance. Jonathan Gruber, a professor of economics at Massachusetts Institute of Technology, said that the proposal is "fine except for the poor and the sick."

McCain health plan pre-existing - Google News
Surprise, surprise...
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Old 04-04-2008, 04:10 AM   #49 (permalink)
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let's take a look at those scars....

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Old 04-04-2008, 10:42 AM   #50 (permalink)
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The McCain health care plan might not be the best possible option. But I am not in favor of universal coverage for all Americans because I don’t see health care as a right. It is a privilage and as such one needs to work to obtain the privilages in life.

I would agree that something needs to be done to control the spriralling cost of health care but I don’t see universal coverage as the answer to helping to control costs. IMHO the willy-nilly handing out of extra coverage in the 70’s and 80’s is a big part of the reason costs have gotten so far out of hand in the first place.

The way health care coverage has been handled placed insurance companies between the buyer and the seller. As such the buyer became obliviouse to the cost. Because of this buyers no longer factored in cost in determining what kind of care and from what provider they got that care. This lead to many (too many) providers taking advantage of the system and jacking up prices and giving out care above and beyond what was necessary - to maximize their profit. Now we are all paying the price for that seperation of the buyer and the seller in the marketplace.

There is also the extreamly litigious nature of things in the US which has led to exorbinate liability coverage for care givers that also has become a rather major factor in the cost of health care. The dad of one of me best mates from school is a doctor and he left private practive nearly ten years ago because of the cost of his insurace and what that meant to the prices he had to charge customers for their care.
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Old 04-04-2008, 07:50 PM   #51 (permalink)
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speaking of health care, why won't mccain release his medical records? is he hiding something?

on march 8th he said he'd do it in a month...then he changed to april 15th.....and now he's pushed it back to may.

McCain says he'll release medical records soon - Jonathan Martin's Blog - Politico.com
CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive - McCain medical records to be released in May « - Blogs from CNN.com
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Yawn...another non-issue. You gotta find another windmill to tilt at, RC. McCain will probably outlive you - had a look at his 90 + yr. old mother lately? Good genes there...
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Old 05-04-2008, 07:42 AM   #53 (permalink)
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Yawn...another non-issue.
the fact that a 72 year old cancer patient won't release his medical records as promised is a non issue?

but you old folks like to stick together, don't you?
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Old 05-04-2008, 08:28 AM   #54 (permalink)
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^ I thought you didn't allow blogs as sources, Ray, or was that your side kick, Stroller?
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Just some links related to McCain that come up now and again.

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"songbird" McCain does not support troops. He's a traitor. | Ron Paul for President 2008 - Ron Paul Revolution


Viet hookers
LP: Why John McCain must not become Commander in Chief

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John McCain’s Brazilian Sexcapade

Wall Street Journal Brazilian story
Washington Wire - WSJ.com : McCain and the Model


Tried to post a youtube video link but none of them are coming up. I wonder if politicians would try to influence open websites like youtube?

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^ I thought you didn't allow blogs as sources, Ray, or was that your side kick, Stroller?
True to his latte liberal principles, RC will take dirt wherever he can get it. Rather surprised the Huffington Post isn't quoted more often here...
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Gotta assess the merit of each source by yourself, I am afraid, Jet.

That Canuck lass is doing her best to take Georgie's supporting role for you , Boon, well done...
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Gotta assess the merit of each source by yourself, I am afraid, Jet.

That Canuck lass is doing her best to take Georgie's supporting role for you , Boon, well done...
Well, we're outnumbered 'round here.

Don't know why Georgie doesn't post on TD. Something to do with his book stores I guess...
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Gotta assess the merit of each source by yourself, I am afraid, Jet.
555 Only if it conforms with your way of thinking, right, Strolls?
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Alan Greenspan endorses John McCain.

The tide of change is coming...
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