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Old 20-03-2008, 12:31 PM   #121 (permalink)
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it's in the link you provided. i thought you read it? if you have short term memory problems or don't know how to find it, that's your problem.

do you always need someone to hold your hand?

Back up your statements you coward.
you're too much a blockhead to either remember or find a statement in something you claim to have read....and somehow that's my fault?

again, the information you so desperately want is in the link YOU provided.....i'm not here to hold you hand.

Keep ducking the question Ray.

I did not see any reference calling anyone static so I am asking you to put your money where your mouth is and prove your false statement - simple as that.
not ducking a thing bobby. YOU PROVIDED THE LINK. did you even read it? and even if you didn't why can't you simply search for the word "static"? if you had spent less time in your life demonizing people with dark skin you might have learned how to find a word on an internet page.

it's not my reponsibility to hold your hand.
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it's in the link you provided. i thought you read it? if you have short term memory problems or don't know how to find it, that's your problem.

do you always need someone to hold your hand?

Back up your statements you coward.
you're too much a blockhead to either remember or find a statement in something you claim to have read....and somehow that's my fault?

again, the information you so desperately want is in the link YOU provided.....i'm not here to hold you hand.

Keep ducking the question Ray.

I did not see any reference calling anyone static so I am asking you to put your money where your mouth is and prove your false statement - simple as that.
not ducking a thing bobby. YOU PROVIDED THE LINK. did you even read it? and even if you didn't why can't you simply search for the word "static"? if you had spent less time in your life demonizing people with dark skin you might have learned how to find a word on an internet page.

it's not my reponsibility to hold your hand.

I do not want you to hold my hand Ray , just asking you to back up your statement with some proof.

Seems you can't.

Have fun in USA watching the election coverage.
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I do not want you to hold my hand Ray , just asking you to back up your statement with some proof.
well, the hand holding claim is doubtful, but let's move on (or backwards, at this point).....bobby, YOU provided the link, so therefore you provided the proof.

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Seems you can't.
Ahhh but I can bobby boy. and you can too.....if you just knew how to search for a word on an internet page. or god forbid you took the time to read the article in the link YOU posted.

here's a tip dim one....take a look in the 'edit' menu at the top of your screen.


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Old 20-03-2008, 04:32 PM   #124 (permalink)
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Posted: 03/19/200
Obama gave a nice speech, except for everything he said about race. He apparently believes we're not talking enough about race. This is like hearing Britney Spears say we're not talking enough about pop-tarts with substance-abuse problems.

By now, the country has spent more time talking about race than John Kerry has talked about Vietnam, John McCain has talked about being a POW, John Edwards has talked about his dead son, and Al Franken has talked about his USO tours.

But the "post-racial candidate" thinks we need to talk yet more about race. How much more? I had had my fill by around 1974. How long must we all marinate in the angry resentment of black racism.

As an authentic post-racial American, I will not patronize blacks by pretending Obama's pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, is anything other than a raving racist loon. If a white pastor had said what Rev. Wright said -- not about black people, but literally, the exact same things -- I think we'd notice that he's crazier than Ward Churchill and David Duke's love child. (Indeed, both Churchill and the Rev. Wright referred to the attacks of 9/11 as the chickens coming "home to roost.")

Imagine a white pastor saying: "Racism is the American way. Racism is how this country was founded, and how this country is still run. ... We believe in white supremacy and black inferiority. And believe it more than we believe in God."

Imagine a white pastor calling Condoleezza Rice, "Condoskeezza Rice."

Imagine a white pastor saying: "No, no, no, God damn America -- that's in the Bible for killing innocent people! God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human! God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme!"

We treat blacks like children, constantly talking about their temper tantrums right in front of them with airy phrases about black anger. I will not pat blacks on the head and say, "Isn't that cute?" As a post-racial American, I do not believe "the legacy of slavery" gives black people the right to be permanently ill-mannered.

Obama tried to justify Wright's deranged rants by explaining that "legalized discrimination" is the "reality in which Rev. Wright and other African-Americans of his generation grew up." He said that a "lack of economic opportunity among black men, and the shame and frustration that came from not being able to provide for one's family, contributed to the erosion of black families."

That may accurately describe the libretto of "Porgy and Bess," but it has no connection to reality. By Rev. Wright's own account, he was 12 years old and was attending an integrated school in Philadelphia when Brown v. Board of Education was announced, ending "separate but equal" schooling.

Meanwhile, at least since the Supreme Court's decision in University of California v. Bakke in 1978 -- and obviously long before that, or there wouldn't have been a case or controversy for the court to consider -- it has been legal for the government to discriminate against whites on the basis of their race.

Consequently, any white person 30 years old or younger has lived, since the day he was born, in an America where it is legal to discriminate against white people. In many cases it's not just legal, but mandatory, for example, in education, in hiring and in Academy Award nominations.

So for half of Rev. Wright's 66 years, discrimination against blacks was legal -- though he never experienced it personally because it existed in a part of the country where he did not live. For the second half of Wright's life, discrimination against whites was legal throughout the land.

Discrimination has become so openly accepted that -- in a speech meant to tamp down his association with a black racist -- Obama felt perfectly comfortable throwing his white grandmother under the bus. He used her as the white racist counterpart to his black racist "old uncle," Rev. Wright.

First of all, Wright is not Obama's uncle. The only reason we indulge crazy uncles is that everyone understands that people don't choose their relatives the way they choose, for example, their pastors and mentors. No one quarrels with idea that you can't be expected to publicly denounce your blood relatives.

But Wright is not a relative of Obama's at all. Yet Obama cravenly compared Wright's racist invective to his actual grandmother, who "once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe."

Rev. Wright accuses white people of inventing AIDS to kill black men, but Obama's grandmother -- who raised him, cooked his food, tucked him in at night, and paid for his clothes and books and private school -- has expressed the same feelings about passing black men on the street that Jesse Jackson has.

Unlike his "old uncle" -- who is not his uncle -- Obama had no excuses for his grandmother. Obama's grandmother never felt the lash of discrimination! Crazy grandma doesn't get the same pass as the crazy uncle; she's white. Denounce the racist!

Fine. Can we move on now?

No, of course, not. It never ends. To be fair, Obama hinted that we might have one way out: If we elect him president, then maybe, just maybe, we can stop talking about race
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isn't there a rule on this forum about not quoting ann coulter?

there should be.
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hey bobby....figure out how to do it yet?
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hey bobby....figure out how to do it yet?
Yup.

I also figured out you made statement about Obama's speech that you are unable to back up and you keep whining about it.

But keep voraciously trying to defend his racist little pastor and Obama's inability to disown him.


It makes you look very in touch with reality and basically stupid.
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Old 20-03-2008, 05:57 PM   #128 (permalink)
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isn't there a rule on this forum about not quoting ann coulter?

there should be.
Why?

'Cause she makes mince-meat outa you liberal-progressives?
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The fact still remains if any other candidate aligned themselves with a rabid racist like Rev Wright and his recently exposed comments it would be the end of their political career. Double standard because Obama is black and he is being handled with kid gloves.....
Not a "fact", but speculation on your part.
I also find it odd that people concentrate on Wright's words as if he represents Obama in some way?

Oh, and another thing: using the "racist" label here as if it held the same gravity regardless of context has become quite 'fashionable', but sadly indicates a lack of awareness of racial issues, power and privilege.
Again your words are just useless babble.
I am afraid I can not tone it down and make it any shorter to fall within your attention span and comprehension level, tits.

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If a White candidate had a proven close relationship with a Pastor who said something like "AIDS was invented by the white man to control the Black population" - It is a fact that would be the end of his presidential run.
Hopefully it would be, but some White candidates' pastors have come out with equally bizarre stuff without any repercussions.

But it is not the same - keywords: context, history, power, privilege.
Everyone who attended high-school should be familiar with this subject.

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But it is not the same - keywords: context, history, power, privilege.
Everyone who attended high-school should be familiar with this subject.
Don't tell me you're falling into the same trap, Stroll?
The 'entitlement' trap where 'they' are due since 'they' have been 'oppressed'?

It's a crock and you know it - just look at the Vietnamese in the states. Hear any whining outa them? Take a look at their college entrence exam scores or, any other aspect of their lives in America. This victimization and whining on the part of some Blacks is real old and real tired...
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His analogy of disowning Rev. Wright would be like disowning the black community as a whole as pretty much nailed his coffin closed as far as I am concerned.
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But Bobby he wasn't speaking to you.
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if you had taken the time to read the speech or watch it on youtube, you'd see that he mentioned the likes of you and how you're nothing but static.
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quote your reference I provided a link for you.
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it's in the link you provided.
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Back up your statements you coward.
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Keep ducking the question Ray. I did not see any reference calling anyone static so I am asking you to put your money where your mouth is and prove your false statement - simple as that.
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just asking you to back up your statement with some proof. Seems you can't.
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you made statement about Obama's speech that you are unable to back up and you keep whining about it.
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I do not want you to hold my hand Ray
now, now, now. don't get petualant little boy. i'll hold your hand.....



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he wants to unify the country, but if you had taken the time to read the speech or watch it on youtube, you'd see that he mentioned the likes of you and how you're nothing but static.
and here's the line from the speech from the link YOU provided bobby....

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he spoke as if our society was static; as if no progress has been made; as if this country - a country that has made it possible for one of his own members to run for the highest office in the land and build a coalition of white and black; Latino and Asian, rich and poor, young and old -- is still irrevocably bound to a tragic past.
you see bobby, because of your racist ideology, you and your ilk are "irrevocably bound to a tragic past"
you are static. you're unable to move forward because of your fear and ignorance.
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isn't there a rule on this hatforum about not quoting ann coulter?

there should be.
Why?

'Cause she makes mince-meat outa you liberal-progressives?
No, because she's a partisan satirist who makes your wingnut blogs look reasonable.

It seems some right-wing posters cannot form and express their own opinion, but prefer to copy/paste that of others without comment.
Why should anyone make the effort to rebut it?
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It's a crock and you know it - just look at the Vietnamese in the states. Hear any whining outa them? Take a look at their college entrence exam scores or, any other aspect of their lives in America. This victimization and whining on the part of some Blacks is real old and real tired...
Oh, I didn't know the Vietnamese are decendents of slaves who had been brought into the US?
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It's a crock and you know it - just look at the Vietnamese in the states. Hear any whining outa them? Take a look at their college entrence exam scores or, any other aspect of their lives in America. This victimization and whining on the part of some Blacks is real old and real tired...
Oh, I didn't know the Vietnamese are decendents of slaves who had been brought into the US?
Valid point but as the saying goes: "Get over it"!

Obama's wife is playing the 'victimization' card to the hilt along with the usual nefarious characters like Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton etc. Believe it when Sept/Oct and early November roll around and those tapes of that 'Rev' Wright are trotted out again, the Whites sitting on the fence will no doubt swing to McCain.
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the Whites sitting on the fence will no doubt swing to McCain.
doubtful. but that's also assuming he hasn't had a stroke or fallen of the stage like that other old timer bob dole....

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Obama's wife is playing the 'victimization' card to the hilt along with the usual nefarious characters like Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton etc. Believe it when Sept/Oct and early November roll around and those tapes of that 'Rev' Wright are trotted out again, the Whites sitting on the fence will no doubt swing to McCain.
I don't know enough about her to comment, but let's put it this way: mistakes are made on both sides, and the resulting animousity and bickering are a sad thing to observe.
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Quoting an invented quote by an unknown author - that's quality, he!
It's pretty good tho, you gotta admit!
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and here's the line from the speech from the link YOU provided bobby....
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he spoke as if our society was static; as if no progress has been made;
The context in what it was used neither refers to me or Boon Mee as you stated in your post.

Read the quote again and see if your small brain can figure out who "he" is.

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you see bobby, because of your racist ideology, you and your ilk are "irrevocably bound to a tragic past"
The only racist ideology was spewed by Rev Wright as per the OP, but you're just to ignorant to acknowledge that


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you are static. you're unable to move forward because of your fear and ignorance.
The only thing in this thread I fear is your ignorance it is so blatantly obvious.
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