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Old 17-03-2008, 07:10 AM   #1 (permalink)
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^ The peoples vote will decide that.

Personally, I think you're paying rather short shrift to a summa cum laude Harvard grad. Then again, he is a Dem.
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Old 17-03-2008, 09:09 AM   #2 (permalink)
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And there I was hoping you'd have enough brainpower to realise you weren't addressing my points before after I questioned your 'argument', or that perhaps you'd have something other than the same lame insult to contribute?

Oh well, tits another moronic douchebag...
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Old 17-03-2008, 03:30 PM   #3 (permalink)
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And there I was hoping you'd have enough brainpower to realise you weren't addressing my points before after I questioned your 'argument', or that perhaps you'd have something other than the same lame insult to contribute?

Oh well, tits another moronic douchebag...
There is no argument , maybe you could realize that in between nodding off.
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Old 18-03-2008, 06:20 AM   #4 (permalink)
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So Obama's preacher is just an old cranky uncle in the corner that says strange stuff, eh?

Seventy-three percent (73%) of voters say that Wright’s comments are racially divisive. That opinion is held by 77% of White voters and 58% of African-American voters.

Most voters, 56%, said Wright’s comments made them less likely to vote for Obama. That figure includes 44% of Democrats. Just 11% of voters say they are more likely to vote for Obama because of Wright’s comments.

However, among African-Americans, 29% said Wright’s comments made them more likely to support Obama. Just 18% said the opposite while 50% said Wright’s comments would have no impact.


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If there are 23% of whites who think that Wright's words are not racially divisive, we're fucked...
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Old 18-03-2008, 09:35 AM   #5 (permalink)
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^ Thanks for the rasmussen poll, Boon.

I don't see the racial aspect of the youtube video that I saw. We've heard this rhetoric before from blacks in the US.

But yeah, it will cause some whites on the fence to shift, perhaps. But with Obama in the delegate lead, do Hillary have a chance at being an alternative, or will it be McCain? I have no idea at this point, and there is 4.5 months to the convention and 7.5 months to the election.
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Old 18-03-2008, 11:12 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Awesome debate but the sad truth is if Obama wins the White House someone will shoot him!
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Old 18-03-2008, 11:22 AM   #7 (permalink)
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But yeah, it will cause some whites on the fence to shift, perhaps. But with Obama in the delegate lead, do Hillary have a chance at being an alternative, or will it be McCain? I have no idea at this point, and there is 4.5 months to the convention and 7.5 months to the election.
AW YES, but you seem to have forgotten the new and uncontrolled "Super delegates" who can do as they please.

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Awesome debate but the sad truth is if Obama wins the White House someone will shoot him!
Yea, and I think that you are correct in that assumption.
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Old 18-03-2008, 02:22 PM   #8 (permalink)
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But yeah, it will cause some whites on the fence to shift, perhaps. But with Obama in the delegate lead, do Hillary have a chance at being an alternative, or will it be McCain? I have no idea at this point, and there is 4.5 months to the convention and 7.5 months to the election.
AW YES, but you seem to have forgotten the new and uncontrolled "Super delegates" who can do as they please.
I am assuming, perhaps incorrectly that they will follow the voters in the districts and precincts.

Otherwise there will be a major problem and fraction in the party.
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Old 18-03-2008, 03:20 PM   #9 (permalink)
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^ Nope, they say that they can do as they please and do not have to go the old route, seems a way to get around the caucuses.
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Old 18-03-2008, 03:22 PM   #10 (permalink)
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^ Nope, they say that they can do as they please and do not have to go the old route, seems a way to get around the caucuses.
True.

They can cast a delegate for whoever they want at the convention.

It's like a backroom deal. I see division, though.
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Old 18-03-2008, 03:40 PM   #11 (permalink)
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well then thats good, they are fucked up anyway, silly assholes, and it don't make a fiddlers fuck who get elected anyway, you are fucked by a Lawyer/poiltician either way you still got a liar and a crook for a prez.

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It's like a backroom deal. I see division, though.
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Old 18-03-2008, 04:11 PM   #12 (permalink)
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"Democracy", eh?
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"Democracy", eh?
Well, it's demonstrably better than the dreaded Socialism, eh?
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"Democracy", eh?
Well, it's demonstrably better than the dreaded Socialism, eh?
The socialism and welfare in the USA go to the corporations and the military, and the Military-Industrial Complex.
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Well, be that as it may.

I really don't have a dog in this fight as I've always thought the when Gen. Kraingsak was running the show in LOS, things ran pretty smooth...
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Old 18-03-2008, 06:20 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Venezuela is a democracy, the US isn't.
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the dreaded Socialism
and the BSC bailout is an example of capitalism? heh
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and the BSC bailout is an example of capitalism?
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I really don't have a dog in this fight
yet another pathetically transparent dodge by boon mee.
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The socialism and welfare in the USA go to the corporations and the military, and the Military-Industrial Complex.
And they're very grateful -- (you post deleting mod.) How else does the US expect to support its fantastic and brave warriors?

My post is no more ignorant and inflamatory than the one I quoted. If it stays, so too should this.

If only some are allowed to post crap, call it out.
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The socialism and welfare in the USA go to the corporations and the military, and the Military-Industrial Complex.
And they're very grateful -- (you post deleting mod.) How else does the US expect to support its fantastic and brave warriors?

My post is no more ignorant and inflamatory than the one I quoted. If it stays, so too should this.

If only some are allowed to post crap, call it out.
I'll answer to your comments here. I think it's fair for you to question.

Many personal attacks and insults have been removed by me and other mods.

I am careful NOT to selectively delete yours. But some of your posts, and Ray's were sent to the bin. Most of the removed posts - I just counted - are NOT yours.

Many threads, even the "how old are you?" thread ended being calling people names.

Many threads have been turned into playground insults and a few posters (not me or Ray) have reported the posts.

You can trust me.

Many posts have turned threads into garbage.
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