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Jet Gorgon · 17-03-2008, 07:27 AM

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I saw Desmond Tutu give a speech in Tokyo many years ago. Basically, he said all whites are evil.

nonsense. i'm calling bullshit on this one.

i'm sure your own racist ideology and agenda wanted to hear that, but i have absolutely no doubt that he didn't say anything of the kind....even taking into account the very slippery "basically".

I was there and you weren't. It was the first time I heard racist remarks and it shocked me. Guess Tutu figured the Jpn audience would side with him against the evil Westerners, remembering the A-bombs and all. Unfortunately, the audience response was tepid at best as he knew not that the Jpn follow haragei. Go look that up, Ray.

BobbyTits · 17-03-2008, 08:47 AM

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The "nigga" has been a member of the church for 20 years and is now claiming ignorant of ever hearing any comments such as these from his friend/pastor ?

Not sure why you quoted my words to say this as if it addresses anything I posted? And just in case this diversion doesn't work, just add a personal insult, to give your so-called argument more weight, eh?

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Wake Up or go and shoot some more heroin.

So called argument ?

Not a very bright junkie are you .........

stroller · 17-03-2008, 09:09 AM

And there I was hoping you'd have enough brainpower to realise you weren't addressing my points before after I questioned your 'argument', or that perhaps you'd have something other than the same lame insult to contribute?

Oh well, tits another moronic douchebag...

BobbyTits · 17-03-2008, 03:30 PM

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And there I was hoping you'd have enough brainpower to realise you weren't addressing my points before after I questioned your 'argument', or that perhaps you'd have something other than the same lame insult to contribute?

Oh well, tits another moronic douchebag...

There is no argument , maybe you could realize that in between nodding off.

Boon Mee · 18-03-2008, 06:20 AM

So Obama's preacher is just an old cranky uncle in the corner that says strange stuff, eh?

Seventy-three percent (73%) of voters say that Wright’s comments are racially divisive. That opinion is held by 77% of White voters and 58% of African-American voters.

Most voters, 56%, said Wright’s comments made them less likely to vote for Obama. That figure includes 44% of Democrats. Just 11% of voters say they are more likely to vote for Obama because of Wright’s comments.

However, among African-Americans, 29% said Wright’s comments made them more likely to support Obama. Just 18% said the opposite while 50% said Wright’s comments would have no impact.

Rasmussen Reports™: The most comprehensive public opinion coverage ever provided for a presidential election.

If there are 23% of whites who think that Wright's words are not racially divisive, we're fucked...

Milkman · 18-03-2008, 09:35 AM

^ Thanks for the rasmussen poll, Boon.

I don't see the racial aspect of the youtube video that I saw. We've heard this rhetoric before from blacks in the US.

But yeah, it will cause some whites on the fence to shift, perhaps. But with Obama in the delegate lead, do Hillary have a chance at being an alternative, or will it be McCain? I have no idea at this point, and there is 4.5 months to the convention and 7.5 months to the election.

Carnwadrick · 18-03-2008, 11:12 AM

Awesome debate but the sad truth is if Obama wins the White House someone will shoot him!

blackgang · 18-03-2008, 11:22 AM

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But yeah, it will cause some whites on the fence to shift, perhaps. But with Obama in the delegate lead, do Hillary have a chance at being an alternative, or will it be McCain? I have no idea at this point, and there is 4.5 months to the convention and 7.5 months to the election.

AW YES, but you seem to have forgotten the new and uncontrolled "Super delegates" who can do as they please.

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Awesome debate but the sad truth is if Obama wins the White House someone will shoot him!

Yea, and I think that you are correct in that assumption.

Milkman · 18-03-2008, 02:22 PM

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But yeah, it will cause some whites on the fence to shift, perhaps. But with Obama in the delegate lead, do Hillary have a chance at being an alternative, or will it be McCain? I have no idea at this point, and there is 4.5 months to the convention and 7.5 months to the election.

AW YES, but you seem to have forgotten the new and uncontrolled "Super delegates" who can do as they please.

I am assuming, perhaps incorrectly that they will follow the voters in the districts and precincts.

Otherwise there will be a major problem and fraction in the party.

blackgang · 18-03-2008, 03:20 PM

^ Nope, they say that they can do as they please and do not have to go the old route, seems a way to get around the caucuses.

Milkman · 18-03-2008, 03:22 PM

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^ Nope, they say that they can do as they please and do not have to go the old route, seems a way to get around the caucuses.

True.

They can cast a delegate for whoever they want at the convention.

It's like a backroom deal. I see division, though.

blackgang · 18-03-2008, 03:40 PM

well then thats good, they are fucked up anyway, silly assholes, and it don't make a fiddlers fuck who get elected anyway, you are fucked by a Lawyer/poiltician either way you still got a liar and a crook for a prez.

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It's like a backroom deal. I see division, though.

stroller · 18-03-2008, 04:11 PM

"Democracy", eh?

Boon Mee · 18-03-2008, 05:52 PM

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"Democracy", eh?

Well, it's demonstrably better than the dreaded Socialism, eh?

stroller · 18-03-2008, 06:20 PM

Venezuela is a democracy, the US isn't.

raycarey · 18-03-2008, 06:33 PM

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the dreaded Socialism

and the BSC bailout is an example of capitalism? heh

Milkman · 18-03-2008, 09:17 PM

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"Democracy", eh?

Well, it's demonstrably better than the dreaded Socialism, eh?

The socialism and welfare in the USA go to the corporations and the military, and the Military-Industrial Complex.

Boon Mee · 18-03-2008, 09:49 PM

Well, be that as it may.

I really don't have a dog in this fight as I've always thought the when Gen. Kraingsak was running the show in LOS, things ran pretty smooth...

raycarey · 18-03-2008, 09:52 PM

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Well, it's demonstrably better than the dreaded Socialism,

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and the BSC bailout is an example of capitalism?

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The socialism and welfare in the USA go to the corporations and the military, and the Military-Industrial Complex.

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I really don't have a dog in this fight

yet another pathetically transparent dodge by boon mee.

18-03-2008, 06:20 AM	#65 (permalink)
Boon Mee Senior Member Last Online: Today 08:59 PM Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 9,748	So Obama's preacher is just an old cranky uncle in the corner that says strange stuff, eh? Seventy-three percent (73%) of voters say that Wright’s comments are racially divisive. That opinion is held by 77% of White voters and 58% of African-American voters. Most voters, 56%, said Wright’s comments made them less likely to vote for Obama. That figure includes 44% of Democrats. Just 11% of voters say they are more likely to vote for Obama because of Wright’s comments. However, among African-Americans, 29% said Wright’s comments made them more likely to support Obama. Just 18% said the opposite while 50% said Wright’s comments would have no impact. Rasmussen Reports™: The most comprehensive public opinion coverage ever provided for a presidential election. If there are 23% of whites who think that Wright's words are not racially divisive, we're fucked... __________________ ผมเป็นคนบ้านนอก

18-03-2008, 09:35 AM	#66 (permalink)
Milkman Gone Off Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: shelf Posts: 9,390	^ Thanks for the rasmussen poll, Boon. I don't see the racial aspect of the youtube video that I saw. We've heard this rhetoric before from blacks in the US. But yeah, it will cause some whites on the fence to shift, perhaps. But with Obama in the delegate lead, do Hillary have a chance at being an alternative, or will it be McCain? I have no idea at this point, and there is 4.5 months to the convention and 7.5 months to the election. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. _____________

17-03-2008, 09:09 AM	#63 (permalink)
stroller Kraut Last Online: 01-07-2008 11:03 AM Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: under the headphones Posts: 17,181	And there I was hoping you'd have enough brainpower to realise you weren't addressing my points before after I questioned your 'argument', or that perhaps you'd have something other than the same lame insult to contribute? Oh well, tits another moronic douchebag...

18-03-2008, 11:12 AM	#67 (permalink)
Carnwadrick Ratchaburi Last Online: Today 06:23 AM Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Dark side of paradise Posts: 482	Awesome debate but the sad truth is if Obama wins the White House someone will shoot him!

18-03-2008, 03:20 PM	#70 (permalink)
blackgang Senior Member Last Online: Today 09:41 PM Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Chiang Mai/San Sai Posts: 6,863	^ Nope, they say that they can do as they please and do not have to go the old route, seems a way to get around the caucuses.

18-03-2008, 04:11 PM	#73 (permalink)
stroller Kraut Last Online: 01-07-2008 11:03 AM Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: under the headphones Posts: 17,181	"Democracy", eh?

18-03-2008, 06:20 PM	#75 (permalink)
stroller Kraut Last Online: 01-07-2008 11:03 AM Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: under the headphones Posts: 17,181	Venezuela is a democracy, the US isn't.

18-03-2008, 09:49 PM	#78 (permalink)
Boon Mee Senior Member Last Online: Today 08:59 PM Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 9,748	Well, be that as it may. I really don't have a dog in this fight as I've always thought the when Gen. Kraingsak was running the show in LOS, things ran pretty smooth...