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Milkman

I am pretty sure that New York state is an At-will employment state meaning and employee can be fired without notice, and an employee can quit without notice. Nobody was hurt in this. This reminds of the H1-B visa that brings foreigners to the U.S. to work. Companies have the control, and they can definitely abuse it.

Entire: Nurses who quit face criminal charges / They are accused of endangering lives of terminally ill kids

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Jet Gorgon

? Caring for terminally ill children is demeaning?
Emptying bedpans, cleaning up sick and other rather unpleasant tasks are all part of a nurse's job. I would like to hear the details. Surely their US work was better and higher paying than what they got in the Phils?

blackgang

God Damn it jet, You know full well that most do not come to the USA to do manual labor or demeaning work, which is any work, but do come to the land of cream and honey for just that, welfare, free medical and cream and honey.

Texpat

Guess what boys and girls, there are a whole bunch of jobs where it's illegal to QUIT on the spot.

Prison Guards, Air Traffic Controllers, some policemen, firemen, public safety officials, obviously some health care workers, commercial pilots ...

and, you'll love this one MM, servicemen of all flavors.

Jet Gorgon

^ hehe. I have one of those as well. My boss is called Jet the Alter Ego -- you quit you die. Didn't Reagan impose that law on air traff staff? Fek, I think our nurses can strike.

^^ No, really? Huh. I just read an ad in our classifieds for "instant immigrant housing -- steel construction" (hey, this is Canada, 555). I hear Hootad building up steam to defend the Paki farmers who bring in Mexican and even Peruvian workers to pick blueberries and live in these shanties for about $9 an hour minus housing, transport, etc). Last year, I think the tree huggers were up in arms that these workers got no free healthcare.

Milkman

This is not in the article. There were notes on pay and schedule and assignment disputes.

Several employees at one particular hospital. I'd like to know their visa statues. I smell a rat. Not on the employees end, but on the hospital/employer end.

Milkman

I am aware, sir.

This case piques my interests because of their nationality and I'm interested in knowing more details and their visa statues. (H1-b?)

blackgang

From wilki, check goggle lots of info

The H-1B is a non-immigrant visa category in the United States under the Immigration & Nationality Act, section 101(a)(15)(H). It allows U.S. employers to employ foreign guest workers employed in specialty occupation and as fashion models. The regulations define a “specialty occupation” as requiring theoretical and practical application of a body of highly specialized knowledge in a field of human endeavor including, but not limited to, architecture, engineering, mathematics, physical sciences, social sciences, medicine and health, education, law, accounting, business specialties, theology, and the arts, and requiring the attainment of a bachelor’s degree or its equivalent as a minimum. Likewise, the foreign worker must possess at least a bachelor’s degree or its equivalent and state licensure, if required to practice in that field. H-1B work-authorization is strictly limited to employment by the sponsoring employer

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Boon Mee

^
So does that mean Aunti can't get an H1-B?

blackgang

Jesus christ yes, they got enough trouble with Obama, don't need no more half assed lawyers.

Jet Gorgon

^ tee hee. I thought Ant said ages ago that he was not a lawyer but worked in the legal biz.

I wonder if I can live there? I rang the IRS yesterday about whether I must pay US tax as I work for a NY company. Mr Ross (employee # 01xxx?) passed me on to Mr Jarvis (empl # xxx). Anyway, Mr Jarvis decided that as I do not reside in the US and am thus deemed a non-resident alien ( I hate being an alien) that I do not have to pay. Canada gets all my tax $. Yuk.
I'll have to call US immigration and see what they say. Could be tricky as I am self-employed.
OK, who wants to marry me?

blackgang

well we can talk about that once you have a nice place to live on Orcas, I don't want to live on Johnnys tug forever.
Plus that them fuking otters shit on the ends of the docks..

After labor day it is easy to rent a summer home when the owners leave as they want a house setter of sorts, but you can find some nice year round stuff too.

Zavier38

Not untypical of the profession in my experience.

15 years ago was looking after a terminally ill friend at home in London. As I was out at work in the day so I arranged an agency nurse at over £150 a day (in 1991!!)to come in. When she arrived I asked her to administer the IV traetments through the Hickman line (i'd been trained to do this in 10 minutes in out patients). She couldn't/ wouldn't do it! I explained to her where the food was in the fridge to prepare his lunch. She couldn't / wouldn't do that either. Ended up getting a travelling hippy guy in from a classified ad in Time Out. Lived in and took care of the "day shift" for me for board and £150/month. Great cook and he learnt to do the IVs too.

On a related issue in the UK.......A dentist friend in the UK can no longer afford to continue with his NHS contract as to do so means operating at a loss on each patient, the NHS having unilaterally varied the terms of the contract several times in the last couple of years. His objection to continuing with NHS work is that to do so and break even or, god forbid, make a living, means compromising the level of care he's delivering to patients. He's not prepared to do that.

He cannot walk away though. He will lose his BDC licence if he dis-continues traeting existing patients. He's therefore obliged, on withdrawing from the NHS, to continue treating all patients currently undergoing a course of treatment FREE of CHARGE.

Put the filipinas on the first slow boat back to Manila!

Hootad Binky

Well, how do you feel about it? Do you sympathize with the "Paki" farmers trying to run a business or for labourers not getting healthcare? Because these are jobs that Canadian citizens won't do.

As for the Filipina nurses, if they signed a contract and are not citizens, then they are probably bound to the conditions of that contract, if the contract itself is legal according to US law.

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blackgang

Are you sure that Canadians will not do that work, or will not do it as cheap as the wet backs..

When I was young we worked on ranches putting up the hay and in the spring before ranch work started we picked strawberries and in the fall after ranch work ended on weekends when not in school we picked up spuds behind the diggers, and the closest mexican was 1000 miles south on the other side of the border.
When I lived in Calif as a kid we always cut grapes and seen no mex in the fields then, but the grapes made it to the winerys and the tomatoes that were picked by US and mex labor did make it to the cannerys.
But they did pay a decent wage too, then the mex took over because they would do it cheaper and an American will not do it, but where they will pay a decent wage there is still people that were called "fruit tramps" that do not camp under a tarp tied to the side of an old Packard or Nash anymore, but move around in new pickups and tow 35 or 40 foot travel trailers to the camp grounds furnished by the Apple and pear growers and then winter in the south with the true retired snow birds all winter.

Jet Gorgon

^ True, BG.
^^ Why won't Canucks do these jobs? Gotta work too hard? Easier to collect welfare, I suppose. Canadians are spoiled brats -- no training but not my fault or they go into trades to make inflated union wages. White Canuckies gave up their farms coz they couldn't make money; the East Indians took over. Fine. Get cheap immigrant labour. Fine. The immis make more up here in an hour than they do in a day in their home countries. Fine. But, you want to work in Canada and immigrate? Speak bladdy English or French and don't expect a hand-out for being an economic refugee, coz that's what most of them are.
If you lost your job and couldn't get one that was up to your "standards" Hootie, would you accept a min wage job or go on welfare?

Hootad Binky

Yes, there's a labour shortage right now in the Lower mainland, unemployment is at record lows, and these are not illegal immigrants but guest workers and landed immigrants.
I've never been unemployed. If I lost my job I imagine I would go on Employment Insurance while looking for another one, but I've never been without work or on EI.

Jet Gorgon

^ I never said they were "illegal" immigrants. You are right, most summer labour are guests workers, hence the bouhaha by the dogoodies over their bladdy healthcare that we, the taxpayers, will fund.
Hey, Hoots, did you see the fed budget? $5,000 taxfree banking and the best for us travellers -- a 10-year passport (but not til 2011) instead of that stupid five-year jobbie.

Hootad Binky

You can save up to $5,000 tax free, apparently (or something).

A lot of the trades, especially reno work, is under the table and not reported as taxable income.

Vancouver is so expensive to live no wonder there's a shortage of labour.