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Old 18-02-2008, 10:04 PM   #21 (permalink)
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And Ray, I'm sure you're willing to pay that increase in taxes from your current 15% of earnings to 17%.
actually i think the taxes on dividends and capital gains should be significantly higher than they are currently.

of course that means less profit for me, but i recognize my obligations as a member of society.

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and once they're done with that, it can move onto paying reparations to the descendants of the slaves.
It's another topic, but this will never happen.

1. It'd be too expensive.

2. Who gets money? How do we decide? How many generations should we go back.

Wealth usually only spans 3 generations, according to an Old Chinese proverb.
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^^^And Ray, I'm sure you're willing to pay that increase in taxes from your current 15% of earnings to 17%.

You man you. It's substantial taxpayers like you that make this all possible.
You only pay 15%? Fek, it's about 42% for me in Canada. WTF?
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Old 24-02-2008, 09:40 PM   #24 (permalink)
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You only pay 15%? Fek, it's about 42% for me in Canada. WTF?
Yea, Jet Baby, but look at the free health ins. you get.,,Didn't know about that?? ask Hotad Blinky, he will explain it to you.

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Originally Posted by raycarey and once they're done with that, it can move onto paying reparations to the descendants of the slaves.
How do you figure out who was an actual descendant, who came here from Brazil,Puerto Rica or the Caribbean islands or directly from the old country.

Just because they be a darkie don't always mean that they was a slave of your grandpappys.
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Old 25-02-2008, 05:59 PM   #25 (permalink)
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You only pay 15%? Fek, it's about 42% for me in Canada. WTF?
Yea, Jet Baby, but look at the free health ins. you get.,,Didn't know about that?? ask Hotad Blinky, he will explain it to you.
OH, you mean where I have to wait 12 hours in an emergency ward coz there's only one doc there? Or wait six months for an MRI? (talking about my sis, not me). How bout I pay my own private health insurance and lower my fekin tax rate coz I'm sick of paying for welfare bums? And I have to pay $54 a month for my FREE health care in Canada anyway. $54 is free? FO.
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^ Now Now Darlin, just repeating what I have heard on here, I never paid no attention to that shit when I was driving back abd forth thru there, but by living close to the southern border I did see a lot of em coming across and staying a day in camp grounds and then loading a travel trailer with stuff from the stores and going back with 75 cent cigs to a $5 a pack country.
OH and there is a guy who wanted that av back up, so I humored him and put it up, but you know them krauts is weird.
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Old 25-02-2008, 11:00 PM   #27 (permalink)
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^ I know, TexP loves it, too.
Hey, I cannae even take an apple across the dam 49th parallel. My neighbour had to ditch a case of dog food at US customs coz it contained beef, too. Pretty titty for tatty these days. I should move to Washington State. I better check the tax rates. Just to PO Hootad, I'll keep my Canadian medicare card.
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How do you figure out who was an actual descendant, who came here from Brazil,Puerto Rica or the Caribbean islands or directly from the old country.

Just because they be a darkie don't always mean that they was a slave of your grandpappys.
I know, BG. That's what I asked raycarey above.
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I should move to Washington State. I better check the tax rates. Just to PO Hootad, I'll keep my Canadian medicare card.
Move out to ORCAS IS. good living, good wages, and if you need to go to a canadian med facility, grab the outbound ferry to Van. Is. and get off the inbound at ORCAS on its way back.
I have lived on Orcas a few times mostly for jobs, I like it better than San Juan Is. not so many people.
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^ I know, TexP loves it, too.
Hey, I cannae even take an apple across the dam 49th parallel. My neighbour had to ditch a case of dog food at US customs coz it contained beef, too. Pretty titty for tatty these days. I should move to Washington State. I better check the tax rates.
I am from Washington state, Jet. Feel free to ask away.

As for tax rates (I only know it as a US citizen working as an employee on a W-2 tax form), there is no state income tax. There is a sales tax on everything (except food) that is 8.5% or something. It's a rare way to collect revenue, but I personally like it.
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Thanks, BG and MM. I will check out the Orcas. I also adore the Olympic Peninsula. No state tax? Wow. Sales tax 8.5%? Not bad -- we pay 6% GST (federal) and 7% PST (prov.) in Vancouver, so 13% sales tax on all but essentials, meds and kids stuff, I think (get this, if, for example, I buy one to five kaiser rolls, I have to pay sales tax, but if I buy six or more, there's none). Time to start a new thread?
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one of the ones I was married to was with me once when I went up there to run a pile driver derrick barge and do some welding for a friend who was in business,, she went to work at Templins super market and in her days off she worked as a waitress at Rosario's resort/hotel,, made $50 a day in tips and on sunday at the champagne brunch all she did was pour wine and coffee and make $200 side money.
lots of work from memorial day to labor day and then the island shuts down.
But lots of folks and students come for summer jobs and the locals have steady work anyway, so it is a cool place to live and less thievery than any place I have lived since I was a kid.
only way off the island is by ferry and they might find what you stole before the boat comes I think keep folks honest.
I know some folks out there so give me a holler if ya need an intro.
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I've always thought that the US`holiday of Thanksgiving is weird.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but, isn't Thanksgiving meant to celebrate the getting through the first winter by the first Europeans?
Weren't they kept alive with food given by friendly Indians?

And how were they repaid? As I said. Strange holiday.
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I've always thought that the US`holiday of Thanksgiving is weird.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but, isn't Thanksgiving meant to celebrate the getting through the first winter by the first Europeans?
Weren't they kept alive with food given by friendly Indians?

And how were they repaid? As I said. Strange holiday.
That's part of the lore, but I've read (I can't remember where) that this may not have been true. Maybe it was.

I think it goes back to a general celebration of the "harvest," which many cultures have, before Winter begins.
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^^^ Thanks, BG. I'll take a look at web info. I wanted to move up near Port McNeil on the Inside Passage (lots of orcas there in the summer).

^^ We have Thanksgiving in Canada, too, but it's in October before the land freezes over.
It's for sharing and giving thanks to god's bounty for the harvest. What atrocities happened to the Indians came much later. The bands in Canada were also treated horribly.
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well yes, but they started it when they got with the frogs and then started the shit and it just went from bad to worse.
But thanksgiving was when they harvested their first crops so it was their food.

I used to set on my front porch and look off the end of my dock on a house I rented out past Deer Harbor and watch the Orcas swim by in the channel.
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^ Ya, les francais feked it up in Canada, too. Big fights over beaver pelts (outta the gutter now).

Ooh, BG, I do love my orcas. Sea lions are cute, too. Any salmon there? Crab pots for sure.
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We have pots set damn near year round and some go out and set pots for those big deep water shrimps, boy them som bitches is good, a friend has a 65 or 70 foot tug just setting there at the dock in Deer harbor, he is trying to sell and he lived on it and always had a couple of big plastic garbage cans sunk tied on the boat full of crabs just wanting to get in the boiling sea water.
If I had to live anywhere in that country it would be Orcas.

They do fish salmon too, right off the docks when the bait fish are schooling, snag a bait fish and then just cast it out and a salmon will eat it and then a sealion comes and eats the salmon. another deal like wiping your ass on a hoop, just no end to it.
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