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Jet Gorgon

Strolls, read the posts before you spew, please.
And since you're non-native English-speaking, I forgive you for not understanding the meaning of "funny" in that sentence.
As usual, you take a few lines and weave your own convoluted story around them.
Did you read her thesis, BTW? Why don't you give us your opinion on that? Guess it's too lengthy for your attention span. Or you don't want anyone to attack your shallow views of this "thesis".

raycarey

and it worked like a charm on the usual suspects here.

indeed.

stroller

Hehe, you're quite good at ad hominem attacks, I'd even call some of em 'funny' in my limited understanding of the English language. Unfortunately, insinuating I didn't read or don't understand doesn't refute anything I said though.
It is silly to shout 'foul' for quoting "out of context", when the text stands just a few inches above for all to see.

Oh, this reminds me: you never answered my question if you found out what "bible-basher" and "bible-thumper" mean and if you have confirmed for yourself that they are synonyms?
I'll gladly be of further assistance regarding this matter.

Thanks for answering your own question. This saves me some effort indeed.

sabang

Michelle, apart from graduating summa cum laude from Princeton in 1985, also was honoured with an Artium Baccalareus (whatever that is).

She then graduated from Harvard with a Doctorate of Law in 1988.

She grew up in a two parent, stable family (unlike Barak), which is perhaps why her brother Craig is also a success- 4th highest scoring basketballer for Princeton ever, and went on to coach Brown University, now coaches the Oregon Beavers.

Vanity Fair listed her as amongst the worlds ten best dressed women in July 2007, In September 2007 she was listed 58th of the 100 most influential Harvard alumni (Barak was 4th).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama

In spite of this attempt to depict her as the Racist, I just don't buy it. Have we seen anywhere near this much attention on Mrs McCain, a woman who's only real achievement was snagging an old married guy 15 years her senior, and breaking up a family in the process? Nope. But she's White.

This is thinly disguised Racism. Michelle Obama has little if anything to apologise for, and a lot to be proud of.

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Texpat

A one-term senator from Illinois is Harvard University's 4th most influential alumnus?

Surely they mean 4th among black alumni, alphabetically.

Henry Kissinger
John Kennedy
FDR
Mahidol Adulyadej
20 Supreme Court judges
42 cabinet secretaries

*edit*
just read the link ^ -- prior year's most influential ...

Jet Gorgon

I don't know what her clothing has to do with her ideologies, but that's a nice trophy to have, I guess. Obviously she loves dressing up and recently noted: "I'm a big fan of accessories. I'm married to one."
I know her academic achievements, SB, but I am listening to what she is saying now. She is heavily focused on raising the standards of the low-income black commmunity, demanding that Americans give up a bigger piece of their pie (ie, way more taxes) to fund healthcare/social progs, has stated that Barack could be shot just going to the gas station because he is a black man, and her now sneaked out thesis is also being labeled as racist (google michelle obama racist comments). OK, as Norton noted, that is her student days, but I still think that sentiment remains with her.
I just keep watching coz she lets bits slip in her speeches. Her handlers are conscious of her "racist" image, too, as they recently shouted "we need more white people" behind her for a speech -- you know, gotta get the news images that whites love her. The mainstream media is just gushing over them both. Fine, read American bloggers, watch some clips on Youtube, watch some right-wing news just to get an overall opinion, not just the lefties'.

sabang

The Obamas are great role models for the Black community, indeed any minority.
The fact that they have got this far in the Presidential campaign (and look odds on to snare the Dem nomination) has also thrust them into maximum visibility.

Good on them I say, and kudos to the USA too- I would not have believed this possible a year ago. The USA, like any democracy, allows a wide range of freedom of expression and thought. What we tend to read here is the more sensationalist stuff of course, but the plain fact is it is the Polls that speak loudest about what the average man on the street thinks, and Obama is a serious contender indeed.

Which explains the hysterical nature of the anti Obama blogs, at the end of the day. Keep 'em coming- it's amusing.

raycarey

link?
she may have indeed said it, but you've taken it out of context. either way, provide a link.

are you sure you don't want to keep harping on about her thesis she wrote 20 years ago? you seemed to really be enjoying that last week and the week before, and the week before that.


the horror!

so have you on this very forum.

'sneaked out'? what are you talking about? because you only read it now, it's been 'sneaked out'? and the only people labeling her as a racist are racist themselves. look in the mirror....on second thought.....

and this is based on what?

for example?

link?

Jet Gorgon

^^ Role models for the black community? OK, and what about the Latinos, Chinese and all those white folks?
^ I can read and remember. Everything is available via google and those key search words, Ray. And I never talked about her thesis and its contents until Norton provided the politico link with its full contents day before yesterday, which I read. I have questioned her choice of majors at uni.
You say "horror" in jest about higher taxes, Ray. Wonder what you'd say if you were still a resident when it happens.

Oh, here, I'll help you out with the links. Look, I even included a liberal news site!
The other opinions are my own, and I am entitled to them. Give us some of yours based on the news fallouts, Ray. Or you still just doing armchair crticism of other posters?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/09/michelle-obama-im-a-big-f_n_95914.html
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/02/26/politics/uwire/main3881166.shtml
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8642.html
http://www.mylot.com/nr/viewframe.aspx?id=725448&url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.disc riminations.us%2f2008%2f04%2fwe_need_more_white_pe ople_for.html&type=Blog
http://www.slate.com/id/2188714/?from=rss

sabang

The Chinese and Koreans hardly need the role model though- they mostly get on just fine.

blackgang

OK, I will go for that.
Well if they can do it then why can't the darkies?? They been there a lot more years than the orientals, in fact a lot longer than some of the white immigrants that didn't get there until the early 20th century, and everyone else seems to be doing OK.
Do you suppose that they have been given to much free shit and not given enough IQ by the powers that be??

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Jet Gorgon

^^ Yep, not many Asians on welfare. I wonder why? BG, you got an answer for that?

stroller

What about them? What's your point?

Do "all those white folks" need to be provided a role model by a black female?

What role model does Mrs. McCain provide for anyone?

Jet Gorgon

^ She's a lady who will be the First Lady. She's not there to put bugs in her husband's ear about what policies he should create for a portion of the nation. Policies must take in the good of all the nation's people.

blackgang

well yes really.
The Asians have mostly had to work for what they have, and the Darkies have never had to work for anything as what ever they wanted was given to them.

seems that some folks feel guilty cause some, not all darkies, were at one time slaves of some few early American farmers and the darkies will not let them forget it, and so all darkies now consider all whites to have been slave owners and owe them a free living, but the orientals that were abused are told to forget it and just suck it up.

stroller

Do you really need to hi-jack this thread as well with your racist sentiments?

This thread is about Michelle Obama, who has a hell of a lot more between the ears than yourself and some others here.
So get off the pot and spew your racist shite elsewhere.

sabang

^^ Exactly why the Obamas are a good role model actually.
They do not fit that stereotype, or mindset.

stroller

Oh, First Ladies aren't allowed any special interests to pursue, or converse with their husbands on policies?

That's news to me.

blackgang

Seems that you have been missing some of the things that they have been saying..

stroller

I obviously read the wrong books about slavery, I didn't know it was about giving the slaves whatever they wanted without them doing any work.

Nice try, but a few notches too imbecile to score any Brillo points.

Some folks acknowledge the present situation and how it grew from the past, nobody is owed a free living.
Up to the "Orientals" to voice their issues about past abuses, nobody suggests they shut up and forget about it - it's you and your ilk who demand this from the blacks.