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Old 19-07-2008, 06:13 AM   #681 (permalink)
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It takes a completely different candidacy to beat a fellow party member than one from the other camp. Irrespective of party affiliation. Osama will appear to flop more because McCain didn't say much while the GOPers fell out.

That doesn't mean he gets a free pass though.
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Old 19-07-2008, 07:04 AM   #682 (permalink)
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I think BO's Iraq adjustment is a good political move.
He still does not have the qualifications to be POTUS.
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I think BO's Iraq adjustment is a good political move.
He still does not have the qualifications to be POTUS.
That's your opinion. I think almost all candidates that get the nomination are qualified. More importantly, can they do the job. Do they have common sense. Do they surround themself with honest people who aren't "yes men & yes women?" Do they make good appointments.

In addition to this, as another poster has said, the President is influential of course, but the heavy lifting is done by the cabinet, bureaucracies, and the effects of POTUS policy are often in judicial appointments and eventual budgets that will be passed through the house.

We'll see in 14 weeks, Boon.

I honestly cannot call this election at this point. I think it will be very tight. I can already imagine the map of the continental US: red in the middle, part of the South, and Blue on the East and West coast and in some possibly, in the South.
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Old 19-07-2008, 09:03 AM   #684 (permalink)
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The McCain campaign has a powerful new advertisement focusing on Barack Obama’s continually changing positions on Iraq, consisting of nothing but Obama’s own statements: The Obama Iraq Documentary.

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Old 19-07-2008, 01:29 PM   #685 (permalink)
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"Obamas Priorities: Lets take a Look"

Well I think the answer is quite obvious- to win the US presidential election.

The considerable discomfiture emenating from the US right wing is compelling evidence that he's going about it the right way.

Guess you'll always blame 'the other person', or snipe at Obama- thats human nature- but much more productive would be to look within, and make an honest appraisal of the results of these neo-con policies. Self criticism is a powerful tool for learning and improvement.
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Old 19-07-2008, 06:40 PM   #686 (permalink)
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Heh...should have its own thread - maybe I'll start one on BO's gaffes as they are accumulating rather rapidly. Anyhow, check out this one!:

"Throughout our history, America’s confronted constantly evolving danger, from the oppression of an empire, to the lawlessness of the frontier, from the bomb that fell on Pearl Harbor, to the threat of nuclear annihilation. Americans have adapted to the threats posed by an ever-changing world."

This fool grew up in Hawaii and never learned the particulars re Pearl Harbor? Ignorant of World History or what?

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from the bomb that fell on Pearl Harbor,
OK, so he forget the 's' at the end of bomb. A speaking error more than a mential one, IMO.

Irrelevant.
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Old 20-07-2008, 08:58 PM   #688 (permalink)
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Iraq PM did not back Obama troop exit plan.

Spiegel lied, Americans sighed...

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki did not back the plan of Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama to withdraw U.S. troops from Iraq and his comments to a German magazine on the issue were misunderstood, the government's spokesman said on Sunday.

Ali al-Dabbagh said in a statement that Maliki's remarks to Der Spiegel were translated incorrectly."

Imagine that? No Media bias here...move along...

Iraq PM did not back Obama troop exit plan: government | U.S. | Reuters
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Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki did not back the plan of Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama to withdraw U.S. troops from Iraq
Of course he wouldn't back Obama's plans. Obama will insist the Iraqi government meet it's obligations to unscrew the political gridlock in Maliki's disfunctional governement. McCain like the current administration are quite happy to pretend "progress" is being made when none of the hard issues are close to resolution.

Obama has said firm deadlines holding the Iraqi's responsible for meeting them will be set and if not met troops will be withdrawn anyway.
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Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki did not back the plan of Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama to withdraw U.S. troops from Iraq
Of course he wouldn't back Obama's plans. Obama will insist the Iraqi government meet it's obligations to unscrew the political gridlock in Maliki's disfunctional governement. McCain like the current administration are quite happy to pretend "progress" is being made when none of the hard issues are close to resolution.

Obama has said firm deadlines holding the Iraqi's responsible for meeting them will be set and if not met troops will be withdrawn anyway.
Hmm..

"All of the most important objectives of the surge have been accomplished in Iraq. The sectarian civil war is ended; al Qaeda in Iraq (AQI) has been dealt a devastating blow; and the Sadrist militia and other Iranian-backed militant groups have been disrupted."

The New Reality in Iraq - WSJ.com

Seems like we still have "hard issues" with N. Korea & elsewhere around the globe...
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Well, if the US has won the glorious Iraqi War, they can leave now anyhow.
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"All of the most important objectives of the surge have been accomplished in Iraq. The sectarian civil war is ended; al Qaeda in Iraq (AQI) has been dealt a devastating blow; and the Sadrist militia and other Iranian-backed militant groups have been disrupted."
This is as per the words of the recent report card as released by GWB administration. The hard issues, IMO:

The May 2008 report card, obtained by the Associated Press, determines that only two of the benchmarks—enacting and implementing laws to disarm militias and distribute oil revenues —are unsatisfactory.

New Iraq report: 15 of 18 benchmarks satisfactory
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Unless we want to start another Obama thread, I'll post this latest bit of Obama news here:

Obama is snubbing the Foreign media as he's afraid of making more stupid comments on topics he's woefully ignorant of.

Barack Obama is on his way to Europe, where an adoring public awaits. But I wonder if the reception would be quite so enthusiastic if Obama's fans across the Atlantic knew a dirty little secret of his remarkable presidential campaign: Although Obama portrays himself as the best candidate to engage the rest of the world and restore America's image abroad, and many Americans support him for that reason, so far he has almost completely refused to answer questions from foreign journalists. When the press plane leaves tonight for his trip, there will be, as far as I know, no foreign media aboard. The Obama campaign has refused multiple requests from international reporters to travel with the candidate."

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Obama is snubbing the Foreign media as he's afraid of making more stupid comments on topics he's woefully ignorant of.
Or....

He knows full well if he has foreign press along the Republicans will claim he is pandering to foreigners in what should be a purely domestic Presidential Campaign.

Wouldn't be hard to predict what your comments would be if Al Jazeera was allowed to accompany him.
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Obama is snubbing the Foreign media as he's afraid of making more stupid comments on topics he's woefully ignorant of.
Or....

He knows full well if he has foreign press along the Republicans will claim he is pandering to foreigners in what should be a purely domestic Presidential Campaign.

Wouldn't be hard to predict what your comments would be if Al Jazeera was allowed to accompany him.
Not at all. reason he's keeping the foreign media at bay is they ask hard questions while the US press is in 'the bag' for him.
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Not at all. reason he's keeping the foreign media at bay is they ask hard questions while the US press is in 'the bag' for him.
And what would these hard questions be coming from the foreign media? I will have to check but wonder how much foreign press McCain had on his visits to other countries?
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The US goes, so does the cash flow until the oil revs come in.

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Not at all. reason he's keeping the foreign media at bay is they ask hard questions while the US press is in 'the bag' for him.
And what would these hard questions be coming from the foreign media? I will have to check but wonder how much foreign press McCain had on his visits to other countries?
Tit for tat is not the issue, Norts. If BO is panning to the world, he should talk to the foreign press. EU folks love him coz he is a lefty (albeit moving quickly to center).
I talked to some pros of diff busineses in the States on the wkend. They all think badly of BO. US history? Tax programs? Social welfare? Foreign issues? Trade agreements? Economiy? All said he was a pumped-up ad for fake leadership. Who are his admin folks that will choose what info to give him and ultimately make all the decisions?
No kind words for his wife either.
He looks pretty, but can he do the job? You want an America that panders and grovels to all the other nations? I think not. America needs a strong leader. Personality is not the issue. Leadership is. This ain't a fekin tea party decision choosing the winner by who has the prettiest face and most charm.
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He looks pretty, but can he do the job? You want an America that panders and grovels to all the other nations? I think not.
How do I break this to you, Jetty ...?

I think that's exactly what many want.
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