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Old 02-05-2008, 11:11 AM   #441 (permalink)
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Maybe Michelle should run for Pres. Family Biz seems to be all the rage in US politics.
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Old 02-05-2008, 12:38 PM   #442 (permalink)
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Moore: Jeez, you know, I mean I go to Mass still. I'm a practicing Catholic. I've been that way all my life. But if I had -- if I had gotten up every time I heard a priest from the pulpit in my travels around the country say things like I've heard them say, that birth control is a sin, that women should not be priests, that women should have a different role in church ... King: You'd be walking out all the time?
My point exactly. Since when has the more extreme comments from some bluddy Pastor been meant to be representative of the views of intelligent people within the Congregation?
I think this depends on the content and the frequency. If the pastor in the church says such extreme things once in a blue moon, OK. But IMHO if the pastor continues to spout such rhetoric week in and week out then any reasonable person that does not agree with the rhetoric would find another church. I have not paid enough attention to the reverend Wright issue to say where he would fall in this spectrum (once in a blue moon – every week) – regardless of reverend Wright I do not agree with much of the Obama platform so his associations don’t really matter to me.

Plenty of folks spouting about how the Muslim community needs to deal with the fanatical spouting of the extreme Muslim imams and the such - why is reverend Wright so different. Granted the good reverends message is not near as extreme but if we are to expect the Muslim community to tone down the rhetoric with their religious teachers is it not only fair to expect the same of the Christian community?

Last bird I dated in the US was Catholic and while the Catholic Church certainly has certain views when it comes to abortion, contraception, gays, and women, there are priests out there that leave these topics to the individual and do not pepper their sermons with it. One just has to have the resolve to find a church/ pastor/ priest that does not diverge too much from ones own personal beliefs.
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Just a thought:

Could it be that Obama's association with Wright has been instrumental in furthering Obama's political career, in the community as well as a door-opener - and Obama associated with him inspite of his controversial opinions, not because of them?
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Meanwhile, experts are praising Obama's gas tax position as economically sound. McCain's and Hilary's positions have been roundly rejected by experts.

Obama wins support on opposition to gas tax holiday

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Barack Obama boasts a growing list of experts and newspaper editorial boards backing his opposition to a summer gas tax holiday.

They agree with him that the proposal makes little economic or environmental sense, and they join him in accusing Democratic rival Hillary Clinton and Republican John McCain of political pandering.

But on the politics, not the policy, it's not at all clear that Obama will be the winner - not with gas prices at all-time highs and some predicting $4 a gallon this summer.
Obama wins support on opposition to gas tax holiday - The Boston Globe
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Old 02-05-2008, 07:07 PM   #446 (permalink)
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Boston Globe?

Right...probably even further (if that's possible) left of the NYT...
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Old 02-05-2008, 07:15 PM   #447 (permalink)
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Chinthee is a commie Lib. He's also quoted Wiki before and supports the most extremist Senator in US history: Obama.

Had you fooled for a while, eh?
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Old 03-05-2008, 10:07 AM   #449 (permalink)
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Meanwhile, experts are praising Obama's gas tax position as economically sound. McCain's and Hilary's positions have been roundly rejected by experts.
Pure political pandering on Hillary's part. This brilliant suggestion from a lady who has ostracized the "big oil" companies for making too much profit, and based her campaign on developing alternative fuels to reduce dependency on oil.

She now wants to cut gas tax so people can purchase more gas! Typical of status quo, politics as usual coming from someone who claims she can bring "change". Hypocritically to the end.
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Funny thing with the gas cos, they don't know what to do with all their money. That's half of why people are balking coz those billions are just sitting on the books.
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BO's other radical friends is a topic some on the Left would just as soon gloss over. But, as you know, we can't. Inquiring minds and all that, eh?

"Apparently, back when he was running for state senate, Barack Obama had fund-raising events at the home of Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, and there's been some press about the senator's friendship with this controversial Weathercouple. Many reporters are well aware, even though Mr. Obama has described his connection to Ayers and Dohrn as "flimsy," that the senator's relationship with his radical Hyde Park neighbors is actually quite warm, even close."

Obama's Other Radical Friends - WSJ.com
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err.....'thanks' for cutting and pasting someone else's opinion......again.
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Which is becoming shared by many of late...heh
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Is gas tax federal or state level? Fed I would guess, but then why do pump prices differ depending on geo location? (Sure, different cos charge different prices, but are usually within a few cents of each other in the same areas.)
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Both McCain and Hillary's 'Gas tax exemption' electioneering carrots are utterly, utterly stupid. An exeample of, when it comes down to actual Policy, Obama is in a different league entirely. It's a shame that, in this mass media age, people are being spoon fed with non-sequiturs such as a firebrand pastor, drinking beer and bowling with the great unwashed to show you are a 'peoples person', and so on.

Obama, who is routinely accused of being a smooth talking populist with no substance, is the only candidate that has an actual energy policy. The Republicans are of course the 'Party of Denial' (or a party in denial) but Dem Hillary offering this stupidity is a blatant attempt to bribe votes from the short sighted and ignorant. I can only presume that the Democratic superdelegates see right through it.

Gas Tax Exemption in a nutshell = Borrow more from China, to pay Opec.
It just continues, and exacerbates, current US issues such as over reliance on hydro carbon energy, gratuitous consumption thereof, ballooning government debt and foreign indebtedness, and environmental issues.
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Latest gas tax rates I could find (2002).
Sorry, unable to copy and paste.
U.S. Gasoline Taxes by State
Looks like Alaska wins with zero or lowest rates at different govt levels.
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Bill Ayers - the problem that won't go away. How about a picture of him stepping on the US Flag? Same time he served on that 'Board' we keep hearing about but know so little?



"Guilty as sin, free as a bird, it's a great country" is one of the Ayers quotes in the top clipping.

Marathon Pundit: Bill Ayers stepping on a US flag in 2001

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I think it pretty much has gone away for 99% but thanks for reminding us! I will follow this with my undivided attention.
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Both McCain and Hillary's 'Gas tax exemption' electioneering carrots are utterly, utterly stupid. An exeample of, when it comes down to actual Policy, Obama is in a different league entirely. It's a shame that, in this mass media age, people are being spoon fed with non-sequiturs such as a firebrand pastor, drinking beer and bowling with the great unwashed to show you are a 'peoples person', and so on.

Obama, who is routinely accused of being a smooth talking populist with no substance, is the only candidate that has an actual energy policy......

Gas Tax Exemption in a nutshell = Borrow more from China, to pay Opec.
It just continues, and exacerbates, current US issues such as over reliance on hydro carbon energy, gratuitous consumption thereof, ballooning government debt and foreign indebtedness, and environmental issues.
Yes, the federal gas tax is .18 cents I believe. A bandaid covering a larger problem. Election pandering and it does reveal the simplicity and silliness of some of the candidates. The masses are also part of this foolishness.

Laughable.
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