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AntRobertson · 13-02-2008, 10:33 PM

^ Stop changing the subject Bobby.

BobbyTits · 13-02-2008, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AntRobertson

^ Stop changing the subject Bobby.

The point was the bills he proposed seemed pretty one sided toward black issues.

Not something very reassuring to most white Americans if he is to become the next US President as his accomplishments are a big point of debate.

As I stated this guy is really America's only hope out of the current pool of candidates.

And you're still an antagonistic cnut , that will not change.

AntRobertson · 13-02-2008, 10:52 PM

Two pages and 22 posts and we finally get to the point.

You should've just said that at the start.

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Originally Posted by BobbyTits

And you're still an antagonistic cnut , that will not change

You're changing the subject again.

britmaveric · 13-02-2008, 11:00 PM

From what I gather Obama has little to say, and I don't think yanks have to worry because he wont be president.

BobbyTits · 13-02-2008, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by britmaveric

From what I gather Obama has little to say, and I don't think yanks have to worry because he wont be president.

Can you elaborate ?

His speeches are very powerful if you scroll up and watch the youtube clip I posted.

No one else has the balls to openly put Bush in his place and point out what a bullshit artist he is.

Also the stats on the primary vote counts show that Democrats are turning out in double the numbers Republicans are.

So unless Bush can throw another election there seems to be a very good chance the next administration will be a Democratic one.

britmaveric · 13-02-2008, 11:19 PM

All he says is CHANGE, and no real plans. Look for empty promises... I recall him saying... we will rebuild the levees in New Orleans to withstand a Cat5 Hurricane that will last a hundred years. (full of shite promise)

-McCain will beat either dem candidate, and Dems will meltdown once again.

chinthee · 14-02-2008, 07:36 AM

This has got to be the most disjointed, confused thread in issues. Not sure if it should be continued as is, shit-canned, or something in between.

raycarey · 14-02-2008, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by britmaveric

All he says is CHANGE, and no real plans

utter nonsense....but considering that you're the source, why am i surprised?

http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/Obama...tForChange.pdf

Barack Obama | Change We Can Believe In | Issues

of course you won't download and read it, but others interested in becoming informed might.

Begbie · 14-02-2008, 10:06 AM

^Thanks Ray

keda · 14-02-2008, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by britmaveric

All he says is CHANGE, and no real plans. Look for empty promises... I recall him saying... we will rebuild the levees in New Orleans to withstand a Cat5 Hurricane that will last a hundred years. (full of shite promise)

-McCain will beat either dem candidate, and Dems will meltdown once again.

Main thing against him is his age...sure Reagan turned it around when this was brought up and his response was well rehearsed as no doubt McCain's is if or rather when it's brought up by the opposition, but fact is he's aiming for the most powerful post in the world and the 'don't knows' may well decide they want a younger person.

britmaveric · 14-02-2008, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by raycarey

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Originally Posted by britmaveric

All he says is CHANGE, and no real plans

utter nonsense....but considering that you're the source, why am i surprised?

http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/Obama...tForChange.pdf

Barack Obama | Change We Can Believe In | Issues

of course you won't download and read it, but others interested in becoming informed might.

Ironic coming from a TEFLer!!!

Sir Burr · 14-02-2008, 11:03 PM

Americans are going to punish the Republican party for the debacle in Iraq big time.
The next president will be a Democrat.

britmaveric · 14-02-2008, 11:09 PM

Burr - doubtful, that was said last yank pres election time. Debacle doesnt seem to be much of a debacle these days.

BobbyTits · 14-02-2008, 11:42 PM

^ CIA threw the last election - blatantly

They like corporate sponsored wars to line their cronies pockets.

britmaveric · 14-02-2008, 11:45 PM

Guess that will be the explanation again if Repubs win?

BobbyTits · 14-02-2008, 11:48 PM

^ If they pull the shit they did in Florida again yes.

But his brother is no longer the Governor there so will have to wait and see.

keda · 15-02-2008, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BobbyTits

^ CIA threw the last election - blatantly

They like corporate sponsored wars to line their cronies pockets.

IF that's the case, why should they stop now?

Jet Gorgon · 15-02-2008, 12:48 PM

Just watched the linky of Obama in Wisconsin. Thanks, Bobby. Lady asked about home foreclosures and Obama said he'd have a $10 bil program in place to help folks, but wants them to work with the banks to negotiate deals. OK. Didn't Bush just get pounded for suggesting just such a bill? Most of the foreclosures are on subprime borrowers who could never afford the loan payments (like welfare folks -- not all, but some). Why bail out the losers? Throwing good money after bad, IMO. It is the banks' fault for setting up these insane mortgage-for-anybody policies, but they are also paying for it. I think Wachovia is the only bank that steered clear of these loan issues.
I also cringe when his wife speaks at interviews -- Princeton-Harvard law grad and she says "gonna". Ouch. That hits a chord.

keda · 15-02-2008, 01:46 PM

Whether irresponsible individuals or financial institutions, losers expecting to be bailed out are likely to turn into serial losers.

In the case of the conglomerates, it's nothing short of criminal to post enormous profits year on year and then stat squealing when a bad move bites their ass.

BobbyTits · 15-02-2008, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

Just watched the linky of Obama in Wisconsin. Thanks, Bobby. Lady asked about home foreclosures and Obama said he'd have a $10 bil program in place to help folks, but wants them to work with the banks to negotiate deals. OK. Didn't Bush just get pounded for suggesting just such a bill? Most of the foreclosures are on subprime borrowers who could never afford the loan payments (like welfare folks -- not all, but some). Why bail out the losers? Throwing good money after bad, IMO. It is the banks' fault for setting up these insane mortgage-for-anybody policies, but they are also paying for it. I think Wachovia is the only bank that steered clear of these loan issues.
I also cringe when his wife speaks at interviews -- Princeton-Harvard law grad and she says "gonna". Ouch. That hits a chord.

It sure is a sign of the wild times ahead.

Have never heard his wife speak will youtube up some footage of her as she ain't no half whitey.

I am far from a fan of the black community in USA as this is pretty typical of them

YouTube - Deputies dump paralyzed man from wheelchair

Hope Obama is different.

13-02-2008, 10:33 PM	#21 (permalink)
AntRobertson Ich Bin Ein Auslander Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 8,384	^ Stop changing the subject Bobby.

13-02-2008, 11:00 PM	#24 (permalink)
britmaveric Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Pattaya Posts: 2,127	From what I gather Obama has little to say, and I don't think yanks have to worry because he wont be president.

13-02-2008, 11:19 PM	#26 (permalink)
britmaveric Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Pattaya Posts: 2,127	All he says is CHANGE, and no real plans. Look for empty promises... I recall him saying... we will rebuild the levees in New Orleans to withstand a Cat5 Hurricane that will last a hundred years. (full of shite promise) -McCain will beat either dem candidate, and Dems will meltdown once again.

14-02-2008, 07:36 AM	#27 (permalink)
chinthee Sundance is my bff Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 5,789	This has got to be the most disjointed, confused thread in issues. Not sure if it should be continued as is, shit-canned, or something in between.

14-02-2008, 10:06 AM	#29 (permalink)
Begbie Senior Member Last Online: Yesterday 06:36 AM Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Lagrangian Point Posts: 5,058	^Thanks Ray

14-02-2008, 11:03 PM	#32 (permalink)
Sir Burr Rhubarb, rhubarb, rhubarb Last Online: Yesterday 09:50 PM Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: East Timor. Posts: 4,660	Americans are going to punish the Republican party for the debacle in Iraq big time. The next president will be a Democrat.

14-02-2008, 11:09 PM	#33 (permalink)
britmaveric Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Pattaya Posts: 2,127	Burr - doubtful, that was said last yank pres election time. Debacle doesnt seem to be much of a debacle these days.

14-02-2008, 11:42 PM	#34 (permalink)
BobbyTits I am in Jail Last Online: Yesterday 12:02 AM Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 561	^ CIA threw the last election - blatantly They like corporate sponsored wars to line their cronies pockets.

14-02-2008, 11:45 PM	#35 (permalink)
britmaveric Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Pattaya Posts: 2,127	Guess that will be the explanation again if Repubs win?

14-02-2008, 11:48 PM	#36 (permalink)
BobbyTits I am in Jail Last Online: Yesterday 12:02 AM Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 561	^ If they pull the shit they did in Florida again yes. But his brother is no longer the Governor there so will have to wait and see.

15-02-2008, 12:48 PM	#38 (permalink)
Jet Gorgon What the Dormouse Said Last Online: Today 03:11 AM Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Rabbit Hole Posts: 5,717	Just watched the linky of Obama in Wisconsin. Thanks, Bobby. Lady asked about home foreclosures and Obama said he'd have a $10 bil program in place to help folks, but wants them to work with the banks to negotiate deals. OK. Didn't Bush just get pounded for suggesting just such a bill? Most of the foreclosures are on subprime borrowers who could never afford the loan payments (like welfare folks -- not all, but some). Why bail out the losers? Throwing good money after bad, IMO. It is the banks' fault for setting up these insane mortgage-for-anybody policies, but they are also paying for it. I think Wachovia is the only bank that steered clear of these loan issues. I also cringe when his wife speaks at interviews -- Princeton-Harvard law grad and she says "gonna". Ouch. That hits a chord.

15-02-2008, 01:46 PM	#39 (permalink)
keda Elite Member Last Online: Yesterday 10:09 PM Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 4,942	Whether irresponsible individuals or financial institutions, losers expecting to be bailed out are likely to turn into serial losers. In the case of the conglomerates, it's nothing short of criminal to post enormous profits year on year and then stat squealing when a bad move bites their ass.