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Old 02-06-2009, 08:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Lets not forget the developed western nations got their start through brutal child labour and slavery.
Oh, but hatter is supporting all those folks in Burma.
And I suppose you dont buy any products from developing countries either?
Nope.


here's a chance to backtrack jet.....you can try to write it off as your "wacky sense of humor"....or are you seriously going to stick with the claim that you don't buy any products from developing countries?
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Old 02-06-2009, 09:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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predicting an immediate collapse every week for the following 6 months
All these guys who read these panic blogs like zerohedge have had bollocks ripped clean off with their foolish short positions. They think the world is ending, it isnt, the US government are reflating the asset bubble while we speak. It has to fall apart sooner or later, but it aint gonna be this year. By next year the world economy will have improved and the US will have averted major disaster by buying time.
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Old 02-06-2009, 10:28 PM   #3 (permalink)
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predicting an immediate collapse every week for the following 6 months
All these guys who read these panic blogs like zerohedge have had bollocks ripped clean off with their foolish short positions. They think the world is ending, it isnt, the US government are reflating the asset bubble while we speak. It has to fall apart sooner or later, but it aint gonna be this year. By next year the world economy will have improved and the US will have averted major disaster by buying time.
It is a case of staying ahead of the curve (at least as far ahead as Butterfly remains behind). BKKandrew stated some while ago that the next move after the deflationary debt deleveraging was going to be an inflationary spiral triggered by the collapse of the bond market.

Too many people obsess about the circumstances they see in front of their eyes, such as the fans of the blogs you refer to. Of course, Butterfly (in a group of one) just rants in denial about events that took place 1-2 years ago...
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Old 03-06-2009, 01:02 AM   #4 (permalink)
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^Butterfly is so thoroughly discredited, he decides to misquote others by chopping up sentances now as some form of diversion tactic. Here is the full passage:

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It is a case of staying ahead of the curve (at least as far ahead as Butterfly remains behind). BKKandrew stated some while ago that the next move after the deflationary debt deleveraging was going to be an inflationary spiral triggered by the collapse of the bond market.
Truely pathetic actions from a truely pathetic, hapless and weak individual.
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Old 03-06-2009, 07:55 AM   #5 (permalink)
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it's sentences with "e", and I am not misquoting

bkka, why are you making up words and sentences you have no clue about ? and this below is worth requoting:

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Old 03-06-2009, 08:28 AM   #6 (permalink)
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^I have enjoyed this informative and uncannily accurate thread, but I don't know you are trolling it. Anyone can see that the sentence you are quoting from reads

"The next move after the deflationary debt deleveraging was going to be an inflationary spiral triggered by the collapse of the bond market."

This seems to make perfect sense to me. Have you nothing to offer this thread aside from trying to twist sentences around by excluding words within them and offering spelling advice?
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Old 03-06-2009, 08:34 AM   #7 (permalink)
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^ please explain how it makes sense to you ?

does this make sense to you: "if I throw a stone in the air, it will go up, not go down" ? if yes, please explain.

Maybe look in the thread where I have put lengthy and logical explanation before, so I believe you are coming a bit late to lecture me, above all when you have added absolutely nothing yourself.

Characters like bkka need to be ridiculed and exposed, it's a public duty
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^Surely it makes sense to say that after one set of events happen, another follows. To use your analogy - after the stone was thrown in the air, it fell to Earth.

I don't know why you seem to have so much trouble understanding this. By then deliberatly misquoting the other poster it seems that you simply do not wish to understand. If that is the case, so be it, but why invite ridicule on yourself by demonstrating your lack of knowledge and desire to not learn?
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^^Also, having read some of your other posts, I see that your first language is not English. I apologise for having a go at you therefore. Maybe you genuinely didn't understand. In view of this and to address your point about myself not contributing to this thread, I will try and explain the quoted sentence in simple terms for you.

"The next move after the deflationary debt deleveraging was going to be an inflationary spiral triggered by the collapse of the bond market."


"The next move" is a colloquial term, sort of a saying meaning what will happen next.

"After" means will happen afterwards. For instance, after you drink alcohol you can get drunk.

"The deflationary debt deleveraging" means the period that we have experienced, with failing banks, withdrawel of credit and reduced asset, goods and commodity prices.

"was going to be" is a way of saying it is inevitable, i.e., one follows the other, it will happen.

"an inflationary spiral" is when prices increase severely and constantly.

"triggered by" is again a colloquial way of saying that it is started by.

"the collapse of the bond market" refers to the market of selling debt, both Government and corporate and the fact that it will collapse.

I hope this helps, however, before criticising others on an English language forum, it may be better to brush-up on English terms. Either that or join a French-language forum I suppose.
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Old 03-06-2009, 08:53 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Surely it makes sense to say that after one set of events happen, another follows.
you mean like any events ? nope, you can't just make up causes and consequences just because they sound nice to you.

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after the stone was thrown in the air, it fell to Earth.
well in this case, according to bkka logic, it would go up in the sky

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I don't know why you seem to have so much trouble understanding this.
because it's not the truth, asking to understand how "throwing a stone in the air will keep going up" is simply a lie, there is nothing to understand about it. Can you understand that ?

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By then deliberatly misquoting the other poster it seems that you simply do not wish to understand.
there was no misquote, I simply highlighted a bunch of words that didn't mean anything that were just put together by bkka to show off. Perfectly legitimate.

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but why invite ridicule on yourself by demonstrating your lack of knowledge and desire to not learn?
so far, you keep lecturing me but you have contributed nothing to the discussion, only defending a fraud, which I find the timing quite suspicious as bkka is running out of options to hide himself

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Old 03-06-2009, 10:29 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Dont worry too much about Butterfly there Escapeeeee. He tends to troll threads and then turns them into arguments with personal attacks rather than putting up a rational debate. An example of which you see above. Best just to ignore his insults as its what he gets off on rather than the subject matter of the discussion. He is just something we have to put up with around here. Dont get sucked into his little personal contests, it only detracts from the value of the discussion and f*cks the tread. I see you are relatitively new here. You will work him out sooner or later.
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Old 03-06-2009, 10:56 AM   #12 (permalink)
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^ kind words from you, Panda
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Was just trying to be diplomatic about the way it was said.
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^ you and bkka remind me of the religious preachers, always "quoting the bible" (in this case the blogsphere) and not making any sense logically, but only in their "simplistic" view of the world, calling for the end of times and God's revenge on the sinners

so tell me, Panda, were you preacher in a former life
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^ Bipolar. Manic stage me thinks.
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^ I don't know if you or bkka are bi-polar if that's what you mean
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^ I don't know if you or bkka are bi-polar if that's what you mean
You wouldn't know what I mean. Paranoia is part of the affliction.
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^^Paranoia is something I identified in Butterfly in this thread:

http://teakdoor.com/us-domestic-issu...ml#post1067961 (U.S. Inflation to Approach Zimbabwe Level, Faber Says (Update2))

Now we see him deliverately missing words out of posts he is quoting in order to turn their meaning on their head. This, I believe, is evidence of a 'Bunker Mentality', where realisation hits that you are wrong and defeated and start to make pointless attacks on a 'scattergun' basis.

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