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obsidian

ageist poo. age, in and of itself, is lame gauge to count out a presidential candidate.

Milkman

Ray, I DON'T like McCain, and but I am not sure if age will play into this race or not.

He has handlers. They are crafting his shoot-from-the-hip statements, and training him.

He's an experienced politician - doesn't mean he's good - it means he's good at words.

And yes, Reagan was old - and he got elected twice in landslides.

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skycop51

He looks so damn old, and tired most of the time. Then you see his wife, my Lord what does he do about that, seriously. Any volunteers here? Oh I like Romney.

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Milkman

Below is an article from the NY TIMES, today. It details specific policies and positions by McCain that draw the ire and fierce opposition of conservatives. I am starting to warm up to him a little, as I cannot stand Social Conservatives, and Xtian Right-wing conservatives. This article also contains comments from Coulter and other Right-Wing socially conservative spin doctors. McCain is going to pretend to be more conservative, in the coming weeks, IMO.

Entire: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/01/us...hp&oref=slogin

raycarey

MM

a couple of unresolved matters....


1. why is jeb bush 'brilliant'.

2. do you know anyone in their 70s? and if so, do any of them still have the wherewithal to hold what should be one of the most demanding jobs in the world?

the US has had 7 years of someone who wasn't interested in the job of governing, it doesn't need 4 more from someone who needs to take naps instead of governing.

call it ageist if you will, but i consider it to be pragmatic. 76 year olds should be retired---not running the country.

and i don't think i'm alone in this thinking....a lot of boomers have parents who are living longer than anyone ever imagined, and they have first hand experience of the capabilities of a 70 year old....and i doubt they'll be able to vote for one in good conscience.

Milkman

My statement of 'brilliant' is a bit over-the-top, using that term for anyone. Jeb seems intelligent, and I like his background in that he studied in Latin America, got a BA in Latin American studies, and then went to work in a bank. Jeb is not a big government guy, at least this is what I recall. GWB is a big government spend crazy politician. (Yes, he did have connections, being a Bush family member.)

I made this statement with the assumption, that since another Bushie got into office, and elected, it should have been Jeb instead of GWB. Jeb, was an original signer of the PNAC, too. So, me not like him, too much.

Hypothetical, now.

Yes, I know people in their 70s, and even 80s and 90s.

Yes, I think being 72 (he'll be 73 in August) is too old to be President, mentally and physically.

My comment was as it is now: age may not be a factor in the election, if McCain is the nominee. His choice of VP will be very crucial.

skycop51

How important that Mc has selected a Great Vice President. I am not sure he will live out his term. Look at him...as I have said he looks very tired and old. IMHO

skcop51

chinthee

Reagan was very fortunate to have a youthful appearance, and I don't remember but think he was much older than McCain when first elected?

William

^going to show that even without politicians, a country can run itself...

Hootad Binky

McCain, the fiscal conservative/war hero, up against an adulterer, a preacher, a libertarian, and a Mormon Basically, the lunatic fringe of the Republican party, not exactly a tough field.

I think Romney is the best of the lot. Unfortunately, many evangelicals, representing 30% of voting Republicans, consider Mormonism a "cult" = campaign over! He must have known this from the start.

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Butterfly

What happened to Ron Paul ?

raycarey

it appers ever more likely that mccain is going to get the republican nomination. and IMO that's a good thing because it will force the debate to the center---which is where most americans are politically. the divisive, rovian machinations of the last 8 years haven't done anything for the country, except drive it apart.

Milkman

Ron Paul is still campaigning and spreading his message.

racarey:
Yeah, most of the U.S. is at the Center, and therfore I want to see politicians from the Center. They can dole out little tokens to those on the fringe, but I want someone from the Center political, culturally, and economically.

Norton

McCain's moderate position is refreshing and long awaited as you well point out.

Given his position on the Iraq war, I would guess he shouldn't be expecting your vote however!

raycarey

not even close to getting my vote. but he seems like a decent man, and i look forward to a national debate which focuses on where the country is headed---not one that is corrupted by rovian wedge issues like 'same sex marriage' and abortion.

besides, he'll never beat obama. the majority of americans are not going to vote for someone older than their grandfather to president. he'll be 76 or 77 when he's finished (if he lives that long or doesn't have a stroke)...and it's very well documented that he hasn't had an easy life.

Mr Earl

It's gonna get interesting: McCain vs Obama in the general election.
The true war hero political heavy against the brilliant orator political youth.

Bluecat

Mc Cain is too old, Obama is too young.
Well, I bet on a female US president next time.
But whoever it is, it is anyway going to be a relief...

BobbyTits

If you look at the turn out figures at how many Democrats are showing up to vote in the primaries there is a very good chance that McCain will be having his ass handed to him come November.

Boon Mee

A pic of John McCain staring at EM Zanotti's chest.

BobbyTits