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Milkman

This book is one of the top-sellers in the US.

In my opinion it's historically flawed.

And obviously biased to the point of being obtuse.

"Mussolini" is also in the title of the book, which has a Hitler mustache on a smiley face.

Why such a cover?


Another polemicist, that confuses American sheep.

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Boon Mee

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Have you read the book or just reviews of it and where?

Milkman

I've read dozens of reviews. I don't plan on reading it because it's in the realm of Coulter, Moore, etc.

Equating Hitler's National Socialism, and Mussolini's concept of Fascism (which both wrote extensively about) and equating it with the Classical Liberalism in the USA (which doesn't really exist) is way over the top.

The Dutch are left-wing. The Swedish Left-wing.

They don't like Hitler and Nazi National Socialism. Go ask them sometime.


The definitions are not even accurate.

Goldberg is not a fool. He's joining the ranks of the polemicist entertainers in order to make a buck. Glenn Beck does it. Anne Coulter Does it. Michael Moore does it. Now it's Goldberg's turn.

Boon Mee

Hi premise is correct tho...the ranks of Liberal hatemongers are becoming more shrill by the day. Liberals by definition should be tolerant respectful of opinions by others but that's certainly not the case is it?

Milkman

I agree, Boon.

That's why I'm sick of the polemicists.

The Black or White, but no gray.

Right vs. Wrong.

Or, people must be "stupid" because of an opinion they hold.

Calling people names.

Yelling on TV.

Yelling on the radio.


Some Liberals are in a little cliquey club. Same with other groups.


I think the vitriol has affected the attitudes of many Americans, because they are inundated by these shrill mongers on both sides, and all sides of any cultural or political debate.

I'm tuning out.

Boon Mee

This book is a nuclear missile of logic poked right into the eye of the unhinged left!

Milkman

^ there is no left in the US.

It's in Europe. And in Europe people are vehemently opposed to Hitler's National Socialism and Mussolini's Fascism.

Try to present some fact. If you do, I will, also.

Hootad Binky

Just as pigs screech when they smell the blood of their pals on the way into the slaughterhouse, so too right-wing Conservatives, themselves far closer to Fascism, screaming and bleating 'cause they're going to lose everything next election, and they know it.

stroller

So, have you read the book then, further than the pic on the cover?

It's the first I hear about it, but I have discussed the claim that Hitler was "left-wing" and the Nazis socialists on several forums. It's a very persistent myth, mostly told on the other side of the Atlantic. It does not withstand historic and ideological examination.
To look at the "socialist" in the name, and populist socialist policies is very myopic, specially when concentrating on the 1920s only. For starters, "Capitalism" here should not be confused with the Marxist concept of it, for the Nazis this was a term which invoked conspiracies of Jewish capital world domination.

Almost the entire German Left was opposed to the Nazis, and they were the first to be persecuted, along with the Jews.

The claim gets really absurd in relation to US liberals or the Democrat Party - there is no common ground with classical nor modern Liberalism.

Hootad Binky

"Liberal Fascism" as a label registers as a concept at about the academic level of a daytime talk show (therefore slightly above Fox news). Just because the Nazis called themselves "National Socialists" doesn't mean they actually were.

Boon Mee

Plenty of fact out there M/M and you know it. University professors brainwashing young minds like Ward Churchill in Colorado to those Ivy League schools like Columbia etc. The media is overwhelmingly 'Left' - a well-known and admitted fact. But, to take a quote from Goldbergs's book re Nazis and anti-Semitism:

"One of the more under-appreciated motives of the Nazi extermination campaign against the Jews was how it was driven by paranoia. Nazi anti-Semitism wasn't merely bigoted, it was conspiratorial. The Nazis and affiliated intellectuals firmly believed that the Jew was behind the scenes, pulling strings, manipulating events, rigging the system — even the language — in profound and pernicious ways. Carl Schmitt — quite popular on the left today — was tasked with the job of purging the Jewish spirit from the law."

Deny it ain't so? Nazis were shit-scared of the Heeeb - right or wrong?

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sabang

The basic premise of the book as far as I can see is that Far Right Fascism and Far Left Socialism are essentially the same. Whereas of course, they are diametrically opposed.

Who would pay any opinion to this book except someone who considers Ann Coulter an intellectual?

AntRobertson

How you repeatedly claim that as "fact", much less a "well-known" one, when it's nothing of the sort boggles the mind. It's the constantly repeated yet unsubstantiated refrain of right-wing blogs. There is no 'proof', there is no 'fact'.

A lie often repeated still remains a lie, albeit a pervasive one.

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Boon Mee

Well, all you have to do - if so inclined, is to check out some of the left-wing blogs like the Huffington post, kosfiles etc and see how incensed they are? This book hits a nerve...for sure.

AntRobertson

Well if you're going to use that rationale, it would appear that Hillary Clinton is the greatest living politician and has the potential to be the best ever President of the US.

Left or right, you really need to read further afield than blogs Booners...

Boon Mee

Lame..again
The left-wing blogs do not hold the Hildebeast in high regard.
Try again...

AntRobertson

Yes and neither do the right. In fact they vertiably slam her any given chance. So by your rationale all this incensed ranting about her somehow speaks to her veracity.

Boon Mee

Veracity - she has none. Getting off-topic here.
But, by the same token, Ann Coulter must have lots too, eh?

The premise of the book in question is the lunatic left is becoming fascist in its own right.

AntRobertson

You're the one who brought the issue of blog reactions into this.

I take it you haven't actually read it though?