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Old 17-01-2008, 01:37 AM   #1 (permalink)
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US Presidential Campaign 2008
This is the thread to discuss all candidates, policies, issues, polls, Cacuses, primaries, nominees, etc.

Over to you folks.

*Note- both parties are included in this thread.

There is no distinction between parties (D) and (R).

All candidates and policy positions are included. In the future, perhaps two threads can be split.
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Old 17-01-2008, 02:59 AM   #2 (permalink)
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What a race! The R's have three different winners in three different races; perhaps Obama's Martin Luther King schitck is getting thin, given Hilary's strong win in Michigan (on CNN, Obama's Michigan votes, about 30%, were listed as "uncommitted" or something; his name didn't appear anywhere in the final tally, not sure why).
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Old 17-01-2008, 09:55 AM   #3 (permalink)
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What a race! The R's have three different winners in three different races....
There have been articles released today discussing the possibility of a brokered convention, in Sept. It's possible.
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Old 17-01-2008, 11:44 AM   #4 (permalink)
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MM, good idea to start this thread. Was getting confusing with all the others. Hillary, Romney, Huckabee etc. threads.
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Old 17-01-2008, 11:54 AM   #5 (permalink)
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This race is turning out to be very atypical. In the past by the time super Tuesday rolled around there was a clear front runner in both parties. The way things are now, even the outcome of super Tuesday may not produce a clear "winner". IMO the primaries following super Tuesday will be much more hotly contested than normally is the case.
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I thought I started a combined thread on this already. But, go for it MM.
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Old 17-01-2008, 11:57 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Why does it have to go on for so long?! In the UK, there's usually about six weeks of bullshit before everyone gets to vote. In the US, it seems to be over a year.
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I thought I started a combined thread on this already. But, go for it MM.
I thought there was one but somehow I can't find it. Link?
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Old 17-01-2008, 12:37 PM   #9 (permalink)
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The republicans are screwed in '08.

they will be up against...
the seemingly never ending war in iraq
the bush legacy (AKA he who will not be mentioned)
a recession (with the very real possibility of stagflation)
massive amounts of home foreclosures

and the memories of the incompetence exhibited during katrina, the gay sex scandals of mark foley and larry craig, etc... certainly aren't going to bring out the base.

expect a brokered convention where the republican jackals tear each other to threads.

the dems will win the white house---and if it's anyone other than hillary, they'll pick up more seats in the house, and quite possibly a super majority in the senate.
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The republicans are screwed in '08.

they will be up against...
the seemingly never ending war in iraq
the bush legacy (AKA he who will not be mentioned)
a recession (with the very real possibility of stagflation)
massive amounts of home foreclosures
Agree that the above problems are bad, and it may be a tough year economically.

Not good for the incumbent in the Executive office, IMO.

But....don't count out the GOP yet, Ray.

The Democrats have a bad history of Presidential campaigns. partly do to their nominees, partly do to their policies.

Below is a link on the the dirty tricks being used against McCain in South Carolina.

There is a group that is calling South Carolinians and telling them lies about McCain. False, lies. This is much the same as the most dirty tactics played out in the South Carolina Primary in 2000, by GWB. McCain won New Hampshire in 2000, but GWB won in South Carolina and derailed McCain. Racist push-polling.

Below is the article on then, (2000) and now.

McCain fights familiar smears in S.C. - The New York Times - MSNBC.com


P.S. Do posters here think there should be two separate threads on the US election:

A Democrat election thread, and

A Republican election thread?

Or, should this one include the candidates from both parties?
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Old 17-01-2008, 07:13 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Old 18-01-2008, 04:54 PM   #13 (permalink)
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^ Agreed.

Here are two separate links for the (D) and (R) Primaries. I don't like they lay outs. They don't seem user-friendly, but here they are anyway:

D: Democratic Party & - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

R: Republican Party (United States) presidential primaries, 2008 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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THE NEW YORK TIMES reports that Fred Thompson is surging in South Carolina. He's still my favorite over McCain..
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