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Jet Gorgon

^ I know. That's why I thought they were the swing voters -- can vote any way they want. But, if I was a (perish the thought) a Democrat and decided to vote Republican, who would know?

Norton

We're watching you Jettie. We would know.

Jet Gorgon

^ But, Norts, I'm not a liberal, am I?

Bugs

Latest Gallup poll has McCain back in the lead - convention bounce?

Gallup Daily: McCain Moves Ahead, 48% to 45%
McCain - 48
Obama - 45

Back around Aug 24 it was a dead heat, with McCain getting a point or two lead soon after. Obama took back the lead, and his convention bounce pushed him out to as much as an eight point lead. As the red team convention started to get rolling the gap began to narrow. Now McCain has a three point lead.

From eight points down, to a three point lead - not bad John boy, not bad at all.

This poll is kind of interesting to me because it is a three day running average, and thus less likely to spike on whim. That being said it will be interesting to see if McCain can build on his lead.

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panama hat

Nor can you vote, can you . . .

Jet Gorgon

^ Rhetorical Q. Ask Norts to help you understand the meaning.

panama hat

Asking Norton if you are a liberal may have been rhetorical, but that you can't vote isn't.

Actually, mine was rhetorical . . . you're just too clever by half, Jet.

Norton

Deep inside there is a liberal just waiting to burst out.

First indication is your membership on Obama's website. But even more telling is your selection of avs. Grace Slick! No self respecting "conservative" would choose her.

Grace was invited to a tea party by Tricia Nixon for a Finch College alumnae party at the White House in 1969. She invited the political activist Abbie Hoffman to be her escort, and planned to spike President Nixon's tea with LSD. They were denied entry by security but I'm convinced they must have figured out a way to get the LSD in Nixon's tea.

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Boon Mee

Actually. "McCain leads Democrat Barack Obama by 50%-46% among registered voters, the Republican's biggest advantage since January and a turnaround from the USA TODAY poll taken just before the convention opened in St. Paul. Then, he lagged by 7 percentage points.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politic...-07-poll_N.htm

Let's hope the lead widens and BO is summarily chastised for being the arrogant, elitist he is...

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Mr Earl

Actually Inuit is a distinction for esquimo people of the Canadian Arctic. Move west a little they call themselves Inupiat on the north slope on down towards Kotzebue where you get a blend of Inupiat and Yupik esquimo. West central Alaska is the home of the Yupik esquimo. Their culture based on marine mammals is quite distinct from other native american culture. Far more cultured and artistic than one might think. Bethel Alaska (the heart of Yupik country) is considered the "Paris on the Kuskokwim"

raycarey

so, an 11 point swing in a week. doesn't that strike you as the least bit curious? or do you really think that mccain opened up that kind of lead in less than a week?

in short, this is why these type of tracking polls are more or less worthless.

can't you see how foolish this is....

i look forward to reading real, unbiased national polling data taken approximately a week after the final debate.

Norton

Forget the national polls. They don't count for much. Watch the polls in the swing states. They are the key. And yes none of the polls mean much until well into October.

raycarey

^ good point.

britmaveric

^as I've said many time polls are meaningless whether u support Obama or McCain.

Norton

Early on in the campaign polls are for the most part meaningless but as the campaigns move toward the latter stages, they will drive campaign strategies. As Hillary found out, timing is the key. Her surge at the end was because the strategy changed when Obama got a big lead. She changed to late and ran out of time.

Accidental Ajarn

Of course polls "mean something," but yes the election is far from being won by either candidate. What does this big swing in the polls mean? Is it just a post convention bounce? Or is it the turning of the tide?

My opinion? Sarah. Will the love affair with her last? TIME WILL TELL.

Bugs

Gallup reports their daily poll as a three day running average. Thus the numbers reported for McCain are lower for the three day average than the single day numbers reported by USA Today.

The lead might just widen if Obama indeed does back-track on the tax issue. Right now the economy is the strong issue for Obama. If he has to say what many think will actually happen (that he won't push thru the tax package he has been touting if the economy is still weak), it will hurt him IMO. This might be an especially big issue in the debates if the questions fall out just right.

Bugs

I would agree the polls don't really give any real indiation of who will win. But you can bet both teams watch these polls (and conduct their own) and change/ adapt things in their repsective campaigns based upon the polls.

Also they will no doubt base where/how they campaign based upon some of the state-by-state polls as well.

Also big moves in the polls (like the bounce Obama got after the blue team convention, and McCain seems to have gotten after the red team convention) get reported on national news and can effect how folks view the race at hand. This type of move can compond a bounce - say after any one of the debates. If Obama or McCain does really well in any of the up coming debates, and then get a bump in the polls. Folks who didn't even watch the debate can form opinions based upon the press reports of the debate and the effects in the polls.

The polls can also potentially effect voter turn out as well (but not polls this early in the race).

attaboy

How is my observation an example of partisanship? Look at the photo. They have similar facial features. If they were of the same skin color they could be brother and sister. One is white and one is black, that's where skintone conscious uptight anal retentive people squirm. And that is where the humor comes in. You're not calling me a racist, bigoted, know-it-all are you?

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Jet Gorgon

^ They probably are, Atta. It appears that some posters are afraid of being labeled un-PC so they have to attack anyone they perceive as racist. That's why I love injecting a few slurs -- attack their socialist hubris, I say!
OK. I was a lefty liberal in my youth and I loved Grace Slick. I guess I just cannae get over it.
So, since ray carey always chooses Republicans for his av (eg, Mrs McCain, Bush/McC hug, Palin), does that mean he is really NOT a "self respecting" libbie but actually a closet Republican?
Thanks for the culture lesson. Can I just call them whale killers, blubber eaters and Alaskan arabs?
Boy, an 11-point lead for McCain and the libbie queen is squirming and suddenly tracking polls are worthless. 555