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Old 07-09-2008, 02:03 PM   #1741 (permalink)
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Are they all like that?
Thankfully not. Believe it or not CM there are many registered Republicans (and Democrats) that do not resort to spouting partisan slogans and character attacks. In the past they were referred to as "the silent majority". They continue to remain silent amid the din of partisan rhetoric and will, as they always have, determine who will be elected.
Selective listening CMN?

Quite a few posters here see the candidates for what they are.

Obama -- inexperienced, smooth, platform of change
McCain -- old, been around the block, aware of his party's unpopularity
Biden -- frumpy, tenured, complimentary to ticket
Palin -- bizarre, young, fresh-faced

You, on the other hand, seem to have jumped into the Dem pool head first without an inkling of reservation.

Ivor Biggun -- I've entered several countries without a passport as a member of the US military -- including yours, multiple times.

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Old 07-09-2008, 02:22 PM   #1743 (permalink)
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I've entered dozens of countries without a passport as a member of the US military
errrr.......... good for you....but the point is why would the mayor of wasilla be given the same access?

that's right.......she wouldn't.
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Old 07-09-2008, 02:24 PM   #1744 (permalink)
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Don't need a passport on a miltary transport - fk me some people are so thick around here.
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Herman, I've already demonstrated that American's don't necessarily require a passport to leave the country. Get over it.

Would you please explain it to me again ?


If your in charge of the new World Order you definitely need a passport to visit all these countries that you are taking care of. Unless you are looking for weapons of mass destruction...then you are right....
If you are standing in front of my frontdoor with a M16 I would'nt bother asking for your ID.

Actually what I was trying to say is that Palin probably does'nt know which country London, Berlin, Paris belong to. Not to mention who is the prime minister or president of those countries.
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Don't need a passport on a miltary transport - fk me some people are so thick around here.
for christ's sake brit, what does that have to do with the mayor of wasilla, alaska?

when was palin (when she was the mayor of wasilla) on military transport travelling abroad?

here, let me help you out......NEVER.
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If your in charge of the new World Order you definitely need a passport to visit all these countries that you are taking care of.
She's running for vice president. Not Supreme Leader of the planet.
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Actually what I was trying to say is that Palin probably does'nt know which country London, Berlin, Paris belong to. Not to mention who is the prime minister or president of those countries.
I'd say she does. Her little "country" is more than half the size of Europe.
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Don't need a passport on a miltary transport - fk me some people are so thick around here.

Traveling on a military plane, getting off it to shake some soldiers hands, is not what I call experience in foreign policy.



I hope history repeats itself. In the 1984 Miss Alaska contest, Sarah Palin lost to Marilyne Blackburn, the first African-American Miss Alaska.
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^Hope all ya want there Herman but this chick is hot and it'll take a lot more than the whimpy Leftards smears thus far to bring her down! Heh...



"Pompous, polished, under-performing Democrat pols meet down-to-earth, mom-of-five, rifle-toting, corruption-shredding, tenacious Governor Sarah, the taxpayers' best friend."

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Old 07-09-2008, 11:55 PM   #1750 (permalink)
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Most polls still have Obama in the lead, there is one out there that has it tied up. And Zogby has McCain now in the lead.

Here are a few polls:

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/po...ity%20poll.pdf

This one appears to be attempting to tell the blue team how they can make-up some ground on the national security issue. But what they say seems to be exactly what the blue team has already been doing, and they have been loosing ground.

From the linky:
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Which party will better handle National security:
Red team - 49
Blue team - 35
Which party will better handle combatting terrorism:
Red team - 48
Blue team - 33
According to the poll the blue team was gaining ground on this issue from mid '03 all the way thru until around Oct '07 (they took a hit around Dec '06 but had been recovering). Ever since Oct '07 the blue team has been loosing ground on this issue.

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Which party do you associate more with the term "Too hesitant to use force"?
Likely voters:
Red team: 21
Blue team: 59
Undecideds:
Red team: 11
Blue team: 59
The report in regard to the poll seems to count these numbers against the blue team. But I don't think it is bad for the leaders to be hesitant to use force.

A couple of quotes included in the report on the hesitancy to use force:

From a Democratic man, Virginia Beach:
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Democrates don't want to win. They don't want to kick ass.
From an Independent Woman, Virginia Beach:
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If there was a bully in the play yard that's going to throw dirt in my face, I think the Democrats might let him go just to get along but the Republicans wouldn't and they'll standup for this country a little bit better than Democrats will.
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Do you think the Democrats or the Republicans would do a better job of ensuring a strong military?
Red team - 57
Blue team - 27
Both/Neither - 16
The report indicates that most Americans feel the Democrats follow the polls, not their principles:

A quote from an independent man, Columbus:
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You are on a teeter totter (with the Democrats0. Okay, today the wind is blowing this way so I'm going to be able to go here. Tomorrow, the wind will change direction and I'll go over here.
This is another point where I am not so sure this is completely a negative. Will it is good for one to stand by their principles. There is also a point at which elected officials have to consider the feelings/ principles of those who have elected them as well. Not a clear picture either way because I think there certainly are situation where one should stand by their convitions come hell or high water, while there are others in which they should possibly conceed to the wishes of those that have elected them.

The main things those whole completed this report think need to be done for the blue team to take back ground on this issue are:
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Define the Republican approach as "reckless and out of touch"
Define the Democratic approach as "tough and smart"
Which it seems to me have already been the points the blue team have been using all along - yet they still seem to be loosing ground.

A couple of more posts with polls to follow.
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This one is from NBC/WSJ:
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/se...J_Released.pdf

Basics has Obama (45) leading McCain (42).

But the intersting bit is the break-down in regard to issues.

Here is the basics in the issues break-down;
Obama Better/ McCain Better - issue:
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48 / 27 - Health care
47 / 21 - Environment and global warming
47 / 25 - Jobs and unemployment
42 / 30 - Improving the economy
39 / 32 - Energy and the cost of gas
38 / 39 - Taxes
36 / 46 - The situation in Iraq
35 / 25 - The mortgage and housing crisis
34 / 32 - Social Security
31 / 33 - Issues related to moral values
27 / 34 - Illegal immigration
27 / 52 - International crises such as Iran or Russia and the nation of Georgia
23 / 51 - Terrorism
Obama 7 - McCain 6
With these kinds of results I think if I were running things from the blue team I would minimize comments related to the areas they poll poorly on - like Iraq and Iran, and even bin Laden and Afghanistan (terrorism). Try to kep the focus on the economy.

On the flip side for McCain I think they need to attack the lead Obama has right now on the economy.
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One last post (for now) related to poll numbers.

Zogby poll:
Zogby International
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The Ticket Horserace:
Sept 5/6
McCain-Palin - 49.7
Obama-Biden - 45.9
Others/ Not sure - 4.4%

One-on-One Horserace:
McCain 48.8%
Obama 45.7%
Others/ Not sure 5.5%
Seems Palin has helped - at least according to this poll.
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BO Suddenly Remembers: He Almost Joined the Military!

He’s never mentioned it before, not even in two autobiographies, but Barack Obama has suddenly remembered that he considered joining the military.
Obama disclosed that he had once considered serving in the military.


“You know, I actually did,” Obama said. “I had to sign up for Selective Service when I graduated from high school. And I was growing up in Hawaii. And I have friends whose parents were in the military. There are a lot of Army, military bases there.

“And I actually always thought of the military as an ennobling and, you know, honorable option. But keep in mind that I graduated in 1979. The Vietnam War had come to an end. We weren’t engaged in an active military conflict at that point. And so, it’s not an option that I ever decided to pursue.”


Just one problem with Obama’s little story.
Registration for selective service was not reinstated until 1980.


Thanks to LGF


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Old 08-09-2008, 03:33 AM   #1754 (permalink)
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Ahh BO telling porkies again?
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Are they all like that?
Thankfully not. Believe it or not CM there are many registered Republicans (and Democrats) that do not resort to spouting partisan slogans and character attacks. In the past they were referred to as "the silent majority". They continue to remain silent amid the din of partisan rhetoric and will, as they always have, determine who will be elected.
I thought the independents decided?
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what is it about this place that attracts them?
Beating up privileged, spoiled, little white boys from Pennsylvania.
Ahhh. So that's my other calling. I notice how all the lefties have vanished now the new dirt is out on Obama. Quick, rc, painai, go make up some new fluff on McC and Palin! They are such busy little bees.
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Ahh BO telling porkies again?
What a sorry downward spiral BO has taken since encountering a plain housewife 'tell it like it is' chick in the form of Barracudasarah, eh?
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what is it about this place that attracts them?
They may indulge their so-called "free speech" here, say want they want however vile and repulsive, and insult all and sundry all day and specially night long.
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what is it about this place that attracts them?
They may indulge their so-called "free speech" here, say want they want however vile and repulsive, and insult all and sundry all day and specially night long.

It's all they have.
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I thought the independents decided?
Independents=silent majority. Most "independents" are non committed registered Dems or Reps!
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