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Old 04-09-2008, 05:36 PM   #1661 (permalink)
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The artical Norton posted might have been from Sept 3rd, but reports were out about this as early as Sept 2, which means the main stream press started posting this at least two days ago.
'at least two days ago"

oh sorry about that.



so i guess you're never going to make another post about rev. wright or ayers? if memory serves, you put up some stuff about that just a few weeks ago.

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As I understand it she said this in Church in June, and it was posted on the Church website. So it has been out there for folks to see for months. No reason for anyone to report on it until after McCain picked her.
what a load of crap.

there was no reason for anyone to look until after mccain picked her.

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Old 04-09-2008, 05:37 PM   #1662 (permalink)
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Funny bit is both teams are doing it, and both teams seem to think god really wants them to win more than the other team.
Ain't it the truth. God is a big factor in America. Separation between religion and politics is non existent. So far the country has done pretty good at separating religion and the state but it to is slowly creeping in. Dangerous stuff if the founding fathers can be believed.
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Old 05-09-2008, 05:59 AM   #1663 (permalink)
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NBC's Andrea Mitchell's meltdown after Rudy's & Sarah's speeches!

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Old 05-09-2008, 09:36 AM   #1664 (permalink)
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Old 05-09-2008, 09:39 AM   #1665 (permalink)
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I hope she is wearing the 280K earrings.
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Old 05-09-2008, 09:42 AM   #1666 (permalink)
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Are they on loan like for the Oscars? Besides what do you care if she actually owns them? You could own a pair too if you ever came up with an idea which would help make people's lives easier or safer or more comfortable... use your brain and think of something.
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Old 05-09-2008, 09:45 AM   #1667 (permalink)
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I do own a pair. my daddy made a fortune on booze and when he croaked I bought them.

They are so very lovely. I clip them on my nipples.

Oh, and please call me kunt like my new daddy does.

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Old 05-09-2008, 10:37 AM   #1668 (permalink)
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Why would I want to do that?
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Because you are a reactionary?
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McCain gave a crap speech. He will lose big time if this is the best he can do.
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The dude cannot speak, its that simple. This is why Obama has to debate him.
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Old 05-09-2008, 11:42 AM   #1672 (permalink)
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Speeches aren't his strong point - everyone knows this. Debates - dare say Obama will be schooled.
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^ TThe messiah doesn't do very well without a scrip and his tele-promter.

I thought the McCain speech was fine.
I especially like the part about leading following or getting out of the way. The issue of energy independance is very big and has very large worldwide economic implications.
We should be paying close attention to what's going on here. I thinks.
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Old 05-09-2008, 04:38 PM   #1674 (permalink)
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so i guess you're never going to make another post about rev. wright or ayers? if memory serves, you put up some stuff about that just a few weeks ago.
I’m not sure how the Palin comments are comparable to the Rev Wright, with the exception that they are both related to religion?

Rev Wright has been shown to be a pretty controversial character, and even Obama has thrown him to the curb.


As I explained in an earlier post what Palin said is not really very extreme when one considers it was coming from a person that appears to be devout in her religion. It is really pretty common for folks regardless or race, gender, or party, in the US, who are devoutly religious to claim god is on their side – Or that they are carrying out acts with the support or in the name of god.

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As I understand it she said this in Church in June, and it was posted on the Church website. So it has been out there for folks to see for months. No reason for anyone to report on it until after McCain picked her.
what a load of crap.

there was no reason for anyone to look until after mccain picked her.
Having problems with reading comprehension there RC? I posted basically the same thing (that there was no reason to report on it until after McCain picked her), and you even included my comment in your reply.

First you called is a "load of crap", and then you repeated part of what I said stated a bit differently? So I guess you feel the load of crap part was the bit you did not rephrase?
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didnt see the mccain speech -- anymore characterizations from those did?
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how did they handle her stealing prescription drugs from poor people to fix her jones?

i wish i'd seen the 'home wrecker' montage.
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Old 05-09-2008, 04:45 PM   #1677 (permalink)
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didnt see the mccain speech -- anymore characterizations from those did?
Didn't see it either but was just reading about it then. Does this:

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McCain speech denounces 'partisan rancour'
ST. PAUL, Minnesota - Republican John McCain accepted the Republican presidential nomination today, warning Washington politicians that "change is coming" and denouncing the "partisan rancor" he said was gripping the country's ruling establishment.


The four-term Arizona senator was met with extended applause from delegates to the Republican National Convention and guests crammed into the Excel Energy Center and declared himself the only choice for voters who want an end to gridlock in Washington and the tradition of politicians "who work for themselves and not you"...
McCain speech denounces 'partisan rancour' - 05 Sep 2008 - NZ Herald: World / International News

sound familiar? Apparently he 'borrowed' rather liberally from Obama.
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Funny bit is both teams are doing it, and both teams seem to think god really wants them to win more than the other team.
Ain't it the truth. God is a big factor in America. Separation between religion and politics is non existent. So far the country has done pretty good at separating religion and the state but it to is slowly creeping in. Dangerous stuff if the founding fathers can be believed.
Like many people my views on religion have evolved over time. And I am moving to a point where I am practically becoming anti-religion. Of course this does not sit well with most folks on the red team. But generally speaking I don’t get too much hassle over it.

In reality I think most of the blue team are far more liberated when it comes to religion. But I think they pander quite a bit in regard to religion as well. This really is a sad thing, because until a significant portion of the US population become more tolerant in this regard things aren’t likely to improve.

I give my sister a hard time occasionally about forcing religion on her kids. I am willing to accept that grown adults should have the right to choose to believe in fairy tails. But I think it borders on child abuse to indoctrinate the youth of America into what I feel are basically big cults of fantasy.
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McCain gave a crap speech. He will lose big time if this is the best he can do.
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The dude cannot speak, its that simple.
these comments intrigued me, also.
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