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Boon Mee

Heh...you really have to enjoy this election - The Telegraph quotes “a senior Democrat” saying that Bill Clinton told friends if Barack Obama wants his support, Obama will have to “kiss my ass.”

Norton

I wonder if he expected the same from Monica?

But the link hardly convinces me Clinton said Obama would have to kiss his ass.

"One person told me that Bill said Obama would have to quote kiss my ass close quote, if he wants his support."

redfoot the fence

well spotted, robert.

Milkman

We discussed the influence of the Low-Info Voter. And here's an article about influencing the low-info voters.

Link & Entire: Obama rumors fly in Flag City USA - Washington Post - MSNBC.com

Texpat

Sounds to me like he's sifting through the garbage and reaching his own conclusions. He's admitted a smart vote is a high responsibility and he's doing what he can to ensure his is based on the best facts he can find.

Does one have to be at it 6-hours a day to be a high-info voter?

Do you consider yourself a high-info voter Milk? Tell the truth, you're not a voter at all, are you?

This guy is a typical voter. You're just making this shit up to try and smear low-intellect (military) types. He's everything you despise isn't he Milk?

Still, full of shit. It ain't working.

Texpat

Received this e-mail from American Citizen Services the US Embassy today:

Overseas Absentee Voting

Act now to register to vote and request an absentee ballot for the 2008 presidential and general elections!

Eligibility to Vote

Generally, all U.S. citizens 18 years or older who are residing outside the United States during an election period are eligible to vote absentee in any election for Federal office. Some states allow overseas voters to vote in state and local elections as well.

Voting eligibility and residency requirements are determined by the various U.S. states, and are available on-line at http://fvap.gov/pubs/vag.html. Your "legal state of residence" for voting purposes is the state where you last resided immediately prior to departure from the United States. Voting rights extend to overseas citizens even though they may no longer own property or have other ties to their last state of residence, and even if their intent to return to that state may be uncertain. For those who have never resided in the United States, sixteen states allow certain U.S. citizens to register where a parent or spouse would be eligible to vote.

Voter Registration & Requesting an Absentee Ballot

Voters who have not yet registered to vote and requested an absentee ballot should do so now.

1. Complete the Federal Post Card Application (FPCA) using the instructions for your state in the Voting Assistance Guide. You may pick up a hard copy of the FPCA from any U.S. Embassy or Consulate, or use the online version.

2. Sign, date and mail the completed FPCA to the address listed in the Voting Assistance Guide. If you are sending the FPCA through international mail, please affix appropriate airmail postage. Alternatively, you can print out a postage-paid address label and ask any U.S. Embassy or Consulate to send your FPCA postage-paid through diplomatic pouch or the military postal service. Some states allow voters to send in the FPCA by fax, but they also require you to send in the hard copy by mail. Follow your state’s regulations precisely.

3. Send in a new FPCA if you have moved or changed your name since the last time you voted.

4. Check your state’s voter registration verification website (http://fvap.gov/vao/stregissites.html), or follow up directly with your local election officials, to confirm that you are registered.

Voting

Your local voting officials should mail your absentee ballot 30 to 45 days before the November 4 general election. Return your voted ballot as early as possible. Be aware of your state’s ballot receipt deadline, as well as any postmarking requirements.

Milkman

IMO, no not at all. It's the sources that matter, not how much time one spends perusing and canvassing the issues.

I cannot judge myself, because that would be biased. In 1993, when I took a series of tests, the results claimed I was on the higher end. But, I'm a political/economic/news junkie, who follows this....exciting?....stuff.

I voted in my first national and local election when I was 18 years old. I have voted ever since. I will be voting again for this national, congressional, and local round.



I don't know what "typical," is. I'd have to see extensive polling data.

No offense to this man, but he doesn't seem very well informed. And people like him are a huge demographic, that both parties are aiming to win favor over. It works this way in many countries.

I don't recall the article saying he was in the military. Therefore, he's not what I'd call a "military type," which are your words. I am not sure what you mean by this term. I've never heard of it.

You're a poorly informed poster. You contribute little. You make general statements, but often omit details nor add specifics to reinforce your opinion.

This is OK, Tex. The rest of the board reads your posts, too.

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Boon Mee

Heh...

Obama's for Equal Pay, Yet Pays Female Staffers Less Than Males. "That is in contrast to Republican presidential candidate John McCain's Senate office, where women, for the most part, out-rank and are paid more than men."

Yeah, right...

Boon Mee

Another Heh:

The Saddest Thing About Barack Obama's Available Military Expertise...

...is that though he has Wes Clark in his corner, the only person he knows with the experience of getting a bomb on target is Bill Ayers.

BO's the MAN!

attaboy

Obama rumors fly in Flag City USA - Washington Post - MSNBC.com


I see a journalist who fancies himself a novelist. Journalists tell a 'story'. Peter Jennings used to say we bring you the 'story'. From what I remember of my English grammar, 'story' is not the truth. Story is nearer the truth then myth or legend. It can be based on facts but it is not necessarily the truth. I think the Washington Post printed a journalist's story.

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Boon Mee

Censorship big-time! Google shuts down websites critical of BO!

Blue Lyon [at] Blue Lyon
Come A Long Way [at] Come A Long Way . . .
Hillary or Bust [at] Hillary or Bust
McCain Democrats [at] McCAIN DEM/CLINTON REPUBLICAN
NObama Blog [at] NObama - Not Now, Not Ever
politicallizard.blogspot.com [at] The Political Lizard Annex
Reflections in Tyme [at] Reflections in Tyme

Welcome to Brave New World.
Huxley's rolling over in his grave...

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Jet Gorgon

^ Google or other teams?

Bugs

Is Pandering the Key to Election Success? | Newsweek Global Literacy | Newsweek.com

This is a bit of an interesting articale from Newsweek about the apparent need for candidates to do the flippity-floppity dance in order to win.

I'll take a candidate to task on some flip-flops and yet I am willing to applaud them for others. On long standing issues like gun rights I don't really have much tolerance for flip-flopping, as it is unlikely that something new or illuminating will develop to allow one to change their point of view on the issue. On the other hand on issues like taxes I would be more willing to forgive a flip-flop as I can see justification for change/revision of one's position depending upon economic conditions at a given point in time.

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Norton

The term flip flop is used in an attempt by both sides to imply a candidate can not be trusted to stick to his word no matter how much the reality of a given situation has changed. Both McCain and Obama have been characterized as outside the main stream of their respective parties. As the campaign moves forward both will move to a more centrist position. Neither will lose significant support from the far wings of their party but both know the election will be won or lost on getting votes from the "middle".

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chinthee

Yes, I'll agree with this, and also with flip-flopping on health care, and even the economy. These are such huge, multi-dimensional and complex problems that no candidate can ever hope to articulate the correct end-game position on large issues like these. I do agree with you that fundamental rights like gun control, same sex marriage, pro-choice, and other such issues are not flip-flop-able...., so to speak.

Jet Gorgon

Obama is doing flippies on everything from Iraq pull-out times to free-trade issues. Seems to be based on which states he's pandering to. Political wolf in big hope sheep's clothing. The more he talks, the less I like him.

Milkman

He has to flip. He has to pander to interest groups.

If a candidate doesn't he/she doesn't get elected. Sad but true. In the USA, this started at least back in the 1830s. Democracy? Not the slightest, at the Federal level.

Butterfly

GW Bush, like his father, was a pretty big flip flop, and yet I didn't notice any conservatives outcry over his many flip flop,

Milkman

Definitely. People are so partisan and so biased they usually apply the "flip-flop" label to those they oppose. All politicians flip-flop at the Federal level. Presidential and Congressional candidates.

As I stated before, some issues are so complex that the candidate will flip-flop on it in a very calculated manner.

Texpat

Has it ever occurred to you that people sometimes, genuinely, have a change of heart or a change of mind? Why is that so sinister?

I don't want a leader so rigid and unyielding that he/she is unwilling to change positions if the situation warrants.