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Old 04-06-2008, 04:14 PM   #1321 (permalink)
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Oppression at it's WORST.
Hang your head in SHAME!
Oh the humiliation, the disgrace!

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out of a total population of 4,000,000 there are approximately 30,000 non-whites of which about 700 are native born.
And not ONE OF THEM is qualified to even campaign to be your leader? How many thousands of years has your country oppressed those of color?

Errr, no years. Give us time, though. (we've got to get rid of the fekkin' poles, albanians, and ukranians first).
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Old 04-06-2008, 04:15 PM   #1322 (permalink)
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^^ Lighten up, Francis. It's a joke.

I'm American. We don't piss and moan about other countries' politics, unless provoked.

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Old 04-06-2008, 04:23 PM   #1323 (permalink)
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^ She is in the Senate, not congress.
The Senate is part of Congress. Technically the term "Congress" refers to the bicameral legislature consisting of both the House of Representatives and the Senate.
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Old 04-06-2008, 04:40 PM   #1324 (permalink)
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WASHINGTON (AP) - Hillary Rodham Clinton told colleagues Tuesday she would consider joining Barack Obama as his running mate, and advisers said she was withholding a formal departure from the race partly to use her remaining leverage to press for a spot on the ticket.

On a conference call with other New York lawmakers, Clinton, a New York senator, said she was willing to become Obama's vice presidential nominee if it would help Democrats win the White House, according to several participants in the call.
A bit of a pickle Hillary is putting Obama in right now. At a time the party should be uniting behind him she has not offically conceeded and is doing anything but working to unite the party.

If Obama picks her I don't see how he can possibly continue with the same campaign message he has built his candidacy on - that of change.

We have been hearing over and over again for at least the past month about how Hillary supporters feel they are being ignored and/or not fairly represented (Hillary even made a point of this in her speech from NY last night). Now that she has let it be known that she would accept the VP slot if Obama does not pick her he risks alienating many of her hard-core supporters.

While to some degree taking in Hillary as a running mate makes since from a statistical view point - brings in the female vote, and the working class. From a fundamental message point of view Hillary is about as far from the Obama message as one could be and still be a member of the blue team.

IMHO Obama giving Hillary the nod for VP would decimate his message of change and give credence to the view that he is no different than any other politician.
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Old 04-06-2008, 05:13 PM   #1325 (permalink)
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^Bugs, you be da man.

Hilary is a desperate, grasping opportunist.

Of course she would take the VP slot if offered. I hope Barak would not offer it to this slut, bitch of a politician. Let him stand on his own merits or not.
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Old 04-06-2008, 10:13 PM   #1326 (permalink)
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Doubtful most of the Hillary supporters dont want Osama, even if Hillderbeast is on the ticket as VP. Osama has a major problem.
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Old 04-06-2008, 10:36 PM   #1327 (permalink)
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According to the Polls, he has the advantage. But it's close enough to be no preordained conclusion.
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Old 04-06-2008, 10:37 PM   #1328 (permalink)
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Obama has a major problem.
what's that?

that he isn't a 70 year old cancer patient who is running for GWB's third term?
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Old 05-06-2008, 02:01 AM   #1329 (permalink)
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I don't think she's a gambler. That's is to say she won't run for NY governor and then run against McCain's VP come 2012. She won't give up her powerful and prestigious Senate seat to make a risky run at the presidency from the NY governor position. She'll stay in Congress and work her way up the ladder of power within the Senate.
Hopefully, their presidential ambitions are finished.

She won't be the VP. Bill has proven himself to be a major liability. He is so egotistical that he would be constant embarrassment. Obama doesn't need to spend his time as president explaining what Bill meant by his words or actions. He doesn't need to spend his time cleaning up after Bill. Bill has the attitude that if you don't like what I,m doing why did you offer to have me over. He is who he is and he's not going to change for anyone else's sake. He is selfish and self-indulgent to the max.

Eventually, Bill's chummy attitude he uses to barge into your party, wedding, funeral, etc. will stop being novel. Can a sixty year old man be a wedding crasher? Is it still hip, cool and irreverent at that age?

The last day of the campaign, South Dakota and Montana are voting, and he can't keep his mouth shut. He has to call the author of the Vanity Fair article a "scumbag". He doesn't know when to shut up. He doesn't realize that it isn't his world. The other people around you are real, Bill, they live and breath too. For the sake of other people shut up Bill.

Hillary and Bill should have no official or unofficial position in the Obama administration that Bill Clinton can exploit and bring embarrassment to.
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Old 05-06-2008, 02:10 AM   #1330 (permalink)
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Atta, you're going to hurt some people's feelings here. Can you be a little more gentle?

TD can't handle such honesty.
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Old 05-06-2008, 02:28 AM   #1331 (permalink)
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^ The ripest time for taking shots at Bill is getting down to moments. I'm sure Bill will pop up on the scene in the future, but now is ripe.
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Old 05-06-2008, 02:24 PM   #1332 (permalink)
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a black man has a real chance of being president. as far as i know, this has never happened in any other western (ie white) nation...but it happened in america....and i hope that citizens of the UK, australia, canada, ireland and NZ will follow america's lead and seriously consider non-whites for the highest political office.
Dream on. It would be wonderful if there was no racism, but it has not gone away. Won't happen.
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She is in the Senate, not congress.
poor jet.....your woeful ignorance of american politics is on display again.

there are two chambers in congress....the house of representatives and the senate.
Yes, I know that, dear ray. But she is a senator not a congresswoman. You've been missing from the board lately; the tefl masters barring your internet access?
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Old 05-06-2008, 03:05 PM   #1333 (permalink)
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Dream on. It would be wonderful if there was no racism, but it has not gone away. Won't happen.
once all the caustic, dessicated spinsters have finally kicked the bucket there's a much better chance of society moving forward.

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Yes, I know that, dear ray. But she is a senator not a congresswoman.
so if you know it, why did you post what you posted? eh jet?
here's some free, unsolicited advice...once again you've been caught displaying your ignorance of american politics....don't exacerbate the situation with you usual, misguided obstinacy.


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You've been missing from the board lately;
what's this? on top of everything else, you're a masochist?
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Old 05-06-2008, 03:53 PM   #1334 (permalink)
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something to consider regarding her chances for VP....

every possible VP (and his/her spouse) will undergo an exhaustive vetting process before getting the nod.

there's no way bill clinton is going to allow that...the conventional wisdom is that the donor list to his library is full of problems.
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Old 05-06-2008, 07:51 PM   #1336 (permalink)
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Atta, you're going to hurt some people's feelings here. Can you be a little more gentle? TD can't handle such honesty.
It's only a few individuals whose 'feelings' for their nation and heros frequently get hurt, isn't it, Tex?
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Old 05-06-2008, 08:25 PM   #1337 (permalink)
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Old 07-06-2008, 07:45 AM   #1338 (permalink)
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Here you go:
(from the BO campaigners)

In the excitement of the past few days, there's some news you may have missed.
John McCain and the Republican National Committee released their fundraising numbers for May, and we've got our work cut out for us.
The McCain campaign raised $21 million, which will be combined with $23.7 million raised in partnership with the Republican National Committee.
That's nearly $45 million dollars in one month -- money that will be used to attack Barack Obama and support John McCain's effort to extend the policies of George W. Bush for another four years.
We need to respond quickly and show that we are ready to take on Senator McCain in the general election.
Now is the time to take the next step and own a piece of this campaign.
If you make a $25 donation today, your gift will be matched by a previous donor who has agreed to give again. You can even choose to exchange a note with them about why you support Barack.
Help reach the goal of 10,000 first-time donors and build our movement to take on John McCain:
https://donate.barackobama.com/match
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Who will be both candidates' VP?
It would be interesting if the Democrat Obama chooses Chuck Hagel (R-Nebraska) and the Republican McCain chooses Joseph Lieberman (D-Israel), with each vice presidential candidate being from the opposing party. It's not as far fetched as it seems, since both candidates are looking to bring in that huge pool of disaffected independent voters. Except for his anti-war and pro-privacy positions, the war hero Hagel is a younger, smarter and more charismatic version of McCain. Based on that psychology alone, Hagel would be a great choice for Obama.
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Old 09-06-2008, 12:38 PM   #1340 (permalink)
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That man is a disgrace, should be shot
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