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Old 04-06-2008, 10:26 AM   #1301 (permalink)
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Hillary ready to be Obama's running mate!
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Old 04-06-2008, 10:49 AM   #1302 (permalink)
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^Looks that way. It's too bad - almost like Obama is being forced to offer her the VP position. It might actually weaken the ticket rather than strengthen it because of how many people really hate Hillary.
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Old 04-06-2008, 11:38 AM   #1303 (permalink)
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Clinton says she's open to being Obama's VP

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June 3

WASHINGTON (AP) - Hillary Rodham Clinton told colleagues Tuesday she would consider joining Barack Obama as his running mate, and advisers said she was withholding a formal departure from the race partly to use her remaining leverage to press for a spot on the ticket.

On a conference call with other New York lawmakers, Clinton, a New York senator, said she was willing to become Obama's vice presidential nominee if it would help Democrats win the White House, according to several participants in the call.

Clinton's remarks came in response to a question from Democratic Rep. Nydia Velazquez, who said she believed the best way for Obama to win key voting blocs, including Hispanics, would be for him to choose Clinton as his running mate.

"I am open to it," Clinton replied, if it would help the party's prospects in November. Her direct quote was described by two lawmakers who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak for Clinton.

Clinton also told colleagues the delegate math was not there for her to overtake Obama, but that she wanted to take time to determine how to leave the race in a way that would best help Democrats.

"I deserve some time to get this right," she said, even as the other lawmakers forcefully argued for her to press Obama to choose her as his running mate.

Joseph Crowley, a Queens Democrat who participated in the call, said her answer "left open the possibility that she would do anything that she can to contribute toward a Democratic victory in November. There was no hedging on that. Whatever she can do to contribute, she was willing to do."

Another person on the call, Rep. Jose Serrano of New York City, said her answer was "just what I was hoping to hear. ... Of course she was interested in being president, but she's just as interested in making sure Democrats get elected in November."

Rep. Charles Rangel, a devoted booster of Clinton who helped pave the way for her successful Senate campaign, said he spoke to her Tuesday and got much the same answer.

"She's run a great campaign and even though she'll be a great senator, she has a lot of followers that obviously Obama doesn't have, and clearly the numbers are against her and so I think they bring all parts of the Democratic Party together and then some," Rangel said.

Aides to the Illinois senator said he and Clinton had not spoken about the prospects of her joining the ticket.

Obama effectively sewed up the 2,118 delegates needed to win the nomination Tuesday, based on a tally of pledged delegates, superdelegates who have declared their preference, and another 18 superdelegates who have confirmed their intentions to The Associated Press. It also included five delegates Obama was guaranteed as long as he gained 15 percent of the vote in South Dakota and Montana later in the day.

Word of Clinton's vice presidential musings came as she prepared to deliver a televised address to supporters on the final night of the epic primary season. She was working out final details of the speech at her Chappaqua, N.Y., home with her husband, former President Bill Clinton, their daughter Chelsea, and close aides.

Earlier, on NBC's "Today Show," Clinton campaign chairman Terry McAuliffe said that once Obama gets the majority of convention delegates, "I think Hillary Clinton will congratulate him and call him the nominee."

Clinton will pledge to continue to speak out on issues like health care. But for all intents and purposes, two senior officials said, her campaign is over.

Most campaign staff will be let go and will be paid through June 15, said the officials who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to divulge her plans.

The advisers said Clinton has made a strategic decision to not formally end her campaign, giving her leverage to negotiate with Obama on various matters including a possible vice presidential nomination for her. She also wants to press him on issues he should focus on in the fall, such as health care.

Universal health care, Clinton's signature issue as first lady in the was a point of dispute between Obama and the New York senator during their epic nomination fight.

Other names have been floated as possible running mates for Obama, including New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards, and governors including Janet Napolitano of Arizona, Kathleen Sebelius of Kansas and Tim Kaine of Virginia. Also mentioned are foreign policy experts including former Georgia Sen. Sam Nunn, Connecticut Sen. Chris Dodd and Delaware Sen. Joe Biden, and other senators such as Missouri's Claire McCaskill and Virginia's Jim Webb.

Obama could also look outside the party to people such as anti-war Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska or independent New York Mayor Mike Bloomberg. Or he could look to one of his prominent supporters such as former Sen. Tom Daschle of South Dakota or try to bring on a Clinton supporter, such as Indiana's Sen. Evan Bayh or retired Gen. Wesley Clark.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D912S1AG4&show_article=1&catnum=-1

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Old 04-06-2008, 11:57 AM   #1304 (permalink)
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i can't imagine he'll choose her....she carries too much baggage---especially her husband. and she's even attempted to grab the spotlight tonight...a night when he secured the nomination, she is stealing the headlines.

i heard something earlier that i think warrants repeating here.

a black man has a real chance of being president. as far as i know, this has never happened in any other western (ie white) nation...but it happened in america....and i hope that citizens of the UK, australia, canada, ireland and NZ will follow america's lead and seriously consider non-whites for the highest political office.

for all it's faults, this is a great day for america and its citizens should be proud.

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Old 04-06-2008, 12:02 PM   #1305 (permalink)
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Easy on Ray. You sound like -- like your av looks.

Best candidate wins the nomination, nothing new there.

And it ain't over yet.
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Old 04-06-2008, 12:04 PM   #1306 (permalink)
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When Osama loses - I can see the headlines.... Yankland still racist!!
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Old 04-06-2008, 12:06 PM   #1307 (permalink)
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this is a great day for america and its citizens should be proud.
Yeh, may as well pause and take a bow America, before Round Two commences.
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Old 04-06-2008, 12:22 PM   #1308 (permalink)
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If Obama wins the presidency

... and he's a good one, it'll be a victory for humanity and prove that there are no barriers and spell the end of equal opportunity and affirmative action across the country. Black and whites dancing in the streets, holding hands and rejoicing the victory of our savior and King of America, Barrack Obama!

... and turns out to be a turd, blacks will dismiss him as being half white.
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Old 04-06-2008, 12:45 PM   #1309 (permalink)
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i can't imagine he'll choose her....she carries too much baggage---especially her husband. and she's even attempted to grab the spotlight tonight...a night when he secured the nomination, she is stealing the headlines.
Solid point.

I think he's got a short list and is reviewing backgrounds of others. If a non-Hillary match can be found, and accepted, he'll go for someone else. Somebody who can appeal to the Center-Independent base, perhaps.

Hillary does have high negatives, and yes, Bill Clinton will seem to be around the corner a lot, IMO.

It's finally getting interesting again, IMO.

Who will be both candidates' VP?
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Old 04-06-2008, 12:50 PM   #1310 (permalink)
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McCain/Rumsfeld.

Got my vote.
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Old 04-06-2008, 12:55 PM   #1311 (permalink)
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^ So you do want Obama to win.
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McCain is a Dem in GOP clothing.
Obama is a novelty, a gimmick. Voters are nominating him carte blanche.

I'm not overly impressed with either. But also understand that a president is merely a figurehead. The heavy lifting is done by others.
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I'm not overly impressed with either. But also understand that a president is merely a figurehead. The heavy lifting is done by others.
Yes, the Exec needs to appoint level-headed and experienced advisers and cabinet members. Same with the bureaucracies: appointments of the Heads (Secretaries) and the #2, 3, 4th positions within State, DoD, NSC, HHS, Treasury, and other areas.

This is an area I think GWB did very poorly on. (But it's a moot point, now.)
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McCain is a Dem in GOP clothing.
nice try.

check his voting record for '07 and '08.
he's a bush clone.

mccain in 2000 was a different story, but this is 2008 and he's a shadow of his 'maverick' self.
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Old 04-06-2008, 02:42 PM   #1315 (permalink)
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Obama's hope rhetoric reminds me of a shampoo advertisement that exudes the quality of managability. How does managability figure in selling shampoo? Can you hold a piece of managability up so I can see it? I'm not too sure about this concept.

Change is also a two-way street. For each lane headed to the promised land, there's another headed the other way.
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Old 04-06-2008, 02:52 PM   #1316 (permalink)
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^ She is in the Senate, not congress.
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a black man has a real chance of being president. as far as i know, this has never happened in any other western (ie white) nation...but it happened in america....and i hope that citizens of the UK, australia, canada, ireland and NZ will follow america's lead and seriously consider non-whites for the highest political office.

Give us a break, Ireland doesn't have enough non-whites to go around, out of a total population of 4,000,000 there are approximately 30,000 non-whites of which about 700 are native born. We don't have any barriers towards non-whites taking high office - none have tried yet. That'll probably be in the next generation.
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Oppression at it's WORST.
Hang your head in SHAME!
Oh the humiliation, the disgrace!

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out of a total population of 4,000,000 there are approximately 30,000 non-whites of which about 700 are native born.
And not ONE OF THEM is qualified to even campaign to be your leader? How many thousands of years has your country oppressed those of color?

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Why would they try in such a racist, hate-filled environment? Shame Ireland SHAME!!
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She is in the Senate, not congress.
poor jet.....your woeful ignorance of american politics is on display again.

there are two chambers in congress....the house of representatives and the senate.

perhaps there should be a canadian politics sub-forum so jet could make some informative posts?




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fair enough, i was just trying to list all the nationalities that post here in issues....and btw, i suppose i should have listed germany too.
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And not ONE OF THEM is qualified to even campaign to be your leader? How many thousands of years has your country oppressed those of color?
What are the statistic chances? You do the math.
Ireland is not the US.
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