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Old 07-05-2008, 01:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Super Tuesday results are almost in. Obama has won N. Carolina, and Indiana is a close race, with Hilary leading slightly, but he's only trailing her by 2 percentage points. Hilary has not capitalized on the big momentum shift she forecasted, and the Wright fiasco seems not to have damaged Obama.

Many people are saying that Obama has closed the deal now, and Superdelegates should now throw behind Obama. If Hilary keeps at it, she'll just tear the party apart.
Good points, CT.

I see it your way. But Hillary has been quoted today as saying, to paraphrase, here campaign will continue at "full speed."

I don't think she can close in on the delegate count, including the Supers.
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Hillary loses more ground as the gap widens. Obama gains +16 pledged delegates between Indiana and NC. Think it's more full speed reverse. I think the Wright episode while not a catastrophe, did just enough to prevent Obama from winning in Indiana. All up hill for Hillary from now on. She again is in need of funds to continue. Doubt she'll get much support in future states. Noticed in her victory speech she emphasized how she would support Obama should he be the candidate and assured all the Dems would be united against McCain. I think she has finally realized her goose is cooked.

Expect much movement within the super delegates between now and next primary.
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Old 07-05-2008, 04:11 PM   #3 (permalink)
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^Yeah, one nail in her coffin is the fact that she's now perceived as a sinking ship. Donors consider giving money to her at this point as throwing it down the toilet. Her funds should dry up now.

*HOWEVER, Fox news is now predicting she has won Indiana by the slimmest of margins. Here she goes toward destroying the party. Hilary has said she is going for broke. I suppose she means broken party. Scorched earth policy. Brill.

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^Yeah, one nail in her coffin is the fact that she's now perceived as a sinking ship. Donors consider giving money to her at this point as throwing it down the toilet. Her funds should dry up now.

*HOWEVER, Fox news is now predicting she has won Indiana by the slimmest of margins. Here she goes toward destroying the party. Hilary has said she is going for broke. I suppose she means broken party. Scorched earth policy. Brill.
Well, I'm digging it!
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Old 07-05-2008, 07:52 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Well, I'm digging it!
Kinda thought you would be enjoying this. Savory it while it last. Get your boy McCain in training and make sure you teach him the rope a dope cause when Obama is done dealing with Hillary he's comin ta getcha.
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Old 07-05-2008, 07:57 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Well, I'm digging it!
Kinda thought you would be enjoying this. Savory it while it last. Get your boy McCain in training and make sure you teach him the rope a dope cause when Obama is done dealing with Hillary he's comin ta getcha.
Well, believe McCain is ready. To use an anlogy when they counted Richard Nixon out: "He's tan, rested & Ready"!

Even the Democrats admit that BO can't win with just the so-called 'egg head' & Negro vote. BO's lost a significant portion of the Democrat base.
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Old 07-05-2008, 07:54 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Hilary has said she is going for broke.
Literally!
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Old 07-05-2008, 09:57 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Hilary has said she is going for broke.
Literally!
Fox news is confirming that she reached in her pocket to lend her campaign over $6million in the last 30 days. I'm not sure if this is in addition to the $5million she loaned the campaign previously.

She underperformed on Tuesday, and now faces an uphill battle for funds. I guess Bill is going to have to get back to the paid speaking circuit pronto!
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Old 07-05-2008, 07:59 PM   #9 (permalink)
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^You do have a good point. The blue collar white vote still eludes Obama, and many, including myself wonder how he can get it. I suppose they will pick the right running mate to do that, and Hilary would be that. But can you imagine morning staff meetings with Hilary spitting venom for the next 8 years?
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You do have a good point. The blue collar white vote still eludes Obama, and many, including myself wonder how he can get it. I suppose they will pick the right running mate to do that, and Hilary would be that.
where to begin....

1. simply because whites making under 50 k/year supported clinton in the primary contests doesn't mean they won't vote for obama in november over mccain.

2. for any number of reasons obama will never select clinton as his VP.

3. i doubt clinton would take the job if offered....savvy prognosticators have her leaving the senate and running for gov of NY.
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Old 07-05-2008, 08:37 PM   #11 (permalink)
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where to begin....
Are you an egg-head, ray?
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Old 07-05-2008, 08:11 PM   #12 (permalink)
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^Ray, you neglect the fact that Hilary supporters are strident and upon poll after poll have firmly stated they will not support Obama if he wins. That is troubling. Yes, Dems do traditionally line up behind the nominee, but I question that in this tremendously divisive primary battle.

And, yes, I agree, Obama will tell her to pound sand for her dirty pool. She won't even get a post in the administration anywhere. She'll be left in the cold. But, I do question which running mate could attract those blue collars.....
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Old 07-05-2008, 08:31 PM   #13 (permalink)
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John Edwards? Although he noticably failed to endorse either canddidate in his home state of N. Carolina.
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Old 07-05-2008, 08:34 PM   #14 (permalink)
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^Yeah, he's been mentioned along with Bill Richardson, but with Richardson, these Archie Bunkers don't want no spic in the white house either.
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John Edwards? Although he noticably failed to endorse either canddidate in his home state of N. Carolina.
He wants to wait until there is a clear cut winner. Two defeats in the same primary is not good for ones ego or political future.
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Old 07-05-2008, 10:04 PM   #16 (permalink)
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She might have to become a lawyer again to make back her money. Seems a waste of resources now.
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Old 08-05-2008, 05:22 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Y'all can dance around it all you want but bottom line - the election of the next US President will boil down to race:

"Obama did manage to pull in many white voters, but still encountered similar sentiments from a man who refused to shake his hand at a diner in Greenwood, Ind.

"I can't stand him," the man said. "He's a Muslim. He's not even pro-American as far as I'm concerned."

Lots more sentiment like that above, out there lads...

Ugly truth why Hillary Clinton won't quit
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Here's the quote today (7 May) from my Barack Obama daily e-mail updates:

"News broke this morning that Senator Clinton made three separate loans to her campaign in the past 30 days -- including one as recently as Monday.
These loans total more than $6.4 million, which combined with her previous personal loans, add up to at least $11.4 million she's loaned her campaign since February.
A spokesman said she may continue to "loan the campaign additional money out of her jointly-held assets" -- which include more than $100 million in income since her husband left the White House.
Meanwhile, by winning a double-digit victory in North Carolina and closing the gap in Indiana, Barack won another 100 delegates.
Barack Obama is now just 169 delegates away from winning the Democratic nomination. It's within sight.
This is a decisive moment in this race.
Barack has already won more votes, more delegates, and more than twice as many states as Senator Clinton, whose path to the nomination has grown extremely narrow. But these loans show that her campaign will continue to contest the remaining primaries vigorously."
https://donate.barackobama.com/results
Hilly's digging for clams.
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^If I were she and Bill, I'd seriously be thinking that as this erodes their personal fortune, is it really worth it? I guess it is, as this is her last real chance to grab the brass ring. She won't have another shot, and they can always keep earning.
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Here it comes. Finally, the tired old party heavyweights are using their pussy liberal Clinton appeaser pea brains.

McGovern, former Clinton backer, endorses Obama

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SIOUX FALLS, S.D. - Former Sen. George McGovern, an early supporter of Hillary Rodham Clinton, urged her to drop out of the Democratic presidential race and endorsed her rival, Barack Obama.
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After watching the returns from the North Carolina and Indiana primaries Tuesday night, McGovern said Wednesday it's virtually impossible for Clinton to win the nomination. The 1972 Democratic presidential nominee said he had a call in to former President Clinton to tell him of the decision, adding that he remains close friends with the Clintons.
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"I will hold them in affection and admiration all of my days," he said of the Clintons.
BLAH, throw up....

McGovern, former Clinton backer, endorses Obama - Yahoo! News

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