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Old 06-03-2008, 08:45 AM   #621 (permalink)
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^ Ya, I read that, too. I bet Michelle would punch Bill's lights out if he'd tried any Lewinsky moves.
I doubt Hilde would go for VP or that Obambi (I just read that in the NYorker article) would ask her. Bambi needs a governor with long-time service and a great foreign policy record. Mebbe Bill Richardson?
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Old 06-03-2008, 08:49 AM   #622 (permalink)
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^Yeah, I agree Richardson makes a lot of sense for either candidate, but maybe more for Obama as it would help to get the hispanic vote in the general election, which is his weak point.

I was reading about how McCain must now turn his attention to a running mate, and has to pick somebody with youth because of the worry of his age.

I suppose Obama has the reverse problem. He needs to pick an elder statesman as junior mentor.

I'm not sure what the Hildebeast would need in a VP, but I can see her clashing with just about any strong person who's not a yes man.

* I think the implication is that having a two term President as your spouse counts for a lot.
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Old 06-03-2008, 09:03 AM   #623 (permalink)
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a clinton/clinton ticket
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Old 06-03-2008, 09:06 AM   #624 (permalink)
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Very funny, but I'll bet it would beat McCain hands down! Of course, that would be a great motive for Bill to knock off the bitch though to become Pres. again. Not sure if that's allowed.
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An ABC News report identified Harper's chief of staff, Ian Brodie, as the source of the first leak of meeting details to reporters. Harper has said Brodie had nothing to do with it.

Liberal foreign affairs critic Bob Rae said on his blog Tuesday that it was clear the Tories are trying to help Republican friends at the expense of Canadian interests.

The controversy could play to the Republicans' advantage in November in Ohio, a potential swing state where job losses have made the 15-year-old free trade deal highly unpopular.

Obama and Democratic competitor Senator Hillary Clinton have both said they want to reopen the free trade deal between Canada, the U.S. and Mexico to ensure better environmental and labour standards.

International Trade Minister David Emerson and Finance Minister Jim Flaherty said U.S. officials should not forget the benefits of the agreement and hinted Canada could respond to a NAFTA pullout by renegotiating U.S. access to Canada's oil.

Harper says information leak unfair to Obama, probe in progress
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Very funny, but I'll bet it would beat McCain hands down! Of course, that would be a great motive for Bill to knock off the bitch though to become Pres. again. Not sure if that's allowed.
He could be VP. I believe he could be President in the event of the Executive being unable to perform his/her duties, or dying.

But this won't happen.
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^Yes, I think you're right, but he couldn't then serve another term as an elected President. So, he'd have to knock her off early in the first term.
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Old 06-03-2008, 09:24 AM   #628 (permalink)
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Republican McCain trails Clinton and Obama: poll

1 hour, 17 minutes ago WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Presumptive Republican presidential nominee John McCain trails Democrats Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama in hypothetical matchups, according to a Washington Post-ABC News poll released on Wednesday.


Illinois Sen. Obama leads McCain by 12 percentage points -- 52 percent to 40 percent; New York Sen. Clinton leads McCain by 6 points -- 50 percent to 44 percent, the poll found.

Republican McCain trails Clinton and Obama: poll - Yahoo! News
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Old 06-03-2008, 09:30 AM   #629 (permalink)
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has a former prez ever been v.p.???-- dont think so but???

any official links about the rules??
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Old 06-03-2008, 09:33 AM   #630 (permalink)
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I think it is hypothetically possible. If Clinton gets the nomination and polls show her too close to McCain, I don't think it's out of the question that in order to win the Democratic party would encourage this. I think it would assure a victory for her. I know now it's not even under discussion, but let's wait....

*Keep in mind that this could just be the ultimate tactic for winning the Presidency. I don't think Bill would ever serve as VP for long. He'd probably go 6 months, then would be re-assigned as some special envoy, and she would appoint someone else. The ultimate end game winning strategy. I should be paid for this stuff.
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i think the clinton/ obama scenerio is a very real posability
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^Obama would be smart to take the VP position, and he doesn't seem to suffer from the same kind of foolish pride she has. It would set him up for bigger things later.

I think a more serious risk is that if this fight goes all the way to the floor of the convention, there will be so much blood letting that it may be a seriously weakened ticket.
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I agree with KID and CT.

Obama is young.

They are both close to each other in delegates and polls. They are basically close to McCain in the polls (although polls shift weekly and monthly).

But together, I think an HRC/Obama ticket would be hard to beat.
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concure with you both--- hilary up front and obama to keep her in check

I just dont think obama is ready and hilary is as gungho as they come but I think the partnership would appeal to the voters

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Interesting article on the BBC re' this subject
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I just dont think obama is ready and hilary is as gungho as they come but I think the partnership would appeal to the voters
The VP plays second fiddle, and basically does nothing. The VP attends some cermonies, but stays in the background. The VP is briefed on what's going on in the world and nation to stay on top of things, but that's about it.

I think an HRC/Obama combo would be very strong.
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Obama wins in Wyoming, adds 7 delegates

By MEAD GRUVER, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 46 minutes ago

CASPER, Wyo. - Sen. Barack Obama captured the Wyoming Democratic caucuses Saturday, seizing a bit of momentum in the close, hard-fought race with rival Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton for the party's presidential nomination.

Obama has also shown strength in the Mountain West, winning Idaho, Utah, Colorado and now Wyoming. The two split Nevada, with Clinton winning the popular vote and Obama more delegates.
Obama wins in Wyoming, adds 7 delegates - Yahoo! News
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All delegates are important at this point and a win is a win but Wyoming will go nearly 100% Republican in the Presidential race.
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Obama wins in Wyoming, adds 7 delegates
All delegates are important at this point and a win is a win but Wyoming will go nearly 100% Republican in the Presidential race.
Yes, I think that's also true for most of the Rocky Mountain states. The issue here is Obama winning the Democratic nomination. He will have his work cut out for him winning the general election in the Rockies, but then, again, the Rockies don't really matter that much because not much population there.
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