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AntRobertson · 22-01-2008, 02:36 PM

^ I think the $1,000 applies to 'personal donations' as seperate and distinct from the much larger 'campaign contributions' which - as long as they are declared - have no upper limit that I'm aware of?

To be honest I'm not entirely sure myself; Tex or any other of our American members know the specifics?

Jet Gorgon · 23-01-2008, 12:21 AM

$2,300 is the current max

Jet Gorgon · 23-01-2008, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by floorpotato

I just saw today's CNN debate and Edwards was very powerful. Hillary was even more unhinged and venomous than usual, accusing Obama of being an attorney for slumlords and supporting laws that allow sex shops near schools. What a frightening, hideous person she is. Edwards would flatten any leading Republican candidate. His economic populism just might catch on in the next few months as the US economy continues to unravel. But Edwards is running out of time and money.

A great debate. Hilde was nasty but Obama cut her no slack when he derided her for sitting on the board of Walmart. Also, the audience booed her when she made that attack on OB. I agree, Edwards is a fine speaker, but his views scare me -- he'll have the whole country unionized, and anyone with a business will suffer. Hilde even pulled billionaire Warren Buffet into the fray -- fek, the guy's just donated most of his wealth to Bill Gates' charities. Dems want to tax the crap out of people who work hard, build a strong company, and made alot of money. Even China allows that today.
A bunch of meanies, really.

Milkman · 23-01-2008, 02:54 AM

^ Agree on Demos wanting to tax working folks - bad.

On Edwards and unions - unions are already dead.

Hootad Binky · 23-01-2008, 05:05 AM

Oh really? Let's compare tax rates of the Clinton administartion and GWB shall we?

GWB gave a big tax break to the super-rich, I believe, meanwhile the cost of living has increased during his tenure and wages stagnated; how does this benefit the middle class and working poor, compared to Clinton? Facts, please.

Hootad Binky · 23-01-2008, 05:46 AM

The Democrats have a better record of managing the economy than the Republicans.

Less Cash in Their Pockets: Trends in Incomes, Wages, Taxes, and Health Spending of Middle-Income Families, 2000-03

Jet Gorgon · 23-01-2008, 08:59 AM

Hootad, the cost of living increases every year, no matter who is in office. Is that graph from Congress correct? I thought the defict was in trillions. And how is this measured? By the Treasury market's bond offerings.
Yep, things were so much cheaper in Clinton's era. Well, we don't live in that era and prices have increased for everything, or do you still pay the same amount for a quart of milk that you did in 2000?

The table with the 2000 and 2003 info based on 2003 dollars is another scam. How about basing it on 2000 dollar values?

blackgang · 23-01-2008, 09:10 AM

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Jet Gorgon · 23-01-2008, 09:28 AM

^ Ice maiden? 555

Milkman · 23-01-2008, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootad Binky

Oh really? Let's compare tax rates of the Clinton administartion and GWB shall we?

GWB gave a big tax break to the super-rich, I believe, meanwhile the cost of living has increased during his tenure and wages stagnated; how does this benefit the middle class and working poor, compared to Clinton? Facts, please.

I agree with you. (But I don't know if you're referring to me.)

I was referring to the Democratic party - not Bill Clinton.

Yes, GWB gave tax cuts to the top, while the Middle Class slow sinks, every year, and the working class declines as well.

Both parties tax the middle class.

The trend of wage stagnation, and higher COL (cost of living) started about 35 years ago, and will continue.

Bill Clinton IMO, was one of the better Presidents the US has had many decades.

He also practiced the fiscal policy of "Pay as you go" as the deficit charts illustrates.

And good charts by you, Hootad.

I agree with you.

raycarey · 23-01-2008, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

Dems want to tax the crap out of people who work hard, build a strong company, and made alot of money.

this is nothing but regurgitated, sensationalistic propaganda which was originally devised to encourage working americans to vote against their own best interests.

as the country spirals into recession, the populist themes being put forth by edwards will resonate. he most likely won't get the nomination, but he will likely be 'king maker' at the convention.

Boon Mee · 23-01-2008, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by raycarey

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

Dems want to tax the crap out of people who work hard, build a strong company, and made alot of money.

this is nothing but regurgitated, sensationalistic propaganda which was originally devised to encourage working americans to vote against their own best interests.

as the country spirals into recession, the populist themes being put forth by edwards will resonate. he most likely won't get the nomination, but he will likely be 'king maker' at the convention.

If the above doesn't take the snort-worthy post of the day, nothing else will!

Hootad Binky · 24-01-2008, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

Hootad, the cost of living increases every year, no matter who is in office. Is that graph from Congress correct? I thought the defict was in trillions. And how is this measured? By the Treasury market's bond offerings.
Yep, things were so much cheaper in Clinton's era. Well, we don't live in that era and prices have increased for everything, or do you still pay the same amount for a quart of milk that you did in 2000?

The table with the 2000 and 2003 info based on 2003 dollars is another scam. How about basing it on 2000 dollar values?

If the poor receive insufficient educational assistance/job training, if the middle classes get no tax breaks and if wages stay flat then there is little or no benefit to those classes. Not really fair since American workers are now among the most productive in the world.

Jet Gorgon · 24-01-2008, 05:56 AM

^ 555 I had no backing or welfare when I went to uni. Worked weekends and nights to pay my way. I WORK to get what I want. I do not expect a fekin handout.

Boon Mee · 24-01-2008, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

^ 555 I had no backing or welfare when I went to uni. Worked weekends and nights to pay my way. I WORK to get what I want. I do not expect a fekin handout.

Good on ya, Jet!
Bunchcha soft ****s these days want everything handed to them...

floorpotato · 24-01-2008, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Boon Mee

[Bunchcha soft ****s these days want everything handed to them...

The people crying for the biggest government handouts these days are US bond insurers Ambac, MBIA, etc... who are spiraling into bankruptcy. Corporate welfare here we come. American taxpayers, hold onto your wallets.

Getting back to the topic of this thread, America's corporate media continues to steer the public toward their approved candidates. When John ("100 more years in Iraq") McCain had a few good debates, he was all of a sudden portrayed as a comeback phenom before a single primary vote was cast. No such treatment in the press for populist John Edwards, who has also shined in recent debates. In the past week, Ron Paul came in 3rd in the Nevada caucus and 2nd in Louisiana. These results were barely reported.

Milkman · 24-01-2008, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by floorpotato

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

[Bunchcha soft ****s these days want everything handed to them...

The people crying for the biggest government handouts these days are US bond insurers Ambac, MBIA, etc... who are spiraling into bankruptcy. Corporate welfare here we come. American taxpayers, hold onto your wallets.

Welfare in the USA goes to corporations, and the military is a socialist welfare program that works on behalf of economic interests.

Quote:

Getting back to the topic of this thread, America's corporate media continues to steer the public toward their approved candidates.

Yeah, he's the darling of the media.

Milkman · 24-01-2008, 02:52 PM

Julie Annie is tied for 3rd place in the Florida Primary for Jan. 29th.

Guliani and Huckabee will both fade, IMO. Romney and McCain will vie for the GOP nomination. Yes, it sounds like I'm parroting the article below.

And no, polling is not very reliable these days.

Quote:

Rudy Giuliani has hit the skids in a Florida freefall that could shatter his presidential campaign and leave a two-man Republican contest in the state between John McCain and Mitt Romney, a Miami Herald poll shows.
Despite hovering over Florida voters for weeks, Giuliani is tied for third place with the scarcely visible Mike Huckabee in a statewide poll of 800 likely voters.

Link: Poll: Giuliani slips to third in Florida - 01/23/2008 - MiamiHerald.com

raycarey · 24-01-2008, 02:57 PM

22-01-2008, 02:36 PM	#41 (permalink)
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Hootad Binky Elite Member Last Online: Today 08:55 AM Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: West Coast Canada Posts: 2,921	Oh really? Let's compare tax rates of the Clinton administartion and GWB shall we? GWB gave a big tax break to the super-rich, I believe, meanwhile the cost of living has increased during his tenure and wages stagnated; how does this benefit the middle class and working poor, compared to Clinton? Facts, please. __________________ Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone elses opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation. -Oscar Wilde

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Milkman Gone Off Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: shelf Posts: 9,543	^ Agree on Demos wanting to tax working folks - bad. On Edwards and unions - unions are already dead.

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Hootad Binky Elite Member Last Online: Today 08:55 AM Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: West Coast Canada Posts: 2,921	The Democrats have a better record of managing the economy than the Republicans. Less Cash in Their Pockets: Trends in Incomes, Wages, Taxes, and Health Spending of Middle-Income Families, 2000-03

23-01-2008, 08:59 AM	#47 (permalink)
Jet Gorgon What the Dormouse Said Last Online: Today 07:53 AM Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Rabbit Hole Posts: 7,501	Hootad, the cost of living increases every year, no matter who is in office. Is that graph from Congress correct? I thought the defict was in trillions. And how is this measured? By the Treasury market's bond offerings. Yep, things were so much cheaper in Clinton's era. Well, we don't live in that era and prices have increased for everything, or do you still pay the same amount for a quart of milk that you did in 2000? The table with the 2000 and 2003 info based on 2003 dollars is another scam. How about basing it on 2000 dollar values?

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Jet Gorgon What the Dormouse Said Last Online: Today 07:53 AM Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Rabbit Hole Posts: 7,501	^ Ice maiden? 555

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Jet Gorgon What the Dormouse Said Last Online: Today 07:53 AM Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Rabbit Hole Posts: 7,501	^ 555 I had no backing or welfare when I went to uni. Worked weekends and nights to pay my way. I WORK to get what I want. I do not expect a fekin handout.

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