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Old 26-10-2008, 10:01 PM   #2041 (permalink)
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So Peter Wallsten is the key figure in this drama..
There are a lot of hits when googling his name but none of the hits relates to
this scandal.
A bit strange isn't it Booners?
What theater did you say it would come to?
As I say, patience. It'll be front-page news soon - although we can be assured that CNN and the likes will attempt to suppress it...
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Old 26-10-2008, 10:43 PM   #2042 (permalink)
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What theater did you say it would come to?
World premier at Palin's Pavilion in Wasilla Alaska. November 6th 2008.
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Old 26-10-2008, 10:55 PM   #2043 (permalink)
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There are google hits for it now, all of them leading to rightwing blogspots.
No variation on the theme, word for word the same on all blogs.

So it must be true since there are more than 3 individual sources for it now..
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Old 26-10-2008, 11:01 PM   #2044 (permalink)
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There are google hits for it now, all of them leading to rightwing blogspots.
No variation on the theme, word for word the same on all blogs.

So it must be true since there are more than 3 individual sources for it now..
If y'all recall, it was one of them so-called 'Right-Wing Blogspots' - Little Green Footballs that broke the fake story about Dubya's National Service that got Gunga Dan Rather turffed offa CBS News?
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Old 26-10-2008, 11:04 PM   #2045 (permalink)
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And here's Obama gliding - another fact kept hidden from us all . . . Obama is, in fact . . .
The Anti-Christ!!!


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Old 26-10-2008, 11:07 PM   #2046 (permalink)
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Old 27-10-2008, 01:33 AM   #2047 (permalink)
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I think it is time for McCain to play his trump card.

Given that Bush won support through his claims to have conversations with God, it is now time for McCain to tell us when he plans on having a face to face meeting.
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Old 27-10-2008, 03:43 AM   #2048 (permalink)
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I do have an opinion. Euros are brainfed socialist rhetoric for the most part. From what I see, they just regurgitate what their leftie papers tell them.
You Don't have an opinion Jet, you just think republican.
Au contraire, mon ami. I watch and read media from both sides, but my favs are The Economist, Bizweek, the FT, WSJ, and...Vanity Fair. I watch several news programmes, coz if you put the folks you don't like on ignore, you never know what the enemy camp is up to and you miss some good laughs -- I truly believe Rachel Maddow's nose is becoming seriously bent to the side from all of her smirking and that it will soon grow like Pinocchio's.
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The EU's founding charter states the groups belief in the market system and free trade. However Jet doesn't like dealing in facts much. No point wasting your time flash
55555555555 Sure, in their own area maybe. I remember when the charter was set and the EU banned the import of bananas from one country (not one of the old colonial states) because they didn't meet size requirements. Market system and free trade? Joke. Amongst themselves sure; not for many others with all that red tape. Look at them now -- Ireland guarantees deposits for Irish banks but not for banks of other countries, and the whole EU is freaking over banking regs and who should guarantee deposits for whom. Heck, the UK was going to invoke the anti-terror law against Iceland (oh, not an EU member) when the country said it would guarantee their own nationals' accounts but nobody else's (like the English folks). The EU likes free trade between its own members, pandies to Russia because it supplies alot of its energy and allows its members to manufacture and import from China coz its cheap. I never liked the EU. Free trade based on its definition of that term.
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Old 27-10-2008, 04:30 AM   #2049 (permalink)
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There are google hits for it now, all of them leading to rightwing blogspots.
No variation on the theme, word for word the same on all blogs.

So it must be true since there are more than 3 individual sources for it now..
The existence of the tape is not in doubt. In his article from last April, the Los Angeles Times’ Peter Wallsten said explicitly that they possessed a copy of the tape: Allies of Palestinians see a friend in Barack Obama.
At Khalidi’s going-away party in 2003, the scholar lavished praise on Obama, telling the mostly Palestinian American crowd that the state senator deserved their help in winning a U.S. Senate seat. “You will not have a better senator under any circumstances,” Khalidi said.


The event was videotaped, and a copy of the tape was obtained by The Times.

At Australia’s Daily Telegraph, Tim Blair says: “Peter Wallsten, hand over that tape.”

In September 2004, LA Times reporter Peter Wallsten tried his best to discredit bloggers who exposed Dan Rather’s fraudulent memos, insinuating that the whole thing was a Republican plot: Mainstream Media Gets Their Smear On.
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Old 27-10-2008, 03:51 PM   #2050 (permalink)
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I watch and read media from both sides, but my favs are The Economist, Bizweek, the FT, WSJ, and...Vanity Fair. I watch several news programmes,
Then why are you so woefully uniformed?

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the EU banned the import of bananas from one country ...
...because they didn't meet size requirements.
Pre-existing trade pacts and quality control as well as labor right sin the country of origin all play a roll in these decisions, but you sound just like the typical SUN reader to who a headline 'Continentals want to ban our snags' is true and powerful . . . despite not having three verifiable sources

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Market system and free trade?
Great, isn't it?!

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Ireland guarantees deposits for Irish banks but not for banks of other countries,
Umm, the problem with that is . . . what exactly?

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the UK was going to invoke the anti-terror law against Iceland
In terms of freezing bank accounts - the problem is . . . ?

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pandies to Russia
I will presume you mean 'panders' . . . to a certain extent yes, like the US to Saudi and the rest . . . but t enough to not threaten sanctions

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I never liked the EU. Free trade based on its definition of that term.
I'm sure the feeling is mutual. 1 to 300 million, I guess . . . Free trade is what it is - no country in the world practices free trade in its purest sense . . . name one.
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Old 27-10-2008, 11:20 PM   #2051 (permalink)
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In Obama’s America, we’ll finally be able to break free of the “constraints that were placed by the founding fathers in the Constitution” — and in so doing, achieve “social justice” through “redistributive change.”

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Old 27-10-2008, 11:33 PM   #2052 (permalink)
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What are the presidential hopefulls saying about the illegal attack inside Syria? These bastards need to stand up condemn this or they can both go to hell.
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Old 27-10-2008, 11:59 PM   #2053 (permalink)
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What are the presidential hopefulls saying about the illegal attack inside Syria? These bastards need to stand up condemn this or they can both go to hell.
They must "be strong" and not talk about it, or say, "we must go after terrorists."

They cannot sound weak.
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Old 27-10-2008, 11:59 PM   #2054 (permalink)
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As I say, patience. It'll be front-page news soon
How soon Booners?
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Old 28-10-2008, 12:15 AM   #2055 (permalink)
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As I say, patience. It'll be front-page news soon
How soon Booners?
That story has been briefly sidelined by this .

Anyhow, for your reading pleasure:

The Wikipedia page for Rashid Khalidi is being edited to cover up Barack Obama’s associations with the former PLO spokesman: Revision history of Rashid Khalidi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
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Old 28-10-2008, 01:20 AM   #2056 (permalink)
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this made me laugh.....

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Suppose that instead of a relatively decisive win by Barack Obama on Election Day, we instead have a very close election.

Wish state might the McCain campaign really, really wish that they hadn't insulted?

I'll give you a hint. It's not technically a state, but rather, a commonwealth.

Five separate polls of Virginia have been released within the past 48 hours. Zogby has Obama ahead by 7 points there, the Washington Post by 8, SurveyUSA by 9, Public Policy Polling also by 9, and Virgnia Commonwealth University by 11.

Virginia, with 13 electoral votes, is a bit more electorally potent than Colorado; Obama could afford to lose either New Hampshire or New Mexico if he won there (though not both), which is not true about the Rocky Mountain state. We are currently projecting Obama to win every John Kerry state, except New Hampshire, but plus Iowa, by double digits. If Obama wins all of those states plus Virginia, he's at 268 electoral votes, meaning that any more electoral votes anywhere in the country would win him the election.


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Old 28-10-2008, 01:37 AM   #2057 (permalink)
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No point wasting your time flash
55555555555 Sure, in their own area maybe. I remember when the charter was set and the EU banned the import of bananas from one country (not one of the old colonial states) because they didn't meet size requirements. Market system and free trade? Joke. Amongst themselves sure; not for many others with all that red tape. Look at them now -- Ireland guarantees deposits for Irish banks but not for banks of other countries, and the whole EU is freaking over banking regs and who should guarantee deposits for whom. Heck, the UK was going to invoke the anti-terror law against Iceland (oh, not an EU member) when the country said it would guarantee their own nationals' accounts but nobody else's (like the English folks). The EU likes free trade between its own members, pandies to Russia because it supplies alot of its energy and allows its members to manufacture and import from China coz its cheap. I never liked the EU. Free trade based on its definition of that term. [/quote]



I agree that the EU inhibits global world trade but I don't see how this can be called socialism. The US also has huge farm subsidise between the EU and US millions of poor farmers in the third world are excluded from benefiting from trade. America currently has a strong desire for protectionist policies. America fought a bloody global war in the name of capitalism but as soon as a few jobs are lost to China and India America wants to rearange the global system of trade to make it even more in their favour. The Asian nations which are working hard are going to wake up one day and recognise the parasitic nature of the current "free market" which favours the Western world; a real change is needed to make free trade equitable for all states.
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Old 28-10-2008, 02:43 AM   #2058 (permalink)
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^ True. McCain has voted against the farm bills, but Obama wants further protection, including tighter trade policies. This will harm free market trade, IMO.
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^ True. McCain has voted against the farm bills, but Obama wants further protection, including tighter trade policies. This will harm free market trade, IMO.
The farms bill is the most corrupt peice of legislation agriculture interests lobby harder than oil or the NRA.
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^ True. McCain has voted against the farm bills, but Obama wants further protection, including tighter trade policies. This will harm free market trade, IMO.
The farms bill is the most corrupt peice of legislation agriculture interests lobby harder than oil or the NRA.
Yes it is . . . but look further than the farm bill . . . the first one that oops off the tongue is Boeing . . . and conversely Airbus

So, Jet, if you hate the EU for its supposed anti-free trade laws you must also hate the US for its anti-free trade laws . . . Yes?
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