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| ฝรั่งพูดมาก Last Online: Today 08:23 AM Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Nong Khai
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| Bush Wins Agreement To Freeze Mortgages President Bush will announce this afternoon an agreement with major mortgage firms to freeze interest rates for five years for financially troubled homeowners -- a plan advocates say will help forestall a major foreclosure crisis but some conservatives say amounts to a bailout of people who made bad financial decisions. The plan would apply to homeowners who got adjustable-rate subprime mortgages between Jan. 1, 2005, and July 31 of this year and are facing a sharp jump in their rates before July 31, 2010. It would also offer to put them on a fast track to refinance their mortgages through lenders or through state and local housing authorities, according to several people briefed on the matter who spoke on condition of anonymity because the deal has not been officially announced. Eligible homeowners are those with enough income to pay their mortgages at lower rates but not so wealthy that they could afford the increase in monthly payments. The plan would be offered only to people who live in their homes, an effort to exclude real estate investors and speculators. On Capitol Hill yesterday, some Republican lawmakers and their aides expressed concern that the plan would anger homeowners and others who stayed out of the subprime mortgage mess. Darren McKinney, 48, a renter in the District, said he has been waiting for housing prices to fall so he can buy a condo without resorting to a dubious loan. He turned down an opportunity to buy his 600-square-foot apartment for $310,000 in late 2004 because he thought it was "absurdly overpriced." Now the government is rewarding people who made irresponsible decisions and bought homes beyond their means, he said. washingtonpost.com - nation, world, technology and Washington area news and headlines *** This kida of bullsiht burns me up. Greedy people, living beyond their means bailed out by the government, again. What kind of message does this send to every American? If enough people are greedy morons, no matter what type of mortgage contract you've signed, your glutoney will be rewarded with another bailout. You'll be relieved of your stupidity. There is precious little incentive anymore for upstanding Americans, living like Boy Scouts, to be responsible, modest informed homeowners that live within their means. What ever happend to free markets? Blaze your own trail, determine your own destiny. Let the chips fall where they may? Open the floodgates, free money for all who've been suckered in. Sorry to those who bought a house a few hundred sq feet smaller, or in a bit shabbier neighborhood -- to secure a reasonable mortgage -- you're not stupid enough to get any handouts. |
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Its a fcuked up situation and it will take years to overcome. For those wishing to profit from this situation I can recommend looking at Ultrashort ETF's, SKF and SRS. The stock markets will hobble to the next earnings season and then the carnage will unfold | |
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| A move to help the Macroeconomic situation - but to help the people that were dumb enough to get into the situation. I say, f-em. If they lose the house, they should lose it. "But don't let it hurt the big picture." This is ridiculous. Where were these greedy people that were lending and buying and regulating, all those years ago?
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I still say screw them. The boneheads deserve what they get. The case histories say a lot about these people. | ||
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| Watching the Wheels Last Online: Today 08:24 AM Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: east of Pattaya
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| It's about- 1- Bailing out the Lenders more than it is about bailing out the borrowers, economically speaking. Propping up the financial sytem. 2- Buying votes. A lot of the mid American Republican faithful are caught up in this. It will help keep the USD down too, which might not be such a bad thing given the current mess the US is in with it's trade and debt figures. If it doesn't work, and property prices keep going down, there will be one hell of a mess. The bailouts are not infinite, unless the USD is debased. Risky stuff. The stockmarket continues to ignore risk, and defy gravity. I won't be touching it with a bargepole. Both the Bush administration and the Fed have got it horribly, horribly wrong. I hope I'm wrong, but this could take years to unwind. The next Presidency is looking like a poisoned chalice to me. Maybe the Dem's should think long term and run someone unelectible (Obama?), and leave the Republicans to sort out their own mess. But that ain't politics.
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| ฝรั่งพูดมาก Last Online: Today 08:23 AM Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Nong Khai
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| Sure it's political. But that doesn't mean it's not reinforcing bad spending habits and sending the wrong message. There's a generation of Americans who believe it's OK to spend more than they make and somehow a fairy will sprinkle stardust over their mortgage contract and everything will be peachy. When the Japanese bubble burst in the late 80s, you didn't see the central government in Tokyo softening the blow to speculative landowners who lost their shirts. They didn't reward greed -- it was a tough lesson, but they're better for it. Nor should the US government reward this behavior. Fcukin softies. We all pay for it. ^the borrowers gain in "no mortgage increase" despite what their contract said. The lenders still get either a mortgage payment or these houses that are dropping in value. |
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| texpat's sexual obsession Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: deleting posts in issues
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| 1. your link doesn't work....which is becoming a frequent and tedious problem with your posts. please take a few moments to learn how to properly post a link. 2. how exactly did bush 'win' agreement? |
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| ฝรั่งพูดมาก Last Online: Today 08:23 AM Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Nong Khai
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| When I copy the address from the website, it pastes like this: washingtonpost.com - nation, world, technology and Washington area news and headlines Type www before this address and Bob's your uncle. washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/05/AR2007120501340.html?nav=rss_email/components |
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| texpat's sexual obsession Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: deleting posts in issues
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| texpat's sexual obsession Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: deleting posts in issues
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| here's some very disturbing information from herb greenberg's blog on marketwatch. it's really long, but worth the read... Quote:
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| ฝรั่งพูดมาก Last Online: Today 08:23 AM Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Nong Khai
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| In '05 I witnessed very young professionals buying 600,000 homes in Los Angeles. I knew something was majorly screwed. That's also when those house-flipping TV shows were popular. Made me sick. |
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