Thread: Pat Tillman Cover Up

Check out the wackos who now subscribe to the theory that Tillman was killed by Cheney & Bush!

Tillman Truthers: Kos: Tillman Murdered for Chomsky Admiration, Antiwar Views

Originally Posted by mad_dog

Look, if some inbred twat wants to go and fight for the Jews in a proxy war for 30 dollars and a big mac a day then let i'm.

Pat Tillman was a reader Noam Chomsky and planned to meet Chomsky on his return from service. Tillman also referred to the Iraq war as "f*cking illegal". This information was reported by Tillman's own mother. He doesn't sound like an inbred twat to me. He gave up a million-dollar profession to give his life for his country in an Afghan war that (unlike Iraq) arguably has some logical connection to his country's defense.

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

I'm glad the military lied ... better his parents believe he died honorably in battle than be put through the grief of their song being used by the commie pinko liberals as a propoganda tool.

Is it just me, or does that make absolutely no sense?

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

I'm glad the military lied ... better his parents believe he died honorably in battle than be put through the grief of their song being used by the commie pinko liberals as a propoganda tool.

Is it just me, or does that make absolutely no sense?

What is disturbing about this case is that Pat Tillman- a genuine, three dimensional person in real life rather than a macho pinup boy for boneheads- was dishonestly used as exactly that following his tragic death.

Extremely cynical and manipulative, a total lack of respect for the Truth, his memory, and his family- not to mention the American public. In short, a compelling expose' of the Bush administrations ethics in action.

Originally Posted by sabang

What is disturbing about this case is that Pat Tillman- a genuine, three dimensional person in real life rather than a macho pinup boy for boneheads- was used as exactly that following his tragic death

Exactly what I was getting at sabang. Storekeeper seems to be saying it's ok for the Govt. to lie and use his death for propaganda purposes because it means others can't!?

considering how the US military lied repeatedly about tillman's death, why should anyone believe that mccain was tortured before he signed a statement declaring he was a war criminal? it could easily be argued that the military made up this story so that his admiral father wouldn't lose face.

christ if the son of an admiral can't teake the heat of being a prisoner, that doesn't really send a strong message to the world, does it?

The Vietnamese "broke" him.

Suicide attempts and letters supporting his captors.

President? I don't think so.

did anyone watch meet the press today?

the general who is pushing for 40,000 more troops in afghanstan was neck deep in the cover up of tillman's death .

i'll post a transcript when it becomes available.

Didn't watch it, so please do. I'd be interested to read what he had to say.

the general (mc chrystal) wasn't on meet the press, but rather an author who just published a book about what actually happened.

and his research indicates that mcchrystal is dirty.

GREGORY: Jon Krakauer, I want to get to a key element of your book, "Where Men Win Glory," about Pat Tillman and how it relates to this current conversation about Afghanistan. Because it does involve General Stanley McChrystal, who was obviously critical on the stage now and was critical in the Tillman story of well. As a reminder, if you look at pictures of Pat Tillman, the NFL star with the Arizona Cardinals, decides to enlist in the Army, serves in the Rangers after 9/11. This was certainly a big story when he enlisted. And at the time, General McChrystal was actually head of Special Operations command. So Pat Tillman was killed in a friendly fire incident and ultimately won the Silver Star, and that's what you focus on in the book and in a subsequent piece that you wrote for The Daily Beast. And here's what you wrote: "An October 5 Newsweek article [said, about General McChrystal] that `he has great political skills; he couldn't have risen to his current position without them. But he definitely does not see himself as the sort of military man who would compromise his principles to do the politically convenient thing.' In the week after Tillman was killed, however, this is precisely what McChrystal appears to have done when he administered a fraudulent medical"--excuse me--"a fraudulent medal recommendation"--we're talking about the Silver Star--"and submitted it to the secretary of the Army, thereby concealing the cause of Tillman's death." Briefly explain what happened.

MR. KRAKAUER: The--after Tillman died, the most important thing to know is that within--instantly, within 24 hours certainly, everybody on the ground, everyone intimately involved knew it was friendly fire. There's never any doubt it was friendly fire. McChrystal was told within 24 hours it was friendly fire. Also, immediately they started this paperwork to give Tillman a Silver Star. And the Silver Star ended up being at the center of the cover-up. So McChrystal--Tillman faced this devastating fire from his own guys, and he tried to protect a young private by exposing himself to this, this fire. That's why he was killed and the private wasn't. Without friendly fire there's no valor, there's no Silver Star. There was no enemy fire, yet McChrystal authored, he closely supervised over a number of days this fraudulent medal recommendation that talked about devastating enemy fire.

GREGORY: And that's the important piece of it. And, and he actually testified earlier this year before the Senate, and this is what he said about it.

(Videotape, June 2, 2009)

LT. GEN. STANLEY MCCHRYSTAL: Now, what happens, in retrospect, is--and I would do this differently if I had the chance again--in retrospect they look contradictory, because we sent a Silver Star that was not well-written. And although I went through the process, I will tell you now I didn't review the citation well enough to capture--or I didn't catch that if you read it you could imply that it was not friendly fire.


(End videotape)

GREGORY: Even those who were critical of him and the Army say they don't think he willfully deceived anyone.

MR. KRAKAUER: That's correct. He, he just said now he didn't read this hugely important document about the most famous soldier in the military. He didn't read it carefully enough to notice that it talked about enemy fire instead of friendly fire? That's preposterous. That, that's not believable.

Nov. 1: Tim Geithner, David Plouffe, roundtable - Meet the Press- msnbc.com

i strongly recommend that anyone interested in the cover up of pat tillman's death or the character of maj. stanley mcchrystal (sp?), to go to the following link...

Meet the Press- msnbc.com

and under 'recent videos'

scroll down to "take two" "krakauer recounts the odyssey of pat tilman'.

if this story has legs...and i'm not sure if it does.....mcchrystal will be lucky if he isn't court martialed.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Forget Pat Tillman - old news eh?

Yes old news. An all American pin-up boy was murdered by some of his colleagues. He was going to speak some inconvenient truth's.

Most inconvenient, this old news.

Three cheers, for the system.

Originally Posted by sabang

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Forget Pat Tillman - old news eh?

Yes old news. An all American pin-up boy was murdered by some of his colleagues. He was going to speak some inconvenient truth's.

Most inconvenient, this old news.

Three cheers, for the system.

Murdered or accidental friendly-fire?

Got a link to show he was indeed murdered?

The 'system' would never murder anybody booner. Would it?

Pat Tillman was murdered.

Originally Posted by sabang

The 'system' would never murder anybody booner. Would it?

Pat Tillman was murdered.

Uh huh...got, like, a linky-poo for that unproven allegation?

Google is your friend.

Originally Posted by sabang

Google is your friend.

Heh...like my British 'cousins' say: "Can't be arsed"

Yep, bin there dunnit. Carnt be arsed to till old ground. But others will, and knowledge is power.

Time to move on...