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Old 04-11-2009, 12:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Many people will end up homeless then

Many people will end up homeless then.
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Mainly because the economic expansion since GWB took office was a paper expansion financed by cheap credit.

Now that foreign capital is drying up (due to the declining value of the dollar) the U.S. is in for a nasty ride.

All this because we invaded Iraq.
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^ True. Loose lending.

Here's is another article. It's not unusual. Nothing big:

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By John W. Schoen
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March 8, 2007



Since the middle of last year, a downturn in the U.S. housing market has taken its toll on a wide group of people and companies, clobbering homebuilders, condo flippers, borrowers with weak credit, lenders who oversold loans, and just about anyone with a home for sale.
Now the housing slump is hitting yet another target: housing-related jobs, a list that includes everyone from the people who build and sell houses to makers of appliances and furnishings.
That's a sharp contrast to the height of the housing boom in 2005-06, when the industry was responsible for creating some 25,000 to 50,000 new jobs every month, according to Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moodys.com

“In the recent months it’s been laying off workers at a pace of 25,000 to 50,000 per month,” he said. “And I think the next couple of quarters we’ll start seeing job losses of between 50,000 and 75,000 per month. ... I think the housing market is going down a whole other notch.”

With the global stock market on edge and analysts debating the odds of recession, the government’s monthly jobs data due out Friday will be scrutinized more closely than ever for hints of what lies ahead.

Housing-related job losses are expected to put a dent in the overall pace of February job growth, which forecasters believe will slow to 100,000 new jobs or less — down from a gain of 111,000 in January. Market watchers got a preliminary read on the February job numbers Wednesday with the release of a separate survey from payroll processor ADP, which showed non-government job gains of just 57,000 in February. (Since the ADP report doesn't include government jobs, that's roughly equivalent to job gains of just 70,000 in the official government numbers.)
Link: Weak housing market weighs on job growth - Eye on the Economy - MSNBC.com
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Going down the crapper because real economic growth is non-existent.
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more good news I guess

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Second-Biggest Subprime Lender Halts New Loans
New Century Move Feeds Bankruptcy Speculation;

Funding Crunch Widens
By JAMES R. HAGERTY, GREGORY ZUCKERMAN and RUTH SIMON
March 9, 2007; Page A1

In the clearest sign yet of how rapidly funding is vanishing for the risky loans that helped fuel the housing boom, nervous creditors forced New Century Financial Corp., the nation's second-largest subprime mortgage lender, to stop making new loans.

The Irvine, Calif., company, which has been plagued by rising defaults on its subprime mortgage loans -- home loans made to borrowers with weak credit -- said it has been in talks with its creditors to "identify ways to address their concerns" and obtain more funds in the near term. But it added that "there can be no assurance that these efforts will succeed."

Yesterday, people close to the matter said New Century got fresh financing from one of its biggest creditors, investment bank Morgan Stanley. Even so, the company's mounting woes intensified speculation that it may be forced to file for protection from creditors under Chapter 11 of the federal Bankruptcy Code unless it can find a suitor or sell assets soon.

A former New Century executive said the company's best option might be to try to sell its servicing business, which collects payments and handles other administrative duties on loans outstanding, and its mortgage portfolio. As of Sept. 30, the company reported that its portfolio totaled $14 billion.

A New Century spokeswoman declined to comment on the possibility of a bankruptcy filing or asset sales.

In 4 p.m. composite trading on the New York Stock Exchange, New Century's shares dropped $1.29, or 25%, to $3.87, giving the company a market value of about $215 million. The stock has fallen 73% since last Friday, when it closed at $14.65.

Director Steps Down

One of New Century's outside directors also stepped down. Late Wednesday, hedge-fund manager David Einhorn resigned the board seat he won in March after tangling with company management over strategy. Mr. Einhorn is president of Greenlight Capital LLC, New York, which holds a 6.3% stake in New Century. At the current share price, that stake is valued at about $14 million, down from more than $160 million in mid-2006. Mr. Einhorn declined to comment.

New Century's fate now is in the hands of its chief creditors, which along with Morgan Stanley include Goldman Sachs Group Inc., Barclays PLC and Credit Suisse Group.

Investment banks like these provide financing for lenders like New Century to make loans, then buy those loans and package them into securities for sale to investors world-wide.

Portfolio of Loans

New Century said one of its lenders, which it didn't identify, has provided it with $265 million in financing secured by the company's portfolio of loans held as an investment. That lender also provided $710 million of financing for mortgage loans previously financed by another lender, which exercised its right to withdraw that financing, New Century said.

People familiar with the matter cited Citigroup as the company that withdrew funding and Morgan Stanley as the provider of new financing. A Citigroup spokesman declined to comment.

Wall Street firms and big banks stand to gain in some ways from the troubles of subprime lenders, even as they take some hits on loans and securities. The turmoil is reducing the number of competitors in what was until recently a very lucrative business. Many of the firms make subprime loans themselves, often through mortgage brokers.

Until a few weeks ago, the mortgage industry was awash in cash from investors searching for higher yields. That made it easy for borrowers to get a mortgage -- even if they had bad credit or couldn't document their income or provide a down payment.

Now, rising defaults have soured investors' appetite for securities backed by such mortgages, making it hard for subprime lenders to sell their loans and raise cash to make new ones. The industry's troubles are quickly and sharply cutting the availability of credit for borrowers with weak credit.

The latest disclosures at New Century come as two other large subprime lenders, Novastar Financial Inc. and H&R Block Inc.'s Option One, announced this week they would no longer be offering certain "piggyback" products, a pair of loans that together finance 100% of a home's cost.

A third lender, Fremont General Corp., stopped making subprime home loans earlier this week after announcing its exit from the business last Friday under pressure from regulators.


While several dozen lenders have shut their doors, others are quickly upping the minimum credit scores they require for various types of loans.

"The last couple of weeks have been almost catastrophic," said Armand Cosenza, a mortgage broker in Cleveland. Mr. Cosenza said he turned down eight loan applicants on Wednesday because he couldn't get them a mortgage. At least five of them would have qualified for a loan six months ago, he said.

George Hanzimanolis, a mortgage broker in Tannersville, Pa., says his office has turned away 30 to 40 people in the past week because of tighter lending standards. "It's scary how quickly these very large lenders are just...imploding," he says. "The situation will get uglier before it gets better."

Many economists say that the subprime crunch won't cause big problems for the U.S. economy. But economists at Goldman Sachs in New York said in a report this week that the tightening of subprime credit could cut annual demand for new homes by 200,000 units, or about a fifth of new-home sales last year.

"This credit tightening potentially will create another leg down in housing," said Ivy Zelman, a Cleveland-based housing analyst for Credit Suisse Group.

Some of the Wall Street firms that have financed New Century's lending have expressed confidence that its troubles won't have a major impact on them. Earlier this week, Barclays, which has given a $1 billion line of credit to New Century, said: "The vast majority of our exposure to all U.S. subprime lenders is fully collateralized. We do not anticipate material losses to arise from our exposure to the sector."

As of Sept. 30, Morgan Stanley had extended a $1.5 billion credit line to New Century. A person close to the firm said it believes that any losses from New Century won't be material.

Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs and Credit Suisse declined to comment on details of their exposure to New Century.

Rare Black Eye

For Mr. Einhorn, the hedge-fund manager, the New Century debacle is a rare black eye. As of yesterday, his Greenlight Capital's 6.3% stake made it New Century's second-largest shareholder, after Hotchkis & Wiley Capital Management LLC, Los Angeles, with a 7.1% stake, according to Thomson Financial. A Hotchkis spokesman declined to comment.

Greenlight Capital was down 2.8% through the end of February, according to a letter sent to investors, with the bulk of those losses due to New Century. Last year, the fund scored gains of 25%.

New Century, second in its share of the subprime market only to Countrywide Financial Corp., disclosed last Friday that it is subject to a federal criminal inquiry into trading in its securities and accounting. The company also said it expects to report pretax losses for the fourth quarter and full year but couldn't yet quantify them, pending an investigation by the audit committee of its board into accounting problems.

New Century, which last year made loans totaling $59.8 billion, has about 6,700 employees after laying off about 300 earlier this month.

Write to James R. Hagerty at bob.hagerty[at]wsj.com, Gregory Zuckerman at gregory.zuckerman[at]wsj.com and Ruth Simon at ruth.simon[at]wsj.com
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Found this site. It's tracking all the lenders going down.

Are we going to have a financial meltdown again ?

The Mortgage Lender Implode-O-Meter - related to subprime lending, subprime mortgages, lending fraud, predatory lending, housing bubble, mortgage banking, foreclosures, debt, consolidation, lawyers, class-action lawsuits

also this:

http://yahoo.reuters.com/news/articl...mktNews&rpc=44

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Bear Stearns: Stricter lending seen barring 1 mln US home buyers
From Reuters (hat tip: Cal): Stricter lending seen barring 1 mln US home buyers
Tougher lending standards stemming from the shakeout in the beleaguered subprime mortgage industry could prevent up to 1.1 million U.S. homebuyers from getting mortgages this year, a Bear Stearns analyst told investors on Friday.

Banks and mortgage companies would sharply scale back lending to two groups: subprime and "Alt-A" borrowers, said Dale Westhoff, Bear Stearns' head of mortgage-backed research.
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Westhoff estimated a 30 percent, or $180 billion, contraction in the subprime sector in 2007 from 2006, and forecast a 25 percent, or $100 billion, decline in Alt-A loan production from last year.

"This implies a purchase contraction of 1.1 million borrowers," said Westhoff who was speaking at Bear Stearns mortgage conference here. "That's a non-trivial number."
As I've been writing, Wall Street's 2007 housing forecasts are "No longer operative". I'd like to welcome Westhoff to the fold, and I'll write more about this later.
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here you go Milkman http://www.speculativebubble.com/images/homevalues1.gif
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Thanks, William.

Robert Schiller has a stellar reputation.

He also predicted the market bubble and bust.

There are people that disagree with Shiller. But when he speak we should listen.

Jim Rogers (who founded the Quantam fund with George Soros) is saying the same thing.

When Rogers and Shiller speak, I listen.

We'll see what happens.

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I do notice the term "mortgage-slave"
It's also called "house poor"

Can't spend anything outside the house to make the payments
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Short Selling is leaving some in a bind, as expected:

Link: WP: Some home sellers losing money - washingtonpost.com Highlights - MSNBC.com
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Existing home sales tumble in March

Trade group: Biggest monthly slump in nearly two decades

Updated: 9:29 a.m. PT April 24, 2007

WASHINGTON - Sales of existing homes plunged in March by the largest amount in nearly two decades, reflecting bad weather and increasing problems in the subprime mortgage market, a real estate trade group reported Tuesday.
Entire: Existing home sales tumble in March - Real Estate - MSNBC.com
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Home Sales Hit Slowest Pace in 4 Years
Monday June 25, 10:21 am ET
By Martin Crutsinger, AP Economics Writer
Sales of Existing Homes Fall in May to Lowest Level in Four Years
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Reflecting further housing troubles, sales of existing homes fell in May to the lowest level in four years while the median home price dropped for a record 10th consecutive month.

The National Association of Realtors reported Monday that sales of existing single-family homes and condominiums dropped by 0.3 percent to 5.99 million units in May, the slowest sales pace since June of 2003.

The median price of a home sold last month dropped to $223,700, down 2.1 percent from a year ago. It marked the 10th straight price decline compared with a year ago, the longest stretch of weakness on record.
The sales decline reflected weakness in the South, where sales dropped by 3.4 percent, and the West, where sales were down by 0.8 percent.
Sales actually showed strength in the Northeast, rising by 5.8 percent, and the Midwest, where they were up 0.7 percent.


In a troubling sign for the future, the inventory of unsold homes rose by 5 percent to 4.43 million units in May, a level that would take 8.9 months to clear out at the May sales pace. That is the highest inventory level since the last deep slump in housing in 1992.


Analysts said housing is being hurt currently by high inventories and the recent crisis in subprime mortgages, which has caused lenders to tighten their standards, making it harder for potential buyers to qualify for loans.
They said all of the housing troubles seem to be causing a crisis in confidence, making people delay decisions to buy homes.


"I think psychological factors are currently the biggest drag on the housing market, in addition to a disruption from tighter credit for subprime borrowers," said Lawrence Yun, senior economist with the Realtors.
"Household formation has slowed dramatically since late 2006, implying that many people are doubling-up. They're adding roommates are moving in with parents," he said.


The current slump in housing is the worst since the 1989-92 downturn. It is occurring after a prolonged boom that saw sales of new and existing homes set new records for five consecutive years.


Link & Entire: Home Sales Hit Slowest Pace in 4 Years: Financial News - Yahoo! Finance



Things are cyclical, but the hard part is trying to figure out when the BOTTOM has been reached.



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Billions in subprime ARMs will be subject to higher payments.

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- More than two million subprime adjustable rate mortgages (ARMs) are poised to reset at much higher rates in coming months, worsening an already suffering housing market.

Borrowers who took out hybrid ARMs in 2004 and 2005 to secure low "teaser" rates for the first two or three years of the loan may see their monthly mortgage payments climb by35 percent or more.

Consumer groups and politicians worry that hundreds of thousands of subprime ARM borrowers will be unable to keep up with their mortgage payments and will lose their homes.

"In October alone more than $50 billion in ARMs will reset," according to Mark Zandi, chief economist and co-founder of Moody's Economy.com. That's a record, according to Zandi.

A buyer in 2005 with poor credit and limited means might have signed on for a $200,000 2/28 hybrid ARM, locking in a fixed rate of 4 percent for two years. After paying $955 a month, his bill would now be set to spike to $1,331, a 39 percent increase.

Until recently, rising home prices bailed out many ARM borrowers in trouble. They could raise cash with cash-out refinancings or home equity lines of credit. If worse came to worse, they could sell the house and get some money back.

But prices have stabilized or slipped in many markets.
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JUPITER, Florida, July 19, 2007 — Federal regulators and mortgage lenders were largely responsible for a housing and mortgage crisis that's likely to worsen, according to a white paper submitted today to the Federal Reserve by Weiss Research, Inc., an investment research firm.

The report's author, interest rate and real estate analyst Michael Larson, demonstrates that:
  • Rather than act as a moderating force, the Federal Reserve [jewish owned] played an important role in further inflating the housing bubble that's at the root of the current crisis.

  • Rather than accept a decline in lending volume as homes became less affordable, lenders [most US banks are jewish owned] debased their standards and incurred the risk of serious long-term damage to their finances, the industry, and, ultimately, the economy.

  • Wall Street's [much of ws is jewish controlled, eg, GoldmanSachs] large-scale transformation of mortgages into securities significantly boosted risk-taking.
Weiss Research Press Release on Housing Crisis (by Martin Weiss)
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Well the Subprime is continuing and will continue for the next 2 years.

It's trickling over to Alt-A loans, hedge funds that bought bundled subprime mortgage securities, and is also affecting American consumer spending which the U.S. economy depends of for the 72% of it's GDP.

Sit back, and enjoy the train crash.
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not looking good from the WSJ, and the ECB injected 100 billions to avoid a meltdown, not seen since 911

FALLOUT INTENSIFIED world-wide from the mortgage crisis. BNP Paribas froze three funds, battered hedge funds sold assets, and Countrywide Financial said "unprecedented" disruptions could damage its financial position. 12:26 a.m.
• Page One: How Subprime Mess Ensnared German Bank
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From WSJ

The SEC is checking the books at Wall Street firms, including Goldman, Bear Stearns and Merrill, to make sure they aren't hiding subprime-mortgage losses. 12:05 a.m.

The Dow industrials plunged 387.18 to 13270.68, their second-worst day of the year. Corporate-bond markets were roiled. Global central banks appear unlikely to cut interest rates, despite moves to pump liquidity into the financial system. 12:23 a.m.
• Tokyo's Nikkei 225 Sinks 2.6% | Markets data | Fed futures
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Turmoil in credit markets will have just a minor impact on growth, most economists say. But they cut their economic forecasts and nearly a third expect higher borrowing costs to be a significant contributor to a slowdown, in the latest WSJ.com survey.
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Another article. I put this up here because a new breed of mortgages are being defaulted on. And there is much more damage to come. Some briefs snippets below.

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High-risk mortgages turning into toxic mess

Experts believe the biggest problems will emerge during next 16 months


....If the worst fears about these loans materialize, the economic damage would likely extend well beyond the United States because much of the debt has been packaged into securities sold to pension funds, banks and other investors around the world who were hungry for high yields. The fallout could also further depress housing prices, leaving U.S. consumers feeling poorer and less likely to buy the merchandise imported from overseas.

While most of the mortgage market worries so far have focused on the huge losses flowing from the subprime home loans made to people with bad credit, the option and interest-only ARMs held by more creditworthy borrowers loom as another calamity in the making.

“Those loans are begging to blow up. This is a true financial crisis,” said Christopher Thornberg, a principal with Beacon Economics, a consulting firm that has followed real estate market’s ups and downs.
Entire: Risky mortgages turning into toxic mess - Real Estate - MSNBC.com
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We know where Krugman stand in his Op-Eds but apparently Greenspan was lobbied to focus on the subprime lending as far back as the year 2000. Interestingly, in his book, Greenspan claims he never saw the housing fiasco coming. Is he this naiive and foolish, or is he lying?

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I am not a gloom and doomer when it comes to the U.S. economy, but in the next 2 years there will be some adjustments. Some people will be affected; some people will not be.

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Data add to gloom on US economy

By Francesco Guerrera, Jonathan Birchall and Daniel Pimlott in New York
Published: October 30 2007 15:32 | Last updated: October 30 2007 23:05

A build-up of bearish data fuelled fears of a US economic slowdown on Tuesday as consumer confidence slumped to a two-year low and house prices in big cities suffered their biggest drop in 16 years.


The growing evidence that the credit squeeze and housing meltdown are spreading to the rest of the domestic economy will increase pressure on the Federal Reserve to set aside concerns over rising inflation and cut interest rates on Wednesday.
Link: FT.com / World - Data add to gloom on US economy
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