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Old 25-05-2008, 04:39 AM   #141 (permalink)
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Actually, in his honour and respect for Veterans, John McCain was being criticised by Obama for his rejection of a bill that would increase benefits to Vets.
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Old 25-05-2008, 04:42 AM   #142 (permalink)
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Why should the nanny state take care of non-performing losers?
Is McCain a commie?
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Old 25-05-2008, 06:31 AM   #143 (permalink)
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The whole issue was over school funding for only three years of service. McCain figures folks will leave the services after that term if they get free education. Armed forces personnel get lots of training within the services, too.
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Old 25-05-2008, 08:13 PM   #144 (permalink)
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Obama obviously is not a demented 'nam vet, good for him.
It might come as a surprise K. Stroll that the majority of Viet Nam Vets are not whacked-out psycho cases like the media portrays.
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Old 25-05-2008, 08:16 PM   #145 (permalink)
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just the majority of the ones who post in issues.
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Old 25-05-2008, 08:20 PM   #146 (permalink)
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I know of two...count 'em two Viet Nam Vets posting in Issues & neither fit your model there...
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Old 25-05-2008, 08:32 PM   #147 (permalink)
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well there's you and blackgang for the 'whacked out psycho cases'.

are there more than 3 regular posters in issues that are vietnam vets?

if so, my apologies to them.
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Old 25-05-2008, 08:35 PM   #148 (permalink)
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well there's you and blackgang for the 'whacked out psycho cases'.

are there more than 3 regular posters in issues that are vietnam vets?

if so, my apologies to them.
You are truly an idiot...
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Old 26-05-2008, 07:40 AM   #149 (permalink)
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The most experienced Vietnam Vet that I know of on Issues is not a Right Wing DukeNuke'm at all.
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Old 26-05-2008, 08:38 AM   #150 (permalink)
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i thought there were only 3 regulars.
like i posted, if there are more than three, my apologies.
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Actually, in his honour and respect for Veterans, John McCain was being criticised by Obama for his rejection of a bill that would increase benefits to Vets.
I know a few veterans. Some have PTSD. With PTSD, there are neurological changes in the brain and the brain does not return to the way it was before the PTSD.

As for Veterans benefits, I must be honest here. I know some vets who were in 'Nam 40 years ago, and they are getting pretty decent money from the government, today. They are living like kings in Saigon and elsewhere.

It make me wonder. I think too much is paid out by the government.

Veteran benefits are just another Entitlement. Recieved by a few, and pay for by all.
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I know some vets who were in 'Nam 40 years ago, and they are getting pretty decent money from the government, today. They are living like kings in Saigon and elsewhere.
Many are living as you say. Not unlike anyone who worked for 40 years and retired. Combination of "company" retirement and Social Security

Add to that disability payments many receive be they ex military or civilian does tend to make for a good income in SEA.

For those scamming the system for disability I agree with you. Government at times is too quick to give disability to people that are undeserving.
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For those scamming the system for disability I agree with you. Government at times is too quick to give disability to people that are undeserving.
Agreed.
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The most experienced Vietnam Vet that I know of on Issues is not a Right Wing DukeNuke'm at all.
Clearly some pussy senile old git who has no inkling "instant war" is the only way to really solve a nation's problems. Works even when the problems have nothing to to with the reasons for the war.
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For those scamming the system for disability I agree with you. Government at times is too quick to give disability to people that are undeserving.
Agreed.
I agree with Norton and Texpat.

I know a couple of LRRPs, and have a lot of respect for their courage, if that is the right word to use. LRRPs was volunteer all the way, and you could also quit anytime.

The guys I know with PTSD, have it for real. I know they do. They also do not tell "stories," but do express worries, sorrow, and all of the additional things that one may go through from having these experiences.

There are a couple of guys I know that do to tell "stories," and they are kind of reminiscient and macho about it. These latter guys have been privately accused by some vets of faking it, or exagerrating things. They may have actually been REMFs, and no offense to that. But they played the system. Some guys with PTSD entitlements have been called back to take another test with a psychiatrist to see if they're being truthful or not mis-diagnosed. But if you do your homework, you'll know exactly what to say, and how to say it.

Anyway, real PTSD, is real. And it often results in a lower life expectancy.
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The most experienced Vietnam Vet that I know of on Issues is not a Right Wing DukeNuke'm at all.
"Experienced" as defined as...?
We are not talking about REMF's either...
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settle down boon mee.

we all know you nearly won the war single handedly (on a submarine no less) before jane fonda came along and snatched victory away.
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Heh...still got a sense of humor after yesterday's shellacking you got?

Good! Hang in there ray - hate to see you fuck-off like ant did.
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yesterday's shellacking you got?
keep trying to convince yourself of that willy.
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