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Old 23-05-2008, 10:08 PM   #121 (permalink)
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Neither McCain or Obama seem to be personally interested in pursuing the sort of smear politics that characterised the Rove/Bush administration. It adds to my estimation of them both, and certainly underscores the substantial differences between McCain and the Republican Right.

Jeez, if I was Obama I might even consider offering Mccain some role in the new administration, like Veterans Affairs or whatever.
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Old 23-05-2008, 10:36 PM   #122 (permalink)
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It's been done before, though I don't think with a opposition presidential nominee. Elizabeth Dole rings a bell.
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Old 23-05-2008, 10:55 PM   #123 (permalink)
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Jeez, if I was Obama I might even consider offering Mccain some role in the new administration, like Veterans Affairs or whatever.
Heh...that's very condescending of you.

Better that McCain offer BO a spot in his administration supervising the inner city or some such...
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Old 23-05-2008, 11:04 PM   #124 (permalink)
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Religious extremist McCain is unelectable.

Hagee, Parsley - heh...
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Old 23-05-2008, 11:08 PM   #125 (permalink)
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Religious extremist McCain is unelectable.

Hagee, Parsley - heh...
You know not of what you speak...jing, jing...
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Old 24-05-2008, 09:40 AM   #126 (permalink)
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In a general sense McCain seems a lot like John Kerry, an opportunist who married into money in order the pay his way in politics. However unlike Kerry who is generally harmless, McCain is a nasty piece of work.
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Old 24-05-2008, 10:07 AM   #127 (permalink)
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Religious extremist McCain is unelectable.

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Oh, you're so wright.
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Old 24-05-2008, 12:38 PM   #128 (permalink)
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A new NEWSWEEK Poll underscores Obama's racial challenge.

By Jonathan Darman

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This is what some posters have mentioned: the white vote. And this is what I'm concerned with. As the campaign goes into the final phases, a racial divide on voting may happening. It's disappointing:

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Even as he closes in on the Democratic nomination for the presidency, Sen. Barack Obama is facing lingering problems winning the support of white voters--including some in his own party. In a new NEWSWEEK Poll of registered voters, Obama trails presumptive Republican nominee Sen. John McCain 40 percent to 52 percent among whites. Sen. Hillary Clinton, Obama's challenger for the Democratic nomination, also trails McCain among white voters but by a smaller margin, 44 percent to 48 percent. (For the complete results, click here).

Among voters overall, however, Obama fares better, tying McCain 46 percent to 46 percent in a hypothetical match-up.
Link & Entire: NEWSWEEK Poll Underscores Obama's Racial Challenge | Newsweek Politics: Campaign 2008 | Newsweek.com
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Old 24-05-2008, 12:46 PM   #129 (permalink)
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Religious extremist McCain is unelectable.

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obama - wright???? heh
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Old 24-05-2008, 01:00 PM   #130 (permalink)
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Religious extremist McCain is unelectable.

Hagee, Parsley - heh...
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I presume Stroller was joking.

McCain is not very religious and many of his views are anathema to the religious extremists (or, religious right).

He does need a portion of them to go to the polls, however, so he may say some coundbytes, and even waffel if necesarry towards the end of the campaign. Or, maybe he won't.
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Or, maybe he won't.
He will likely rely on the near surety the religious right will not vote for Obama.
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Old 24-05-2008, 06:33 PM   #132 (permalink)
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so the handpicked members of the media had 3 hours to review 1,173 pages of medical records.

isn't that about 9 seconds per page?

Medical files indicate McCain in reasonably good health
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Old 24-05-2008, 06:59 PM   #133 (permalink)
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In a general sense McCain seems a lot like John Kerry, an opportunist who married into money in order the pay his way in politics. However unlike Kerry who is generally harmless, McCain is a nasty piece of work.
I wouldn't go so far as to say "nasty piece of work" but he was not my first or second choice...
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I wouldn't go so far as to say "nasty piece of work" but he was not my first or second choice...
The Republicans are stuck with him. As John says and I agree, "it is what it is". GOP will have to figure out a winning strategy and so far I don't see one springing out.
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GOP will have to figure out a winning strategy and so far I don't see one springing out.
they're going to get crushed in house and senate elections, but i read something today (politico?) about how the GOP likes mccain's chances with the electoral map.
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here it is...

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the contours of the electoral map, combined with McCain’s unique strengths and the nature of Obama’s possible vulnerabilities, have led to a cautious and muted optimism that McCain could actually surpass Bush’s 35-electoral-vote victory in 2004. Though they expect he would finish far closer to Obama in the popular vote, the thinking is that he could win by as many 50 electoral votes.
GOP strategists mull McCain ‘blowout’ - David Paul Kuhn - Politico.com
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they're going to get crushed in house and senate elections, but i read something today (politico?) about how the GOP likes mccain's chances with the electoral map.
Seems to be the same argument Hillary is using. Another thing of note is although McCain has raised little money, the Rep Party has a much larger war chest than the Dems. This is always a factor.
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John McCain lays the smackdown on BO w/regard to Veterans:
[i] take a backseat to no one in my affection, respect and devotion to veterans. And I will not accept from Senator Obama, who did not feel it was his responsibility to serve our country in uniform, any lectures on my regard for those who did.
"Perhaps, if Senator Obama would take the time and trouble to understand this issue he would learn to debate an honest disagreement respectfully. But, as he always does, he prefers impugning the motives of his opponent, and exploiting a thoughtful difference of opinion to advance his own ambitions. If that is how he would behave as President, the country would regret his election."

Regret? Regret? BO in the White House would be a National disaster!!

Jonathan Martin's Blog: Obama criticizes absent McCain on Senate floor, McCain hits back hard - Politico.com
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Old 25-05-2008, 04:19 AM   #139 (permalink)
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^ Didn't he have a proxy?
Anyway, McCain went on Ellen Degeneres show, where she attacked him for his anti-gay marriage stance. He held up fine. Let's see BO on Fox.
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