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stroller

Ah, how sweet - 'John' helped a US colonel in captivity, that's the stuff great presidents are carved from, regardless of their policies, no doubt!

Boon Mee

John McCain paints BO's portrait:

"To encourage a country with only rhetoric, rather than sound and proven ideas that trust in the strength and courage of free people, is not a promise of hope," -- McCain

"I do not seek the presidency on the presumption that I am blessed with such personal greatness that history has anointed me to save my country in its hour of need." -- McCain

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chinthee

The more I think about McCain, the more I think he is a good man. Just too old.

He's really the ideal candidate in terms of being a moderate republican, and a Reagan democrat kind of guy.

I just wish he were a little younger I would support him.

Jet Gorgon

^ He just needs a good running mate.

raycarey

wow. scores of posts 'mysteriously' gone from this thread. i wonder how that happened.

Milkman

Why?

To make his policies better or to win the election?

Or, to have a good VP become President?

McCain is a Neo-Con, IMO. He's too old for such a demanding job. He's not a very bright fellow, but if he hire good people around that might help him.

I'm still skeptical. The fact that McCain is the nominee reveals that good people don't run for President. Perhaps they never did.

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Bugs

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I would not classify McCain as a neocon nor would I say he is not “good people”. McCain has always had a hard time with the red team because he is not far enough right for many of them. He was practically counted out before things even got started this year as most expected much of the same as before – not enough appeal to the far right, and therefore lacking in the fundraising and vote getting needed to be successful in the red team primaries.

McCain has been difficult for folks to pigeonhole because he is a bit of an independent thinker. He does not toe the party line and has worked many times across party lines. I am sure the core of the neocons are more than a bit skeptical about how things would unfold should McCain with the top job.

There are several instances in which McCain did not jump to send troops or have US military deployed overseas. From his freshman year in 1983 he opposed Regan’s desire to send troops to Lebanon all the way thru to at first supporting only a limited (air only) Us military response to the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait. Hardly a hard-core neocon.

Retired Adm. Bobby Ray Inman (a McCain supporter) says of McCain if he is able to get the top job:
“…there is going to be a lot of disappointment on the neoconservative side.”

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-mccainpolicy16mar16,0,7782992.story?page=1


I would say McCain coming out on top is about as big a surprise for the red team as Obama coming out on top is for the blue team.

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raycarey

bugs you're reminiscing about the mccain of 2000.

in the last few months he's flip-flopped on some aspect of his position on the follow issues...
immigration
abortion
torture
religous zealots
taxes.

he's no longer a maverick or a straight talker...he's a shadow of his former self

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"John McCain has voted with George Bush 90 percent of the time, Senator McCain likes to talk about judgment, but really, what does it say about your judgment when you think George Bush has been right more than 90 percent of the time? I don't know about you, but I'm not ready to take a 10 percent chance on change."

Barack Obama

chinthee

Obama to Receive Endorsement
Of 3 Former SEC Chairmen

Obama to Receive Endorsement Of 3 Former SEC Chairmen - WSJ.com

I guess it's no surprise the Wall Street regulators have chosen Obama, but McCain is still asleep at the switch to allow this to happen so early in the campaign.

Norton

He doesn't have to because his vast experience edge on Obama will automatically fix everything from the economy to global warming.

raycarey

not only that, but yesterday in a mystical speech mccain predicted the following will happen by 2013 if he is elected president....

all US combat troops will be out of iraq...because the US will have "won"!
OBL and ALL top lieutenants killed or in prison.

VOA News - McCain Predicts Iraq War Won by 2013 if He's Elected President

c'mon. maybe this sort of chicanery worked back in the day, but in 2008 people are too savvy for this sort of nonsense.

this is nearly as absurd as that gas tax holiday he proposed a few weeks ago.

raycarey

even more lobbyists are resigning from the mccain campaign...

but the self described 'straight talker' is simply bullshiting the american public...

McCain's national finance co-chair resigns - Yahoo! News

Milkman

I am writing a second post on this comment.

The VP, or running has no influence on policy.

Therefore, how would a running mate help McCain in policy?


Please clarify, Jet G.

sabang

Seems he is a closet Obama supporter. Given the amount of defections from the Mccain team, I think this is a pretty good reflection of the uphill battle he faces to gain election:-

"Senator John McCain's chief advertising strategist, Mark McKinnon, announced Tuesday that he was resigning, following through on a vow he had made months ago not to work against the candidacy of Senator Barack Obama.

His resignation follows the departures of five other aides in recent days because work they have done outside the campaign — as lobbyists for corporations and foreign nations, and, in one case, as a strategist for an independent political group — had presented conflict of interest issues.

In telling the Cox News Service last June that he would not work against an Obama candidacy, Mr. McKinnon had said that Mr. Obama’s election to the presidency “would send a great message to the country and the world.” In that interview, Mr. McKinnon had said that he had policy differences with Mr. Obama, especially on Iraq, and that he believed Mr. McCain was best suited for the presidency because of his national security positions. But, he added, “I just don’t want to work against an Obama candidacy.”

Mr. McKinnon’s decision highlights challenges Mr. McCain may face in running against a man who will be the first black presidential candidate from a major American political party if he cinches the Democratic nomination."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/21/us...21consult.html

I basically agree with Bugs- McCains not a bad guy, although he has some fatal policy flaws, he's too old, and prone to some stupid gaffe's on foreign policy matters- he's no statesman. The fact he got the GOP nomination shows just how much the neo-con element has been purged from the mainstream Republican party. That is good news.

But I'm becoming fairly confident now- Obama is going to be hard to stop. I also think his Presidency will be a good thing for the USA.

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britmaveric

Unfortunately Osama the car salesman would be the worst news for the world, luckily he won't make it as president. McCain will demolish him quite easily.

Begbie

Guess we can add that gem to the "Sayings of Britmaveric" thread.

McCain is definately past it. Take a hard look at his current public speaking style, I think it could be described as sleep talking. He'll read anything that's written on the teleprompt. Kind of reminiscent of Reagan in the last year of his presidency and not the kind of person who should be in charge of the nuclear trigger.

McCain is ready for a rocking chair and a glass of warm milk.

Milkman

What polling data are you referring to?

I haven't seen any polling data, and right now, the election is too far away for the polling to be valid.

We'll have to wait and see.

Milkman

To Britmaveric:

Link: Obama leads McCain in November match: Reuters poll | Reuters

Britmaveric?

sabang