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Old 07-05-2008, 06:42 PM   #41 (permalink)
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paul got 16% of the vote in PA
Obama/Paul. Dream team?
You mean like one of those 'Bong' Dreams?
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why won't this 72 year old cancer patient release his medical records?
This seems to be the nature of politics today so he probably should. Had JFK released his medical records he would never have been elected. He was a very sick man.
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Old 09-05-2008, 09:45 PM   #43 (permalink)
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^Damn, Norton, gotta green you so many times for this.

This is such a bullshit argument about age and health, and yet one our our best Presidents was so sick, John Kennedy.

These hypothetical partisan losers who don't understand real true grit. Well, who cares?
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Old 09-05-2008, 10:04 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Like it or not, John McCain will be the next President of the United States. It is easy to figure, there is no one else running.
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Old 09-05-2008, 10:07 PM   #45 (permalink)
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it just strikes me as peculiar---particularly coming from the self proclaimed 'straight talker'.
Given the penchant of the media to probe every issue these days, it is inevitable every candidate will get a grilling about every detail of "interest". McCain may or may not have a serious cancer problem and you are right, if he has nothing to hide why not. On the other hand, medical records are perhaps one of the most personal things we all have. There may be things in his record not even related to cancer or his state of health as it relates to his ability to hold the office. Knowing the media/political spin that can be put on the slightest item these days if I were he I sure wouldn't take the chance of releasing my medical records if it could be avoided. However, as I said before, this is the nature of the game so he may be damned politically if he doesn't release them.
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Like it or not, John McCain will be the next President of the United States. It is easy to figure, there is no one else running.
I really hope not. Not because McCain is too old, but merely because he is irrelevant.

At the same time, these pussy liberal assholes may think Obama is their candidate, but they're dead wrong.

Obama will prove to be a unifying multiparty force.

I'm so sorry for you legacy party people like raycary.
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Old 09-05-2008, 10:13 PM   #47 (permalink)
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What is totally rediculous is that Obama, who just does not have enough ass to successfully accomplish the duties of the U.S. President and has no real plan for meaningful improvements, has hood winked the Democratic party and the American public. At least Clinton has the ass and know with all to deal with issues. McCain is just more well rounded than either of the 2 democratic contenders. His experience and leadership is well grounded and he has the integrity to lead the country to improvement.
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raycarey believes anybody over 40 shouldn't be allowed to live.

I wonder what will happen to him in about 8 years?
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Old 09-05-2008, 10:26 PM   #49 (permalink)
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I hope I'm only hearing a fraction of the overall debate, but these are the two McCain policies I have heard so far-

1- We are willing to stay in iraq for 100 years.
2- Gas tax holiday.

Is anyone here aware of any other policies he has that might make a rational person vote for him?
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This is such a bullshit argument about age and health
why is having reservations about electing someone of his age and medical status to the office of the presidency a 'bullshit argument'?


he's a 72 year old cancer patient who spent years as a POW.

have you not seen the photo comparisons that illustrate quite plainly what this job does to people?


he'd be 76 at the end of his first term.....and it's a 'bullshit argument'?
I agree. He's too old to be President. But, I don't think 46 is too old and that is Obama's age. You've stated he's too old in 4 years from now.

You do think that's too old or close to it. You think anybody who's 50 or older is too old to be relevant.
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as well he should.....voters deserve to know.
I would agree we should know if he has terminal cancer or the like and has been told he has 2 years to live. What we don't need to know is; he had a swollen prostrate in 1998, a carbuncle removed from his butt, a case of gonorrhea when in the Navy, a heat rash in his groin area or erectile dysfunction. Releasing his records as seems to be the demand would expose any of these and have nothing to do with his ability to run the country but one need not speculate what the media would do. Would it be acceptable to have 3 or 4 doctors examine him and say he had no disease which would preclude or limit his ability to be president?
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^Damn, Norton, gotta green you so many times for this.

This is such a bullshit argument about age and health, and yet one our our best Presidents was so sick, John Kennedy.

These hypothetical partisan losers who don't understand real true grit. Well, who cares?
I do think about McCain's age - only as his VP is important.

More importantly to me, is his policies. Which me not like in general.
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in fact, i'm not really sure how it works now....is a full (warts and all) medical report released to media?
Maybe that's what taking him so long to release the "records". Figuring out how they will reword the gonorrhea and erectile dysfunction bits to put a positive spin on them.
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Cindy McCain inherited her fortune, then enhanced it, and created more jobs for people as a great manager. I respect her greatly for that.

What I don't respect are losers who inherit a little bit of money and then retreat and hide in Thailand.
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Please, back on topic boys, after a brief interlude.... John McCain? too old?
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Well, if success has nothing to do with material wealth, why do you even bring up the subject of inheritances?
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Another one-liner. Can you please try to add something substantive to this thread. Maybe something about John McCain?
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John McCain will lose.
The American public are going to punish the Republican party for the Iraq debacle.
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Well success is simply a matter of a opinion - basically equates how the person in question views his/her own life - achieved everything one has set out to do or is on ones way to doing so.

Personally if Ray is a broke Tefler and that was his goal - he is a success.

Back on topic.... what will a McCain presidency be like?? (no way Obama will become pressie - write it in stone)
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Same lads who said Bush would never be president said the same thing and they were wrong twice.
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