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sabang · 13-02-2008, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Boon Mee

The protesters who show up for the Berzerkeley City Council Meet - being the good little revolutionaries they are, will, no doubt have stopped off at ...the Che Store!

That's right! For all your Revolutionary needs, the Che Store has it!

Che Guevara - Che Textile Posters, Textile Poster - Che On Cuban Flag/"Revolucion" at theCHEstore.com

What problem do you have with Free Enterprise booner?
I thought you liked that sort of stuff.

Boon Mee · 13-02-2008, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sabang

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

The protesters who show up for the Berzerkeley City Council Meet - being the good little revolutionaries they are, will, no doubt have stopped off at ...the Che Store!

That's right! For all your Revolutionary needs, the Che Store has it!

Che Guevara - Che Textile Posters, Textile Poster - Che On Cuban Flag/"Revolucion" at theCHEstore.com

What problem do you have with Free Enterprise booner?
I thought you liked that sort of stuff.

Hmm.
Glorifying a mass-murderer like Che Guevara?
A standard-bearer representing what?

AntRobertson · 13-02-2008, 06:10 PM

^Who did he murder?

Boon Mee · 13-02-2008, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by AntRobertson

^Who did he murder?

Che Guevara was Fidel's personal hit squad.
Che murdered 100's in cold blood.
Was finally taken out in Bolivia where he was attempting to foment a revolution there.

AntRobertson · 13-02-2008, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Che Guevara was Fidel's personal hit squad.
Che murdered 100's in cold blood.

Don't suppose you've got a (non-blog) link to support these statements?

Boon Mee · 13-02-2008, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by AntRobertson

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Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Che Guevara was Fidel's personal hit squad.
Che murdered 100's in cold blood.

Don't suppose you've got a (non-blog) link to support these statements?

Sweet Chocolate Mohamad!

Google is your friend - you that interested, it's all documented history. Jeeze....

AntRobertson · 13-02-2008, 06:30 PM

^ Just say: "No, it's all propaganda/I just made it up" and save us both the time Booners.

raycarey · 13-02-2008, 06:42 PM

tomorrow i'll have to post some che related photos from a museum when i visited cuba in '05....just for you boonie.

actually, i may have already posted them on the other channel. if so, i'll post a link for you!

raycarey · 13-02-2008, 06:52 PM

the video linked below is taken from the same source that boon mee cited...but this one is a follow up story that actually provides context...

1. the person who put up the cuban flag with che superimposed on it, is cuban..she was born there. as a cuban american, she has the right to post any flag she wants, right?

2. it is NOT an obama campaign office, it is not sanctioned by the obama campaign, and was set up independently from the obama campaign.

MyFox Houston | Flag in Unofficial Obama Office Enrages Some

once again booner's been duped by the rabid right wing bloggers....doesn't he ever get tired of being their fool?

raycarey · 13-02-2008, 08:54 PM

here you go...

sabang · 14-02-2008, 11:30 AM

Watch 'The Motorcycle Diaries'. It's a lovely film.
If you're political, just ignore the fact Ernesto is che'.

Texpat · 14-02-2008, 02:33 PM

The Berkeley City Council voted in the early hours of Wednesday to reverse its controversial declaration that U.S. Marine Corps recruiters were "unwelcome intruders" in the city.

Its vote last month to send a letter to a downtown recruiting station advising the Marines they were not welcome set off a furious backlash. Conservative lawmakers in Washington and Sacramento threatened to cut millions in funding to Berkeley in retaliation. In Wednesday's action, the council -- while affirming its opposition to the war -- decided not to send the letter and to state that recruiters were welcome.

"We failed our city," said Gordon Wozniak, who was one of three council members who voted against the original declaration. "We embarrassed our city."

On Tuesday, antiwar and pro-military activists faced off outside City Hall, protests that led to several scuffles and three arrests, police said.

After backlash, Berkeley welcomes Marines - Los Angeles Times

So much for strength of convictions. When it threatens to cut their funding, their words are eaten.

raycarey · 14-02-2008, 02:50 PM

as i posted ten days ago, this is a non story. it would be very interesting to know how many people have signed on the dotted line in the berkeley recruiting office over the last few years.

the city council is also to blame, because they should have just left well enough alone. if the recruiting center had moved to some place like oakland (or another socio-economically disadvantaged area) they might have actually suckered some kids into signing up. by and large the people in berkeley are too intelligent and too wealthy to join the military.

also, perhaps foxnews and the right wing talk radio hosts that manufactured this 'scandal' (and enraged the rubes on this forum) should direct their outrage at the fact that most likely there are more former marines living on the streets and under bridges than will ever sign up at the berkeley recruiting office.

Boon Mee · 18-02-2008, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by AntRobertson

^ Just say: "No, it's all propaganda/I just made it up" and save us both the time Booners.

Revisionist history from K. ant again?

Boon Mee · 18-02-2008, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by raycarey

as i posted ten days ago, this is a non story. it would be very interesting to know how many people have signed on the dotted line in the berkeley recruiting office over the last few years.

Here's a checklist for ya ray!

AntRobertson · 18-02-2008, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Boon Mee

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Originally Posted by AntRobertson

^ Just say: "No, it's all propaganda/I just made it up" and save us both the time Booners.

Revisionist history from K. ant again?

I've studied Guevara in detail. It's apparent from your comments you haven't. Not revisionism, was merely curious as to how far you're prepared to go with your disigenuousity and/or wilful blindness. The answer to that's not surprising. Remember Boon, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

Boon Mee · 18-02-2008, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by AntRobertson

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Originally Posted by Boon Mee

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Originally Posted by AntRobertson

^ Just say: "No, it's all propaganda/I just made it up" and save us both the time Booners.

Revisionist history from K. ant again?

I've studied Guevara in detail. It's apparent from your comments you haven't. Not revisionism, was merely curious as to how far you're prepared to go with your disigenuousity and/or wilful blindness. The answer to that's not surprising. Remember Boon, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

If you've studied Guevara in 'detail' then you can only describe him as a cold-blooded thug who was little more than Castro's personal hit man...

Get a little objective here, eh?

AntRobertson · 18-02-2008, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Boon Mee

If you've studied Guevara in 'detail' then you can only describe him as a cold-blooded thug who was little more than Castro's personal hit man...

There you go agan, never one to let facts stand in the way of talking about something you know nothing about.

13-02-2008, 06:42 PM	#348 (permalink)
raycarey rafiki's sidekick Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: deleting posts in issues Posts: 4,809	tomorrow i'll have to post some che related photos from a museum when i visited cuba in '05....just for you boonie. actually, i may have already posted them on the other channel. if so, i'll post a link for you! Last edited by raycarey : 13-02-2008 at 08:57 PM.

13-02-2008, 06:52 PM	#349 (permalink)
raycarey rafiki's sidekick Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: deleting posts in issues Posts: 4,809	the video linked below is taken from the same source that boon mee cited...but this one is a follow up story that actually provides context... 1. the person who put up the cuban flag with che superimposed on it, is cuban..she was born there. as a cuban american, she has the right to post any flag she wants, right? 2. it is NOT an obama campaign office, it is not sanctioned by the obama campaign, and was set up independently from the obama campaign. MyFox Houston \| Flag in Unofficial Obama Office Enrages Some once again booner's been duped by the rabid right wing bloggers....doesn't he ever get tired of being their fool? __________________ "Is Obama a Muslim, or a Christian with a crazy pastor or a Communist atheist with a hippie mom? Is he ruthless and overly ambitious or naive and weak? Is he an outsider who is "foreign" to our values or a country club goer? Is he too South Side, too "black" or too Hyde Park and elitist? Does he resent white people or is he part of the elite that sneers at blue-collars? Does he not care about "little people" or is he a socialist who will redistribute hard-earned money to everyone?"

13-02-2008, 06:10 PM	#343 (permalink)
AntRobertson Devourer of Wayward Souls Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 7,950	^Who did he murder?

13-02-2008, 06:30 PM	#347 (permalink)
AntRobertson Devourer of Wayward Souls Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 7,950	^ Just say: "No, it's all propaganda/I just made it up" and save us both the time Booners.

13-02-2008, 08:54 PM	#350 (permalink)
raycarey rafiki's sidekick Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: deleting posts in issues Posts: 4,809	here you go...

14-02-2008, 11:30 AM	#351 (permalink)
sabang Watching the Wheels Last Online: Today 03:03 PM Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: east of Pattaya Posts: 6,895	Watch 'The Motorcycle Diaries'. It's a lovely film. If you're political, just ignore the fact Ernesto is che'.

14-02-2008, 02:33 PM	#352 (permalink)
Texpat Farang phoot mak Last Online: Today 03:10 PM Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Nong Khai Posts: 6,868	The Berkeley City Council voted in the early hours of Wednesday to reverse its controversial declaration that U.S. Marine Corps recruiters were "unwelcome intruders" in the city. Its vote last month to send a letter to a downtown recruiting station advising the Marines they were not welcome set off a furious backlash. Conservative lawmakers in Washington and Sacramento threatened to cut millions in funding to Berkeley in retaliation. In Wednesday's action, the council -- while affirming its opposition to the war -- decided not to send the letter and to state that recruiters were welcome. "We failed our city," said Gordon Wozniak, who was one of three council members who voted against the original declaration. "We embarrassed our city." On Tuesday, antiwar and pro-military activists faced off outside City Hall, protests that led to several scuffles and three arrests, police said. After backlash, Berkeley welcomes Marines - Los Angeles Times So much for strength of convictions. When it threatens to cut their funding, their words are eaten.

14-02-2008, 02:50 PM	#353 (permalink)
raycarey rafiki's sidekick Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: deleting posts in issues Posts: 4,809	as i posted ten days ago, this is a non story. it would be very interesting to know how many people have signed on the dotted line in the berkeley recruiting office over the last few years. the city council is also to blame, because they should have just left well enough alone. if the recruiting center had moved to some place like oakland (or another socio-economically disadvantaged area) they might have actually suckered some kids into signing up. by and large the people in berkeley are too intelligent and too wealthy to join the military. also, perhaps foxnews and the right wing talk radio hosts that manufactured this 'scandal' (and enraged the rubes on this forum) should direct their outrage at the fact that most likely there are more former marines living on the streets and under bridges than will ever sign up at the berkeley recruiting office.

18-02-2008, 07:18 PM	#359 (permalink)
raycarey rafiki's sidekick Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: deleting posts in issues Posts: 4,809