Thread: U.S. v. Libby

(If this) was an ordinary case, probably would result in probation-only with no sentence of jail time.

"At trial, the Prosecutor denied the defendant access to classified records about Plame's status, saying her status was irrelevant because he was charging no violation of that law. The parties were thereafter barred from mentioning it, though Fitzgerald broke that when he made his hyperbolic "cloud on the vice president" rebuttal closing to the jury-an act which breached the court's rule and put before the jury prejudicial matters never introduced into evidence and in a time and manner precluding a response."

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Libby's 'crime' was that he didn't take the 5th...

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Libby's 'crime' was that he didn't take the 5th

this ought to be good.....

why should libby have 'taken the 5th'?

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For the same reason Clinton obfuscated and lied re Monica?
To save his own skin.

Anyhow, this case is a travisty of justice when compared to the gravity of Sandy Berger crime.

To wit: "When Chris Wallace raised the possibility that Clinton's Administration might have done something more to prevent 9/11, Bill Clinton went into an inexplicable rage on national television. Wallace touched a nerve. So did the DC Bar.

Knowing what information Berger destroyed also might alter views of the current Bush Administration. Was the early support from both Bill and Hillary Clinton for going to war against Saddam based on something we don't know yet that was available to insiders in the Clinton Administration? Was it something that could come back to haunt Hillary and ruin her chances of winning Bill's third term?

Link

^ more off topic drivel from boonie. but i suppose that's just par for the course here in US issues.


but i'd like to be clear about something....

the US justice department asked the FBI to open a criminal investigation into the alleged leaking of a covert CIA agent's identity.....and you think the vice president's chief of staff should have taken the fifth?

during a time of war, you think the vice president's chief of staff should have taken the fifth to save his own skin when asked by the FBI about the leaking of the identity of a covert CIA agent.

this is your position, correct?

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Bush better pardon Scooter soon or I've washed my hands of this present administration.

unbelievable

it's not the failure and incompetence in response to hurricane katrina.

or the reckless spending of the last six years.

it's not the arrogance and ineptitude displayed in iraq

or any of the other countless failures.....


boonie will 'was his hands' if the president doesn't pardon a man who was convicted of obstructing justice and lying to the FBI.....about the outing of a CIA agent during a time of war.

god bless america.

He should have had a 'forgetful' memory.
A crime that pales in light of what Burger did...

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Hence the light sentence.
Could have shot him for treason - oh, no, hang on, he's one of the 'good' guys, like Oliver North.

Originally Posted by raycarey

boonie will 'wash is hands' if the president doesn't pardon a man who was convicted of obstructing justice and lying to the FBI.....about the outing of a CIA agent during a time of war.

Basically already have.
This latest amnesty immigration bill was the last straw...

I he got 30 months didn't he? Do they have white collar prisons in the US? I hope not... Scooter is quite an apt nickname eh? He's going to get ridden a fair bit now

I reckon Libby will serve 15 months for good behaviour and then be pardoned after his release by the outgoing pres Bush jr.

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Naw...had a look at him?
Nobody would want to ride that old wrinkled ass...

It's more about humiliation than sex.
I can see the odd bit of forced bukkake 'coming' his way...

He's going to a Federal minimum security 'lockup' where white-collar criminals do their time so it's unlikely he'd get gang-raped by a black crack-addicted individual.

He isn't all that popular amongst white crack-addicted individuals either, I heard.
Not even amongst non-addicted inmates, rumour has it.

Scooter will be in solitary for his own protection.

No doubt about that.

He'll write his memoirs and make a fortune.
The only Bloods and Crips he'll see will be some of the Guards.
But he will be a jailed felon.

Originally Posted by sabang

He'll write his memoirs and make a fortune.

no doubt he'll write them, but i don't think he'll make millions.

and you're right, scooter's probably on his way to club fed. far from doing hard time......while negotiating his book contract, he'll be playing tennis and doing yoga.

and let's remember that this is the vice president's chief of staff who was convicted of obstructing justice and lying to the FBI about his blabbing to the press about the identity of a CIA agent....during a time of war.

a pardon? at other points in the short history of the US, he would have been hanged a traitor.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Sandy Burgler's crime was of greater magnitude.
Libby's case is just another in a long string of more Bush-bashing...

Good point Boon. Some people are more equal than others. Sandy Berger is one of them.

Armitage is the one who mention Wison's wife worked for the CIA. He told more than one reporter. What he told Woodward is in post #231 of this topic.

It became gossip and Libby repeated the gossip. For this he goes to jail. Why didn't they pursue Armitage? After all the taxpayers money spent investigating and gunning for the President and the VP, all they ended up with was Libby. Libby took the fall because they had to show something for their efforts. It's a shame but that's how it goes when the small fish get caught up in the net that yields no big catch. No one helps them get out. Libby even did some legal work for Armitage in a libel suit.

Originally Posted by raycarey

Originally Posted by attaboy

It became gossip and Libby repeated the gossip.

ridiculous. but let's for a moment assume that the identity of a CIA agent was, 'gossip'.
why was the vice president's chief of staff gossiping with reporters about the identity of a CIA agent...during a time of war?
and again, he was convicted of obstructing justice and lying to the FBI.

ray, your concern during a "time of war" doesn't ring true. I think you would applaud the disruption of US covert efforts during this particular time of war. Any disruption whether directly effecting US efforts or distracting from those efforts to the slightest degree, you'd be all for it. Any movement any any direction other than forward would be a victory in your book.

Originally Posted by attaboy

Originally Posted by raycarey

Originally Posted by attaboy

It became gossip and Libby repeated the gossip.

ridiculous. but let's for a moment assume that the identity of a CIA agent was, 'gossip'.
why was the vice president's chief of staff gossiping with reporters about the identity of a CIA agent...during a time of war?
and again, he was convicted of obstructing justice and lying to the FBI.

ray, your concern during a "time of war" doesn't ring true. I think you would applaud the disruption of US covert efforts during this particular time of war. Any disruption whether directly effecting US efforts or distracting from those efforts to the slightest degree, you'd be all for it. Any movement any any direction other than forward would be a victory in your book.

No shit...