Beautiful Lancashire

[Mathos]

We stopped for lunch at a grand little pub in The Trough of Bowland. It was built in 1756 or thereabouts.


The Red Pump Inn Clitheroe Road, Bashall Eaves, near to Clitheroe.
Lancashire, I can well recommend it. Absolutely superb.





It served as a small hotel and if the appearance of the building in general, the inside of the pub,the bar areas and the small restaurant section were anything to go by we rather thought the accommodation would be special..

We both considered it would be a grand place to stay in the area.




Superb in every little detail.

We kind of imagined a winters day with logs blazing away on the fire, a nice pint
of local ale and a brandy and port to keep it company.

Bliss...




Gorgeous bars.




I have taken the information below from the INTERNET, the pages will lead you to more information on this gorgeous pub and there are more of their own photographs available to view.

The Red Pump Inn is one of the oldest inns in the Ribble Valley, (rumoured to have been built before 1756) and nestles happily in the quaint hamlet of Bashall Eaves just on the skirts of the Forest Of Bowland, an Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty (AONB; www.forestofbowland.com).

Enjoying truly panoramic views of spectacular countryside, the inn can be enjoyed right through the year.

What are we about…….

Really Great Food - using all local meat, game, cheeses and vegetables in dishes on the lovely rustic varied menu, the small team here are boringly passionate about good food. The Red Pump Inn is wholly approved and commended by the Taste Lancashire scheme with the Highest Quality Assured Award by Taste Lancashire (www.tastelancashire.co.uk) and is an enthusiastic supporter and participator in the Taste Lancashire Year of Food and Drink as part of the Liverpool '08 celebrations. The Red Pump Inn is also an approved food provider and proud members of the Ribble Valley Food Trail (www.ribblevalleyfoodtrail.co.uk) and is hand selected by the AA Good Pub Guide 2008 and Alastair Sawday's Special Places, The Best Pubs and Inns of Britain, to name but a few!

The menu at the Red Pump Inn changes to reflect the seasons and the whims of the owners and chefs, but is always true to good gutsy flavour. The full menu is supported by the daily specials' board which usually houses a swiftly changing choice of just that; "specials".

Children are catered for with their own menu, with some child-friendly specific (but always fresh and healthy) dishes that adults will want to pinch! We don't subscribe to a fast food ethic and our menu choices are freshly prepared to order.

We are more than happy to cater to vegans and those with dietary restrictions. Since we prepare everything fresh on the premises and know exactly what goes into each and every dish, this isn't a hardship, but some warning that you are coming is a help!

Visit www.sugarvine.com. Type in "The Red Pump Inn" in the search box and read our customer reviews!

Really Great Beers - local, regional and national cask conditioned ales cared for quite lovingly by owner Jonathan's obsession with great beers served well are always on offer. Think roaring fire and pint of cask ale; Timothy Taylor's Landlord, Black Sheep, Grindleton Brewhouse and Moorhouses to name but a few of the regular hand pulls on offer!

Really Great Wines - as a freehouse we can pick and choose what beers and wines we wish and they vary from well known excellent names to very special prestige limited availability wines, there is something for every taste; many served by the glass.

Really Great Accommodation - three sumptuous guest bedrooms, for when the roaring fire, good food and ales make the trip home just too tough

Great Café and Delicatessen - our lovely bright and sunny Coach-House houses the café and deli where we sell our home made breads and cakes and biscuits and pates…… come and try our famous Chocolate and Beetroot cake! Sorry but the café is not open in the winter.

Outside Dining - With a choice between bar, snug with a real open fire, large dining room, a Coach-house café and deli and the Old Dining Room to eat and drink in, there should be something to suit everyone, however with our gorgeous back and front gardens with different views of Pendle Hill or Longridge Fell, you may not want to stay indoors.

The whole ethic at the Red Pump Inn is a relaxed, informal, and friendly gathering place for locals and visitors alike.

[sabang]

^ I used to have a couple of pet alpaca's in Australia. They love raw carrots.

Country pubs, and a pint of local bitter.

[Mathos]

Originally Posted by sabang

^ I used to have a couple of pet alpaca's in Australia. They love raw carrots.

Country pubs, and a pint of local bitter.

Gorgeous critters aren't they.

Flying visit on here because it's late for me.

Midnight. Wow!





There aren't too many things in the world much better to cast your eyes on than a couple Lancashire Bars and all they have to offer.




Isn't that a beautiful sight.

Both of them, spectacular.

[wanderering walter]

You mention the Queen Duke of Lancaster ,all military services swear allegiance to the Duke, not the Government!! , this goes back to I think Henry 4, 14 th century, he, in law stated that the county Palatinate of Lancaster which included many parts of UK were immune from the Kings right, ( there is a complex legal situation here that I am not fully conversant with but the gist is that any law passed by Parliament cannot have any authority within the Palatinate) Modern governments have seized the rights of the sovereign although she /he needs to sanction whatever!! thats why she has to be presented with all Bills, and legally sign them, this is a conspiracy 100s of years old,

[Mathos]

Originally Posted by wanderering walter

You mention the Queen Duke of Lancaster ,all military services swear allegiance to the Duke, not the Government!! , this goes back to I think Henry 4, 14 th century, he, in law stated that the county Palatinate of Lancaster which included many parts of UK were immune from the Kings right, ( there is a complex legal situation here that I am not fully conversant with but the gist is that any law passed by Parliament cannot have any authority within the Palatinate) Modern governments have seized the rights of the sovereign although she /he needs to sanction whatever!! thats why she has to be presented with all Bills, and legally sign them, this is a conspiracy 100s of years old,

Thanks for the input Walter, interesting issues above, I might make time to look into what you say, it's got sound backbone to it.

Her Majesty was in Preston today.

She was at Fulwood Barracks;-

I've taken the little bit below from The Internet.

Preston is one of England's newest cities. It is located right at the heart of North West England. In addition to being easily accessible from practically anywhere in the country, Preston is the gateway to many of Lancashire’s beautiful countryside and coastal resorts, such as the Lake District and Blackpool. Preston, itself, has a wide range of local facilities ranging from go-karts to the National Football Museum. There is a broad range of pubs, clubs, restaurants and theatres. Beyond the city centre, around one third of Preston is dedicated to open spaces with Victorian parks, woodland, riverside walks and a country park.

Fulwood Barracks is the home to various units with the present occupiers being, 5 General Support Medical Regiment and Headquarters 42 (NW) Brigade. The barracks is also home to the museum of the Lancashire Regiment. There is a gymnasium, Regimental Bar, Pay as you Dine facility, church, and HIVE.

My sister in law went to see her board The Royal Train (I assume it was The Royal Train which she boarded at Preston Station, maybe going back to London?)

My elder daughter who is a nurse at The Royal Preston Hospital saw Her Majesty in a convoy of cars going to Singleton, apparently she made a flying visit to " Singletons Farm" at Singleton; home to the famous 'Grandma Singleton's Cheese.'

The Queen has many times been quoted as liking 'The Ribble Valley' as one of her favourite places to visit.

Just in case she is taking a peek at my Lancashire thread, This one is especially for her:-






I know for a fact she had a meal here, {The inn at Whitewell} local Goosnargh Chicken, local Beef, followed by Apple tart, and if my information
is correct from Flobo, it was on the 25th May 2006.

The local gamekeeper John Clark presented Her Majesty with one of his personal paintings of two pheasants.






The same day she visited the little Village Store here at Dunsop Bridge.

She was shown the recipe for the local scones and tea from the Puddleducks Cafe.

She spoke with local folk and staff.





So I raise my glass to The Queen, The Duke of Lancaster.

[wanderering walter]

Hi Mathos me again, I used to live off Watling

[wanderering walter]

Hi Mathos me again, I used to live off Watling St Rd back in the 50s in my parents house, about half a mile from the Barracks !! just a thought on the Duke of Lancaster bit, as you know its now called the Duchy of Lancaster which includes vasts amounts of lands thruout the UK, all belonging to the Sovereign, now here,s the weird thing, there is always in the government a Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, why? because its tradition, no , he is the one who usurps the Queens legal power in order to "legitimise parliament" Back in the 70s I knew an old buffer who knew about all this , Hugh Thornton from Kirkham, he had this book entitled The Duchy of Lancaster written in the 1940s by a leading civil servant, on one page he concludes all that I have just said, ie, the Kings writ cannot apply in the Palatinate of Lancaster, the old bugger would not lend me the book, he said that they were all withdrawn by the publisher because of it,s content, logically the government had some say in this, I said that this sounded like a conspiracy, he agreed, I doubted it, so he said go to the Library and find the book, Went to Manchester central library and found it, same title, same author, EXCEPT THAT IS WAS ONLY 10 % OF THE SIZE THAT I SAW!!!! all the relevant info had been removed, it was just a small history of the Duchy, that,s how the publisher reprinted it, mmmmhhhh what do you think of that then,
I am a Preston lad, where are you from, regards Walter

[Mathos]

Originally Posted by wanderering walter

Hi Mathos me again, I used to live off Watling St Rd back in the 50s in my parents house, about half a mile from the Barracks !! just a thought on the Duke of Lancaster bit, as you know its now called the Duchy of Lancaster which includes vasts amounts of lands thruout the UK, all belonging to the Sovereign, now here,s the weird thing, there is always in the government a Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, why? because its tradition, no , he is the one who usurps the Queens legal power in order to "legitimise parliament" Back in the 70s I knew an old buffer who knew about all this , Hugh Thornton from Kirkham, he had this book entitled The Duchy of Lancaster written in the 1940s by a leading civil servant, on one page he concludes all that I have just said, ie, the Kings writ cannot apply in the Palatinate of Lancaster, the old bugger would not lend me the book, he said that they were all withdrawn by the publisher because of it,s content, logically the government had some say in this, I said that this sounded like a conspiracy, he agreed, I doubted it, so he said go to the Library and find the book, Went to Manchester central library and found it, same title, same author, EXCEPT THAT IS WAS ONLY 10 % OF THE SIZE THAT I SAW!!!! all the relevant info had been removed, it was just a small history of the Duchy, that,s how the publisher reprinted it, mmmmhhhh what do you think of that then,
I am a Preston lad, where are you from, regards Walter

I'm what we call 'gob-smacked' after reading that outstanding post Walter.

Did you ever inquire or kick up a fuss as to the brutalising of the original book?


I'm a Mancunian Walter, born in Blackley (Crumpsall Hospital).

I moved to Leyland when I was seventeen and I've been here ever since.

That would be March 1963. Preston North end were in the final of the FA Cup
the following year 1964 but unfortunately lost to West Ham.

The name on every PNE supporters lips in them days was 'Dawson'

They have a ceremony in a pub in Bamber Bridge as well, like a funeral if PNE go down a division and the buried coffin comes up if they go up. I'll have to find a bit more information out regarding that.

A 'Gradely Town'

Watling Street Road, your talking real Preston there Walter. Nice area and Fulwood barracks on your Mum and Dads doorstep so to speak.

You raised some very interesting issues above as well Walter.

I've taken a little information regarding The Duchy of Lancaster from Wikipedia.

The Duchy of Lancaster was created for John of Gaunt, a younger son of King Edward III of England, when John had acquired its constituent lands through marriage to the Lancaster heiress. As the Lancaster inheritance it goes back to 1265, when Henry III granted to his younger son, Edmund, lands forfeited by Simon de Montfort, Earl of Leicester. In 1266 the estates of Robert de Ferrers, 6th Earl of Derby, [1] another of the protagonists in the Second Barons' War, were added. In 1267 the estate was formerly granted as the County, Honour and Castle of Lancaster. In 1284 Edmund was given the Manor of Savoy by his mother, Queen Eleanor, the niece of the original grantee, Peter II, Count of Savoy. King Edward III raised Lancashire into a county palatine in 1351, the then holder, Henry of Grosmont, Edmund's grandson, was made Duke of Lancaster. After his death a charter of 1362 conferred the dukedom on his son-in-law John of Gaunt, Earl of Lancaster, and the heirs male of his body lawfully begotten for ever.
The first act of King Henry IV was to declare that the Lancastrian inheritance be held separately from the other possessions of the Crown, and should descend to his male heirs. This separation of identities was confirmed in 1461 by Edward IV when he incorporated the inheritance and the palatinate responsibilities under the title of the Duchy of Lancaster, and stipulated that it be held separate from other inheritances by him and his heirs, Kings of England. The Duchy thereafter effectively passed to the reigning monarch and its separate identity preserved it in 1760 from being surrendered with the Crown Estates in exchange for the Civil List. It is primarily a landed inheritance belonging to the reigning sovereign.

The duchy is not the property of The Crown, but is instead the personal (inherited) property of the monarch and has been since 1399, when the Dukedom of Lancaster, held by Henry of Bolingbroke, merged with the crown on his appropriation of the throne (after the dispossession from Richard II). The Loyal Toast, 'The Queen, the Duke of Lancaster' is still in regular use within the Duchy.
The chief officer of the Duchy is the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, a high position which is sometimes a cabinet post. Since for at least the last two centuries the estate has been run by a deputy, the Chancellor rarely has had any significant duties pertaining to management of the Duchy itself. He is usually available as a minister without portfolio. In recent times his duties, administrative, financial and legal, have been said to occupy an average of one day a week.
The monarch derives the Privy Purse from the revenues of the Duchy. The surplus for the year ended 31 March 2005 was £9.811 million and the Duchy was valued at nearly £310 million[2]. The lands of the Duchy are not to be confused with the Crown Estate, whose revenues have been handed to the Treasury in exchange for receiving a yearly civil list payment since the 18th century.
Both the Duchy of Lancaster and its counterpart in Cornwall have special statutory rights not available to other estates held by Peers, counties palatine - for example Bona Vacantia operates in the advantage of the Duke rather than the Crown throughout the historic Duchy.[3]
There are also separate Attorneys General for the estates. Generally, though, the exemptions all tend to follow the same line: any rights pertaining to the Crown generally in most areas of the country instead pertain to the Duke of the Duchy. Generally, any Act of Parliament relating to these sorts of rights will specifically set out the special exemptions for the two Duchies and specify the extent to which they apply to the Duchy. They are also, however, subject to strict regulation, especially with respect to auditing and alienation of land. Officers of the Duchy include the Vice-Chancellor, the Attorney-General of the Duchy of Lancaster and Attorney and Serjeant within the County Palatine


This obviously has some bearing on the knowledge Hugh Thornton acquired from his original copy of the book you mentioned {The Duchy of Lancaster}.

The obvious planning problems encountered by the family you refer to regarding Preston Magistrates Court, that must have made them stand to attention, I reckon the 'Chairman' at the time would have had kittens.

It's a long time since i heard the name of A FRIEND OF THE COURT.

You deserve a medal yourself for retaining such excellent memory of outstanding value.

Well done Walter. Every Credit to you.

[wanderering walter]

Hi MATHOS I remember 1 thing in the 70s, some people I knew were having trouble with the local council about where they lived a caravan and 2 sheds on their land, The councl wanted them off and took them to Preston Mag Court, half way through this guy Hugh Thornton addressed the court ( as a friend of the court ) warning them of illegally rubber stamping parliaments authority over the sovereigns, in other words they were committing an offence, The court retired and 10 mins later reappeared asking if the Friend of the Court was Hugh Thornton, he was, they then announced that the case would be deferred until later, 1 year later the council announced that the family could stay until the death of the mother, then leave, Mother died 25 years ago, the family are still there, Thornton said that after the court appearance and his comments the case would be quietly forgotten about, he was right,

[Propagator]

Originally Posted by Mathos

I was curious regarding this particular young beauty, it looked superb but I couldn't be certain what it was. Any assistance in naming it would be appreciated.

Difficult to see from picture but looks like one of the Maples

[Mathos]

Originally Posted by Propagator

Difficult to see from picture but looks like one of the Maples

Cheers Propagator, Flobo agrees with you.

It's a nice looking tree in any event.

Thanks Pal.

[SueB]

Mathos, I hope you don't mind, but I've "grabbed" your picture of the country lane (at very top of the first page I think) for my desktop.
It so reminds me of my childhood holidays in Lancashire, when we used to stay on a farm in the middle of nowhere.

As young kids, my brother and I used to walk for what seemed like miles and miles down lanes just like that. A truly beautiful part of the world, given the right weather!

Sue

[Mathos]

Originally Posted by SueB

Mathos, I hope you don't mind, but I've "grabbed" your picture of the country lane (at very top of the first page I think) for my desktop.
It so reminds me of my childhood holidays in Lancashire, when we used to stay on a farm in the middle of nowhere.

As young kids, my brother and I used to walk for what seemed like miles and miles down lanes just like that. A truly beautiful part of the world, given the right weather!

Sue

You too Sue and welcome to TeakDoor.

I don't mind you using the photograph at all,
in fact I'm glad you find it worthy of using as a desk-top.

Again, it's kind of special when a memory is rekindled,
more so if it's a good memory and your reflection
on the past sounded full of joy.

That makes a lot of things more than worth while.


It's somewhat akin to a clear reflection in water,
memories are made of things like this.

Reminds me of some of the tales Flobo reflects on
from her childhood, holidaying in a caravan by the
coast at Cockerham Sands



Special.


Really nice to see a new face (so to speak) reading the thread.

Mathos.

[Mathos]

Some of the spots we come across from
time to time are amazingly attractive.


Autumn on the offering right now means
we lose a considerable amount of the
seasonal verdancy.





It's still very nice to look at though.


A few more weeks and all the leaves will have fallen,
the plants and grasses die back, it's a totally different
picture.



Still plenty of beauty on a different sighting though.



You cannot see down country lanes like
this once the trees start sprouting.




Flobo getting blown about in the windy winter.



I'll get battered for putting that on. Sorry Flobo.



But it's all so super.


This is a great Country Lane.



You have to watch these bends as well.

[Mathos]

People bridges.





Quite a bridge to construct out of stone across the River Sett.


At Milldale you cross the packhorse bridge
now known as Viator's Bridge,
named after a character from
Isaac Walton's book the Complete Angler.





Well marked for the users benefit.

I think it's great how they go to so much
trouble in making sure all
the i's are dotted and the t's are crossed.

This is a brilliant link, it has quite a bit of information on
regarding Ravens Tor as well SLKH.

You might find this of interest.

Dove Dale to MilldaleThe path continues following the River Dove towards Milldale. At Milldale you cross the packhorse bridge now known as Viator's Bridge, named after a ...
Dove Dale to Milldale - Cached - Similar



Brilliant place to walk especially.



Great fishing I understand as well.

This would suit Happyman.

[wanderering walter]

Hi Mathos know the Stork at Condor Green well, a farmer I know bought it in the 60s I think for 8000GBP + 4000GBP for the 2 cannons that were chained outside, He sold it some years back and got 40.000 GBP for the cannons!! he told me one night that some idiot hitched up one of the guns to his landrover and drove off through Lancaster in the middle of the night, obviously the clanking of the old wheels attracted the attention of the Fuzz and he was arrested forthwith!!! The guns came off a Man o War visiting Glasson dock as it was an important port in those days including shamefully involvement with slavery,

[Mathos]

Originally Posted by wanderering walter

Hi Mathos know the Stork at Condor Green well, a farmer I know bought it in the 60s I think for 8000GBP + 4000GBP for the 2 cannons that were chained outside, He sold it some years back and got 40.000 GBP for the cannons!! he told me one night that some idiot hitched up one of the guns to his landrover and drove off through Lancaster in the middle of the night, obviously the clanking of the old wheels attracted the attention of the Fuzz and he was arrested forthwith!!! The guns came off a Man o War visiting Glasson dock as it was an important port in those days including shamefully involvement with slavery,

Another one as well.

Great stories Walter. Thanks once again mate.

It was a really nice pub/hotel/restaurant, it's situated on the estuary of The River Lune.

The old coaching inn dates back to at least 1660. Inside the bar, there is a plaque on the wall naming various Landlords, their time spent as Landlords and years applicable. The plaque was dated back to about the mid 1660's. {I should have taken a photograph of that} Isn't hindsight a grand thing.

There are pleasant gardens with a very deep well which is grated over.


The photograph below shows the well.

That Fern is amazing, growing out of the stone sides.







All in all a really nice place and the people we spoke to working there were 'gradely folk'

This shows the garden area behind the 'Stork'
The dining tables are nicely set out.
The staff were telling me that summer trade,
especially nice days, ensured a full house.


It certainly looked inviting.








The next photograph is from Glasson dock, actually the area known as 'Glasson Basin' if my memory serves me right.




There are some nice boats at Glasson.

NB Walter. Once again, see how your comments regarding Glasson, can lead to other zones of discussion.

Well done Pal.

[wanderering walter]

Just to return to the Duchy theme I did not pursue shrinking book phenomena, it was 25 years since the original publication and reasoned that I would not get far with any investigation, regarding a conspiracy involving the Duchy, I think this is too strong a word, whilst we still have a Monarch the original declaration by Henry IV still stands so successive governments have Circumvented this by legal shenanikins so that their WILL can implemented. If you or I did this we would end up in the Dukes Lancaster Prison !!! As Thornton said at the time irrespective of the consequences the law applies to one and all , still Politicians are always a law unto themselves, I wonder if the rule that our parliamentarians are excempt from any legal action for any comments made in the house are linked to the Duchys special circumstances and that they have adopted the privileges !!! If you abolish the monarchy and made a Republic I suppose that would solve the problem, it all depends on Henrys declaration that what he set up was forever and cannot be dismantled even if you declare a Republic, food for thought I suppose, either way the B+++++ds will still be a Thorn-(ton) in our sides, politicians that is,
My dad played for P.N.E in the 30s, in the reserve team, he was at the end of his career by then, he played in goal for Dundee United back in the 20s, then Cowdenbeth, Luton Town and Chorley, finally in the reserves at Preston, He was one of a pair of 99% identical twins , his brother also played football, they would frequently swap positions and clubs just to annoy the ref etc until they got caught and got a real bollicking! his name was Chick McIntosh, I remember years ago my friend and I were at my parents house , we left the room were my dad was watching TV ,as we opened the front door there was my dad!!! my mate Colin was stunned, he said Chick how the hell did you get there? he went back to the room and there was Chick watching TV, Christ theres two of em, my uncle had a habit of visiting un-announced,
Wnen my dad died in 1981 he was cremated at Preston Crem, whilst waiting outsde my uncle arrived to the consternation of the gathering, he still looked like Chick with the result that a women fainted thinking he had returned from the dead,

[wanderering walter]

Christ I am here again!! found out the details of the author of the Duchy of Lancaster, ( sir ) Robert Somerville, a well known civil servant with unprecedented knowledge of the Duchy, if you look at his referances on the box ,he is number ONE,

[wanderering walter]

he has written many books on the subject, I contacted the Duchy office who made referance to the book The Duchy of Lancaster, London, 1946, ( knew I was right ) I asked them for info on the book, the real one, and how I could see /buy a copy, will let you know the result.

PS bet you think that I AM BORING, WELL AT OUR AGE NOTHING MUCH EXCITES ME/US, SPEAK FOR YOURSELF, I AM, anyway that PNE/West Ham finished 3/2, a young Howard Kendal made his debut then