Beautiful Lancashire

[Mathos]

We were quite intrigued and somewhat surprised by the ruins of The abbey at Sawley.




There were some workers on the site, cleaning around the ruins and gently removing moss from the stones which had no doubt formed throughout the summer months, helped along by the poor weather conditions I rather thought.

Rain,and sunshine all summer.




The ruins gave you the feeling that it must have been a hell of a tremendous Abbey.

I wonder if they will ever re-instate the same to it's original condition and glory.



It's amazing, looking on the remains of an all most thousand year old ruin of what must have been a tremendously beautiful building, such an interesting and spectacular episode deserves total restoration in my book.



I always think all of the ruins in this country should be restored. Maybe I am wrong in my considerations, who really knows.



Knowing we have the technology and knowledge to appreciate how the same must have looked from the sections which are still standing, must surely be favourable support for such a challenge.



We certainly have the right calibre of masons to carry out such a project as well.



I rather think a project of such magnitude 'Nationwide' would be a very fruitful undertaking as well.




It's certainly a brilliant ruin in all aspects though and still draws large numbers of tourists according to the information gleaned regarding the same.



It's something else when you take a real good first hand look at it though.

[Mathos]

The River Ribble runs along side the village as well, it was rather swollen with all the rain of late.



I remember the area suffering quite badly from flooding just a few years ago.


County swamped in flooding chaos


Water has been gushing down village streets

Heavy flooding caused chaos in towns and villages across Lancashire on Friday, forcing a school to close and making some roads impassable.
Residents at Galgate in north Lancashire and at Bolton-by-Bowland in the Ribble Valley have been mopping up after water flooded into their homes.
Fisher More High School in Colne was closed, and is due to reopen on Monday.
A car got stuck in 4ft of water near the Spread Eagle Pub at Sawley in the Ribble Valley.
Firefighters are pumping away thousands of tonnes of water after the River Condor burst its banks in Galgate with the area around Salford Road hardest hit.

"We're trying to make the properties safe and a bit more habitable.
"We've spent around two hours moving thousands of tonnes back into the river further down stream," said assistant divisional fire officer Alan Walker.
"The residents have been absolutely fantastic. There have been young children assisting, the elderly assisting because it is their village, they are really controlling the mop up."
In Waddington, water was gushing down the main street.
"It's been a sickener," said John Ashworth, who restores cars.

"We've had two Aston Martins with three foot of water in them.
"All the interior is wrecked and the engine is flooded causing thousands of pounds worth of damage."
Flooded street
At Bolton-by-Bowland flooding affected properties all along the high street.
"We were all flooded," said sub-post mistress Angela Smith.
"The main street seems to go down in a dip, residents higher up out of the actual way were not affected." In Colne, the caretaker at Fisher More RC High School discovered several inches of water in the building when he opened up at 0615 BST. "It's been disastrous for us, it's such a busy time of year," said headteacher Brendan Convoy.




It's quite a spectacular Bridge across The Ribble at Sawley as well.




The School was more than amazing, spectacular, original, unique.. How do you address such a masterpiece as this

[Mathos]

There were a couple of properties for sale in the area.




I haven't checked the prices as yet, but I will do in due course.

{If anybody has the time and notion to check this one out, please do so, I'm happy with that}




The Village itself had a lot going for it too. Very attractive from one end to the other. Impressive to say the least.





The River looked quite menacing though and several sections of the flood plain areas were supporting heavy deposits of flood water from the same.



A great deal of work has been carried out in these locations over the years by the authorities.




It's a good job too, judging by the look of the River in general.

Awesome in places.

The photographs don't really do the power and force the justice required.

[Happyman]

Originally Posted by Mathos

There were a couple of properties for sale in the area.




I haven't checked the prices as yet, but I will do in due course.

Riverside !!!
Now you have really pissed me off !

Mind you if the fishing rights are included it would pay for itself in 10 years if you rented the rights out and sold day tickets and served snacks (or something stronger) on the terrace !!

Cheers !

[Mathos]

Bolton By Bowland was another charming little village to visit.

The green supported the remains of a 13th century cross and also some very handsome stocks.




They had certain manners of sorting things out, once upon a time...





The original name of the village recorded in the Domesday book was 'BODETON' meaning bow in the river.

The village has some very interesting history as well.

A little here from The Internet:-

The village of Bolton-by-Bowland

To those of us lucky enough to live here, Bolton-by-Bowland is a pretty working village with an extremely strong community spirit. It nestles in the hills and dales of the Ribble Valley, some 5 miles north-east of Clitheroe and 14 miles west of Skipton.

The parish of Bolton-by-Bowland stretches for several miles and encompasses the attractive hamlets of Holden and Forest Becks, as well as the picture postcard Anna Lane.

Arguably the most attractive village in the Ribble Valley, Bolton-by-Bowland was first recorded in the Domesday Book in 1087 as ‘Bodeton’, a derivative of bothl-tun which is Old English meaning an enclosure with dwellings; in other words a hamlet.

The village’s next claim to fame arose in 1464 when Henry VI sought shelter with Ralph Pudsey at Bolton Hall after his defeat by the Yorkists at the battle of Hexham during the ‘War of the Roses’. A somewhat strange haven, for Henry was a Lancastrian and in 1464 Bolton-by-Bowland was in the Craven District of Yorkshire! Legend has it that during the twelve months he spent at Bolton Hall, Henry is alleged to have found a natural spring by dowsing, and the well is still within the Bolton Estate.


There is documentary evidence of a Church in the village in 1190, but the existing Church owes much to the generosity of the local landowners and residents of Bolton Hall, the Pudsays, who during the 13th, 14th, 15th and early 16th centuries supervised and paid for the improvements and extensions to the fabric of the building. It is uncertain where the Pudsays originated for the first time the name appears was when Simon de Pudsay married Katherine, daughter of Richard de Bolton, in 1312, and the Pudsay name remained in the village until the death of Bridget Pudsay at Bolton Hall in 1770. In the Church is the tomb of the 15th century landowner, Sir Ralph Pudsey, his three wives and twenty-five children!
( I bet he had a bad back problem)

A short walk from the village is Rainsber Scar, which is a beautiful spot but known locally as Pudsays Leap, where William Pudsay is said to have made the leap on horse back when being chased by the Customs for illegally minting his own coins. (According to legend his godmother, Queen Elizabeth I pardoned him). A local cottage is called Mint Cottage – and not only for the quality of the herbs grown in its lovely garden!


There are two village greens, one of which houses the remains of the 13th century market cross and stocks, and is bordered by the beautifully maintained memorial garden. The war memorial clearly demonstrated the impact of the First World War for there are 26 names of men from the village who fought and died, including two sets of brothers and two cousins.

The village boasts a thriving Cricket Club (see Web Page), an oft-used Village Hall, a Public House, Antique Shop, and Post Office and Tea Rooms where village residents have enjoyed many a televised sporting event!!

During the summer months Bolton-by-Bowland is visited by tourists and relatively local people just wishing to enjoy a day out and perhaps a walk in beautiful surroundings. We who live here feel lucky and proud to reside in an area that attracts visitors – and the good thing is we do not take our village and its surrounding area for granted. We enjoy it also.

Bolton-by-Bowland is mentioned in the Domesday Book of 1086 - see below. If anyone is interested, they can buy more details for only £3.50 from the National Archives.

An interesting link here as well, regarding some old photographs especially.

Bolton By Bowland photos, maps, books, memories - Francis Frith
Bolton By Bowland old photos, old maps, books and memories from The Francis Frith Collection

[Mathos]

Originally Posted by Happyman

Riverside !!!
Now you have really pissed me off !

Mind you if the fishing rights are included it would pay for itself in 10 years if you rented the rights out or sold day tickets !!

Cheers !

What a spectacular place it was too.

Have you got a deposit on it yet?



Cheers..

[Mathos]

It was another absolutely beautiful village.




Really English.

Except for The VW Camper Van for sale



A great deal of very classy property in the locality as well.




Exceptionally nice.

The Village Pub looked good.



The information below is worth a read and link following.




Bolton-by-Bowland, Sawley and the Forest of Gisburn
Hostelries & Accommodation

The Coach and Horses
Country Inn, Restaurant & Accommodation
20 Main Street, Bolton-by-Bowland. Telephone: 01200 447202
Ross and Zak have re-opened the Coach & Horses. They offer a very warm welcome to customers old and new - the same warm welcome offered to weary travellers over the centuries. The old Coaching Inn overlooks the village green with its stocks and whipping post and is truly the village pub. Food is served every night and the style is high quality pub food. Click below to see a typical menu, the lunch offering and the wine list:

Typical Menu

Lunch & Sandwiches

Typical Wine List

Further information and a link to a new website will be provided soon.
The pub is open lunchtimes and evenings for food and drinks.

By the same token though, the Ribble still looked very meancing and we certainly kept an eye on it ourselves.

Must say though, it's a fantastic River and setting in general.

Absolutely beautiful.

[Mathos]

We had a really first class evening's entertainment at a boxing show we attended last night.

It started raining here approximately 9.30 am today, and it's still pouring down.

I had a few jobs that needed doing outside and got quite wet. That's life I suppose.

The guys in the trenches during the first World War for instance didn't have the option of going in-doors.



Water, water everywhere, and not a drop to drink.



I was looking at this photograph with the fancy cut privet hedge. There used to be a great number of hedges in the UK with fancy cuts, animals, birds, people, small cottages, cars etc.

Not so many nowadays unless they are in specialist attractions or some of the 'Stately Home' type gardens.

Obviously the cost of cutting the shapes and maintaining the same prohibit the features.

You do come across plenty in Thailand though. Elephants appear to be the most popular.




You can see Pendle Hill quite clearly on this photograph.

( A little 'Witch' info here from the Net with regard to Pendle Hill )
Pendle Hill Lancashire King James I of England hated witches and was determined to stamp out the practice of witchcraft. This led to an era of persecution for those who were rightly or wrongly accused of the practice. In 1612 local magistrates conducted witch hunts. As a result of these witch hunts was one of the most famous witch trails in the history of England. Alizon Device was arrested accused of putting a curse on a peddler, after he had refused to sell her some pins, which led him to be paralysed. Alizon admits to what she had done and the peddler forgives her, but his son brought it to the authorities’ attention. Alizon incriminates two others Demdike and Chattox. Investigations took place at Demdikes home Malkin towers and human bones and clay figures were found which were of people who had died in recent years.

The magistrates continued their witch hunt and arrested 11 in total

Alizon Device

Elizabeth Device

James Device

Alison Whittle (Chattox)

Anne Redferne

Alice Nutter

Katherine Hewitt

John Bulcock

Jane Bulcock

Isobel Robey

And Elizabeth Southerns (Demdike)

They were all imprisoned at Lancaster Castle and tried on the 17th August.

Demdike died whilst awaiting trail but was still considered to be a witch based on the evidence they had gathered, the others were publicly hanged.

Also besides these there was Jennet Preston who lived just over the Lancashire Border, she was tried in Yorkshire and hanged at York and Margaret Pearson, who was found guilty of witchcraft but not of murder, she was given a prison sentence of one year.

Magistrates wondered why the witches incriminated others, but they found out that Demdike and Chattox used to be friends but fell out over some stolen clothes and this resulted in them and their family’s feuding, and this was probably the reason they did it, to seek revenge and to retaliate against each other.

Demdike had said in her confession that the usual way that they had used to kill their victims were to make an ethigy of the intended victim and then over a period of time would crumble or burn it and this would cause the victim to fall ill and die.

[Mathos]

The Clocks go back an hour tonight in The UK that's a sure sign of winter coming in. The forecast for the coming week is warning of wintry conditions.

Better get the 'Hot Water Bottles' out of storage.



There's quite a large ski slope in this area of Lancashire. Couple of my grandsons are into skiing.

I used to enjoy taking my daughters sledging, always found an inverted car bonnet made the best sledge. They didn't half come down those hill sides at a pace.




That's probably why they don't let me take the lads.

The above photographs show some areas of landscape that certainly don't look at all natural, I hope Happyman can enlighten me. They could just be deposits from the road building of course. I don't know.



This close up though, appears to show some form of man made structure built from stone and covered with earth.

Maybe I'm wrong.

[Mathos]

Phil Spector is having a rant in the background at present.

Some of the productions of his, resonate with all the Spector type past events of his life, and perhaps the future to come.

Is he guilty?


He reckons he has done more for folk than most in the music industry especially.

This was the Village Church in Downham.



Another beautiful building.




The interior also. Superb.




It's nice to know that some of these villages are still able to leave the doors un-locked.

How it should be.

The stone font is nice, and the bell ringing room quite amazing in a manner of speaking.




The Church St Leonard's was approximately nine hundred years old, according to one of the locals I asked.

There is some interesting information with additional informative links taken from the Net here:-

St Leonard, Downham - Church of England


St Leonard,
Chatburn Road,
Downham
Lancashire
Click pictures to enlarge.
Inside the church


<DIV id=mainr>Cemeteries

The church has/had a graveyard. Church History

It was founded before 1284. Church Records

Whilst every effort has been made to record exact details of record office and library holdings you are recommended to check with them before visiting to ensure that they do hold the records and years you wish to examine. Similarly check with transcript publishers to ensure they cover the records and years you require before making a purchase.
Register Transcripts





The Lancashire Parish Register Society have published:

• Volume 118 - Bap, Mar & Bur 1606-1837.

A spectacular location in general.




Beautiful.

[Mathos]

It's always interesting from a personal point of view that is, to take a photograph of an area that simply turns the mind over in it's simplicity.




These two were two such scenes, I liked them.




Everything about both photographs had a certain fascination for me on a personal level.

They still do.

[Mathos]

I may have mentioned it earlier on this thread, can't remember though.

With regards to Witches.

There is one book that rreally desrves a good reading:-

The Malleus Maleficarum (Kramer and Sprenger)

"The Hammer of Witches"



The Malleus Maleficarum (Latin for “The Hammer of Witches”, or “Hexenhammer” in German) is one of the most famous medieval treatises on witches. It was written in 1486 by Heinrich Kramer and Jacob Sprenger, and was first published in Germany in 1487. Its main purpose was to challenge all arguments against the existence of witchcraft and to instruct magistrates on how to identify, interrogate and convict witches.

Some modern scholars believe that Jacob Sprenger contributed little if anything to the work besides his name, but the evidence to support this is weak. Both men were members of the Dominican Order and Inquisitors for the Catholic Church. They submitted the Malleus Maleficarum to the University of Cologne’s Faculty of Theology on May 9, 1487, seeking its endorsement.

While general consensus is that The Catholic Church banned the book in 1490 by placing it on the Index Librorum Prohibitorum (”List of Prohibited Books”), the first Index was, in fact, produced in 1559 under the direction of Pope Paul IV.

Therefore such claims are dubious, at best. I believe people are confusing the fact that the Inquisition reportedly denounced Heinrich Kramer in 1490 as being a ban upon the Malleus Maleficarum. Thus far, I’ve yet to find the Malleus on any Index Librorum Prohibitorum (copies of which are available on the Internet - most notably the 1559 and 1948 editions).


The papal bull, which appeared at the beginning of the book, could rightly be said to be misleading, because it addresses Kramer’s and Sprenger’s authorities as Inquisitors in certain lands, not the creation of the Malleus Maleficarum. The Catholic Encyclopedia states “Innocent’s Bull enacted nothing new. Its direct purport was simply to ratify the powers already conferred upon Henry Institoris and James Sprenger, inquisitors, to deal with persons of every class and with every form of crime (for example, with witchcraft as well as heresy), and it called upon the Bishop of Strasburg to lend the inquisitors all possible support.” So Kramer treated the bull as if it was an endorsement of his book, but it was not. However, the inclusion of the bull certainly gave the impression that the Malleus Maleficarum had been granted approval by Pope Innocent VIII.


Some believe that the Letter of Approbation from The Faculty of Theology of the University of Cologne was a falsified document. General consensus is that Heinrich Kramer brought the Malleus Maleficarum before the University of Cologne requesting an endorsement, but was rebuffed. Tradition has it that Kramer forged the document that he included with his work, that he and James Sprenger parted ways on bad terms, and that Kramer was denounced by the Inquisition in 1490. One would expect, however, that had such a document been forged, Mr. Kramer would not have subsequently been able to conduct very popular lectures in Venice starting in 1495, much less be empowered to proceed against the Waldensians and Picards in 1500.


I believe it’s much more likely that the Letter of Approbation was genuine, but that the Malleus itself was never actually read by the gentlemen who endorsed it. I think it’s much more likely that Dr. Edward Peters was correct when, in his section of the work Witchcraft and Magic in Europe: Volume Three - The Middle Ages [page 239], he stated; “The approval of the theological faculty of Cologne was arranged through a complicated series of academic negotiations – it, too, does not address the remarkable qualities of the work itself. It is doubtful whether Innocent VIII or the theological faculty of Cologne ever read the work.”


Also, according to Dr. Christopher Mackay, whose recent translation represents a reliable modern scholarly edition of the Malleus Maleficarum, “The argument was made in the nineteenth century by a scholar hostile to what the Malleus stood for that the approbation was a forgery by Institoris and that Sprenger had nothing to do with the composition. The evidence for this is in my view very tenuous (and the main argument is clearly invalid). Nonetheless, once the argument was put forward, it took on a life of its own, and people continue to advance arguments in favor of the idea that Sprenger’s involvement was a falsification perpetrated by Institoris, despite the fact that this argument was vitiated from the start.”


Whether or not the work was ever officially banned by the Catholic Church, the Malleus Maleficarum became the de-facto handbook for witch-hunters and Inquisitors throughout Late Medieval Europe. Between the years 1487 and 1520, it was published thirteen times, and between 1574 to 1669 it was again published sixteen times.


The Malleus Maleficarum perhaps owes most of its popularity to Johannes Gutenberg. It was the invention of the printing press in the middle of the fifteenth century that allowed the work to spread so rapidly throughout Europe.
- Wicasta Lovelace
References & Links

- Wikipedia - Malleus Maleficarum

- Cornell University - Malleus Maleficarum (Latin text)

- Original Site Introduction

- Wicasta Lovelace

[Mathos]

An additional superb view here from the Church Cemetery at St Leonard's, looking across the valley towards Pendle Hill.





The Village Post Office had a lot on offer as well.




Superb building, with café facilities and outside eating section for 'nicer days'

[Mathos]

The pure beauty in a scene like this is almost indescribable. It's no surprise to me to learn that this village is an extremely favourite haunt of artists and painters.





What a gorgeous scene the above would make if painted.


Some artists could really play about with that. Remove the modern road and cars,
street lamp and anything else of a modern nature (including the cone) and let go with a dirt road in place and perhaps a stage coach.





Words fail me at times.




A little from The Net to close the posts for tonight.

This majestic, but brooding hill lies east of Clitheroe, set amongst a number of villages. It is a very romantic hill, spiritually associated with George Fox's vision in 1652, the 17th century Lancashire Witches, and the location both for the book "Mist over Pendle" and the film "Whistle Down the Wind".

The hill stands at 1827 ft and varies in width from one to three miles. The top offers breathtaking views across the Forest of Bowland, the Yorkshire Dales and on clear days, the Lake District.

The historical relevance of Pendle Hill gives it a bleak and eerie quality. It was used as a burial ground in the Bronze age and a 7,000 year old burial mound can be found on the top. More recently in the 17th century the events which led to the hanging of the Pendle Witches took place. The evidence against them was hardly conclusive, but nonetheless a considerable mythology has grown up around the witches, whose memory is perpetuated by a hilltop gathering each Halloween.

Forty years after these events, George Fox claimed to have seen a vision of God on the summit, which led him to form the Quaker Movement. People still follow his route today in remembrance of the 1652 assent. ("As we traveled, we came near a very great hill, called Pendle Hill, and I was moved of the Lord to go up to the top of it; which I did with difficulty, it was so very steep and high. When I was come to the top, I saw the sea bordering upon Lancashire. From the top of this hill the Lord let me see in what places he had a great people to be gathered." from : - Journal of George Fox, Chapter VI, A New Era Begins, 1652)

The Lancashire witches

Pendle HillPendle Hill has special significance for the Quaker movement, as it was here that George Fox had his vision which led to the formation of the Quaker religion in 1652. But the hill is most famous because of the legend of the Lancashire Witches. SEE ALSO WEB LINKS Lancaster Castle
FACTSMother Demdike died awaiting trail at the age of 80.

It was during the reign of King James I that Old Mother Demdike and Old Chattox, two old widows living near Pendle Hill, and other members of their families, were accused of witchcraft and were sent to Lancaster Castle for trial.
In total 19 people local to the Pendle area were put in the dark, 30 feet below ground in a small dungeon in Lancaster Castle, and kept there for five months on a diet of bread and gruel. When they were tried five months later they could hardly speak.

There was no counsel or legal advice, and the star prosecution witness, who they could not challenge, was nine years old. Mother Demdike died awaiting trail at the age of 80.

Ten of them were hanged on 20th August 1612. There was no drop involved, meaning a slow strangulation in front of large crowds who had travelled to Lancaster for the spectacle.

By the time of the last English witchcraft trial in 1712, up to 1,000 people had been executed. One event was famously and offically recorded as "The wonderful discovery of witches in Lancashire."

Almost 400 years later witches are part of the local identity in Pendle, and they brand everything from beer to hot air balloons. The places in their story have become part of a tourist trail.

There is even a campaign to pardon them.

Have you had a ghostly experience in Lancashire? Tell us your spooky stories

[Mathos]

I think it's the time of year when colds and all sorts of health disorders start rearing their ugly heads. Most folk I talk to are complaining of not feeling 100% and they have a cough, sneezes or headaches. Or all the lost.

Myself, I have a cough and a sore throat it's probably a bug. I went out on the bike today, but didn't feel good enough to do more than a ten mile pedal. Temperature was up and I felt tired and breathless. So I came back earlier than I normally do. Glad as well, I'd just got home and the heavens opened again.

There were a lot of people stranded in the Lake District as well yesterday. There were about 2500 of them doing a 'fell run' complete with back packs and tents, enough food for 36 hours and that was probably a good thing. About 700 were stranded up there in really bad weather. They got them all back today, no loss of life or anything like that. Some cases of hypothermia though.

We had our lunch in this really nice pub in Downham.



Nice rooms, cute traditional bar.

I remember when all pubs looked like this.





I meant to take photographs of the dishes, but we got talking and it slipped my mind.

Next time.





The pub was empty when we got in. We timed it just right though. It soon filled up. It had a busy run for lunch.

The food was exceptionally good.



Pity the open coal fire had been replaced with a gas unit. That's life I suppose. It still generated a nice cosy feeling of warmth.


There's quite a bit of history associated with the village and the pub 'The Assheton Arms'

The Assheton Arms - Downham
Nestling in the lea of Pendle Hill, The Assheton Arms in Downham, near Clitheroe is a delightful, traditional country pub situated in a picturesque village ...
www.assheton-arms.co.uk/ - 10k - Cached - Similar pages

This is an exceptionally good link, it gives the opportunity to discover quite a bit out with regards to the history and more besides.

There are several links to the

History

Menu

Places

Film and TV

Assheton Arms information and the family history in a potted manner.





Superb location as I have previously mentioned.

[Mathos]

There doesn't appear to be a shortage of country pubs either.

Interesting to note that there aren't very many up for sale or lease in these locations either. The pubs in towns and suburbia certainly appear to be in their death throes thats for sure.




We came across this large bird as well. I'm not sure what it was to be honest. I thought it might be a Pheasant (a hen that is) the cock is a colourful bird. The hen is quite plain and can blend into the surroundings whilst sitting on her eggs.




A few more weeks and the leaves will all have fallen, it will give a totally different view then.




The beauty of the seasons.



I somehow or another downloaded a photograph of my fish pond. I thought it looked OK so I left it on board. The pic was probably taken about May/June, I didn't check the properties.

[Mathos]

A couple of nice property type photographs here as well, I find the stone buildings so attractive.



The cottages as shown here were exceptionally nice.





The actual terrace run appeared to go on for ever.




There's not a great deal of costs to consider with regards to exterior maintenance either.

My own house is rendered, pebble-dashed and painted. It's expensive to have it painted on the outside.

[nipper]

Beautifull photos, I'm rubbish with a camera.

[Mathos]

Originally Posted by nipper

Beautifull photos, I'm rubbish with a camera.

Cheers nipper.

I'm not really good with a camera, it's really the scene doing the photograph justice.


Thanks for the input though it's appreciated.


Sometimes, I feel like I'm in a clairvoyants meeting on these pages:-

"Is anybody there?"


Welcome to TeakDoor as well!

[Mathos]

There's quite a bit of interest in claims of 'Hauntings' in the UK at present .

Haunted places, television programmes with regards to the same.


Britains most haunted cottage




Residents in Denbigh criticised Living TVs Most Haunted

Residents in Denbigh criticised Living TVs Most Haunted over a Halloween programme, Village of the Damned, from a former mental hospital.




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I'll probably get back to the thread properly in a day or two, right now I'm trying to make a connection,

'Is anybody there yet?'