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Old 14-09-2008, 05:45 AM   #541 (permalink)
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Is the green pole for cell phones ?

Don't know who, I suppose it could be, but I think I would have come across others like or similar to it.

However, if you put the picture to your photograph manager and enlarge it screen size, there is a black cable (possibly cable) going off the top into the trees and the cable runs down the side of the pole halfway uncovered and then in the protective metal tube down below.

So I doubt it being a phone mast very much, obviously it cannot be ruled out though.

It could have something to do with the river, perhaps a flood early warning advice.

Then again, it may be his own personal fishing line..

No, I think it's something quite special or unique.

I have never seen one like that.

Thanks for your input though who.
The only time I have seen similar things like that green pole is in the older streets of Wolverhampton !
There they are vents for communual cesspits or sewers
Can't imagine that there would be either so close to the river though !
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These steps were really attractive as well.

It's brilliant that people are able to make use of such fantastic amenities to travel across parts of the countryside simply set aside for walking.



I'm pretty certain this was The River Rawthey as well.




The Rawthey then finds it's way into the River Lune.





We are indeed extremely fortunate in having such natural beauty in such a small country.

Amazing.




This was a beautiful spot too. I had to stop the car and catch this it was really nice.



Just talking with Flobo about some of these places, it's going to give us a busy few months during autumn and winter retracing our steps and going elsewhere too.

I'm going to have to shape up with my work load. I normally wind up mid December, but I'll be looking to get finished for mid November this year. That leaves me with a very busy few weeks ahead, I hope the weather improves somewhat.
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Is the green pole for cell phones ?

Don't know who, I suppose it could be, but I think I would have come across others like or similar to it.

However, if you put the picture to your photograph manager and enlarge it screen size, there is a black cable (possibly cable) going off the top into the trees and the cable runs down the side of the pole halfway uncovered and then in the protective metal tube down below.

So I doubt it being a phone mast very much, obviously it cannot be ruled out though.

It could have something to do with the river, perhaps a flood early warning advice.

Then again, it may be his own personal fishing line..

No, I think it's something quite special or unique.

I have never seen one like that.

Thanks for your input though who.
The only time I have seen similar things like that green pole is in the older streets of Wolverhampton !
There they are vents for communual cesspits or sewers
Can't imagine that there would be either so close to the river though !

Anything is possible Happyman, but I have enlarged it on my manager, there is no opening on top, and the cable which runs up the same through the protective tubing from ground level to a good ten foot high or so for safety reasons no doubt, has to be electric I would think.

I'm stumped for an answer though.



I've messed about with the photograph a little. You can see the cable better and the top etc with a quality fitting attached.

It's a peculiar set up though.

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Green pole mystery solved ( I think)

Sent the pic to a friend of mine who is a specialist in Victorian street furniture.

He came back almost straight away with this -

The pole is a typical early 20th C - pre- national grid - electricity pole !!
Before Nationalization every area had their own privately owned and operated generator serving a group of villages, and distribution was by a single main cable to each group of houses and, in the typical style of those times, they put decorative features on the pole to make the new-fangled thing more acceptable to the locals!

It seems that the National grid people re-used the existing pole - he reckons that somewhere in the little compound where it is , or on the wall of the building on the left , there will be a distribution panel for the surrounding houses !
In fact if the pic is maximized you can just about see the modern "Danger" sign on the side about 10ft up !

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Green pole mystery solved ( I think)

Sent the pic to a friend of mine who is a specialist in Victorian street furniture.

He came back almost straight away with this -

The pole is a typical early 20th C - pre- national grid - electricity pole !!
Before Nationalization every area had their own privately owned and operated generator serving a group of villages, and distribution was by a single main cable to each group of houses and, in the typical style of those times, they put decorative features on the pole to make the new-fangled thing more acceptable to the locals!

It seems that the National grid people re-used the existing pole - he reckons that somewhere in the little compound where it is , or on the wall of the building on the left , there will be a distribution panel for the surrounding houses !
In fact if the pic is maximized you can just about see the modern "Danger" sign on the side about 10ft up !

I'd concur with the above Happyman. Thanks a lot too, it had me baffled.

One of those days today, when one thing leads to another and everything ends up last minute rush, and then it's almost time for bed.

Thought I'd pop on for a couple of minutes though and place a couple of posts on line.

Looking at Churches again, and this one was a real beauty, but we couldn't gain access. There was some work going on around it, now either the weather had meant the men were laid off, or they had gone to pick up materials, what -ever, but it was all locked up.



Found some interesting pointers on The net though.

St Gregory's Church Vale of Lune.

It was built in the mid 1800's, and afforded preaching and prayer facilities for not only the locals, but the labour force working on the construction of the London and North Western Railway Line and Stations etc.

The Link below is worth clicking on.

  1. Vale of Lune - St Gregory's Church
There was a really nice cottage next door as well. Possibly connected but nobody appeared to be home here either, pity, because the whole scenario looked really interesting, and there was a sign stating the Church was open.




The cottage was neat, well maintained and very attractive. It appeared that windows on the side road, gable end had been bricked up at some stage. Perhaps when, the combustion engine' became a nuisance as opposed to the landau's and coaches.
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The Railway passed over the bridge on the photograph below. A double carriage diesel unit passed by whilst we were heading towards the same, but we missed the photograph opportunity.






This was a really big house, it appeared to be empty and didn't really suit the landscape in my opinion.

Maybe it had been a hotel at some stage of it's existence.



We were looking up from the rear end of the the same, there was a type of service road, but time was against us and it didn't fall into the important category at the time.

Flobo said 'It looks eerie'

So we gave it a miss.



There was so much beauty in this particular view, that we again thought of how brilliant it was to be there. The farmhouse looked outstanding, the peacefulness was radiating from the live stock and everything environmentally looked perfect.
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Last one for tonight.

This was another of those 'Real Pubs'

Looked good, excellent in fact.

Can't say I have ever come across a pub with the same name before either. It's possibly quite unique.




The steps leading to the first floor on the exterior looked fantastic.

I also like the flag sitting area to the left of the porch.

Nice,

I thought this next bit from the Net was worth placing on here too. Makes for a nice bit of alternative reading.



Yorkshire Dales Coaching Inn accommodation and restaurant,
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Yorkshire Dales Inn accommodation near Aysgarth, Wensleydale
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We have some really fantastic places to visit and they demand a good bit of walking about, so it's quite important that the weathers up to scratch for the exercise. It's not been fit for much of late though.

I'm not having a moan, take things as they come is my motto, it's not going to make anything different or improve a climatic situation in any shape or form if you moan all day or more about it.

It's nice to be here. That's what really matters and counts.

There's always something good to see, different places to go just on a whim, no real planning and that's kind of how I prefer to do it.

My mate Joe, and his wife Ann were with us today, it was a pretty misty, drizzly, rainy day over most of Lancashire and Yorkshire.

We just made the most of it, guess what, it turned out OK and really interesting in any event?

Todmorden seemed a pretty good target area to make for!



I think this area will be of real interest to Happyman too. Which is a good point to raise, as his contribution when he spots something of interest in one of our photographs for instance, makes for additional good posts all round.

We were relating periods back in time, thousands of years back for instance when Homo Erectus was just really getting going.

As we were talking about the approach of winter, and voicing the obvious concerns, it was apparent that those men of old, would have had to have been aware of the importance of being prepared for the seasonal changes. They would know as the leaves began to fall the days began to shorten etc. that they should be building up winter stocks.

I don't know enough about how and, or what they really stored to survive the winters, it must have been difficult for those in a climate such as Europe has, perish the thoughts of surviving in an ice age. They must have been fantastic providers.

Their levels of understanding are responsible for the continued evolution of the human race.

Wooden spears, daggers of bones, hatchets made with timber shafts and stone heads. Lashed together with vine, sinew or animal skin.

Then they cut themselves, or get a large thorn stuck in their foot. Infection gangrene, pain, illness, others prodding the infection, doing what they thought might help recovery, but death would follow.

Enough of my meanderings.



It's just how my train of thought varies when I'm out and about. It's great to think and talk about such things.

I found this little lot on The Net. It's really interesting, especially when you have just returned from the area.

Cornholme, Cliviger Valley

© Craven & Pendle Geological Society


This is a view of Cornholme from Shore Road. Pudsey Clough, leading to Coal Clough and Paul Clough, lies in the steep valley in the bottom corner of the photograph.
This is an ideal part of the Cliviger Valley where you can see a variety of rocks from that part of the Carboniferous Period (Namurian & Westphalian) times.
Marine bands, coarse-grained feldspathic sandstones, interbedded and subordinate mudstones, siltstones, fine-grained sandstones and minor coal and seatearths are typical lithologies associated with Pudsey Clough. The localities follow the Chapter 8 in the Yorkshire Geological Society's Yorkshire Rocks and Landscape - A Field Guide. (NB. Localities 7 & 8 are not covered on the site).
After a short walk up Pudsey Road from the A646 (T) the prominent outcrop of Reddish Rocks will become apparent. Take the trackway towards this outcrop, keep left, then you will shortly arrive at the entrance to Paul Clough and Coal Clough. Permission to enter Coal Clough must be obtained from Coal Clough Farm. The Gastrioceras subcrenatum marine band can be found in the shale bank shown above.
NB: In Paul Clough you will in fact be going down the Carboniferous succession i.e. the rocks will get progressively older. In Coal Clough you will be climbing up the succession into younger rocks.

Woodhead Hill Rock
This is a Lower Coal Measures coarse current bedded sandstone exposed along the trackway to the left of the entrance to Coal Clough Farm.
The contorted shale bed below is probably a product of downslope movement of the sand body. Prior to arriving at this locality have a look in the shale for the Gastrioceras subcrenatum marine band. See also Beacon Rock on Dean Scout.

Ganister Rock
The basal contact of the sandstone with the underlying shale is erosive. The shale bed contains frequent siderite concretions.
To the right of the photograph the basal section of the Ganister Rock contains large rafts of coal. It is not easily accessible but can be seen clearly from the beck.

Coal Clough Shales
Coal Clough exposes a superb section through Namurian and Westphalian mud rock cyclothem. Access to the base of the cliff section is not easy as you can see by the scree debris in the photograph.






Lower Mountain Mine






(equivalent to Union Mine or Bullion Mine)




Key marine bands and coal seams are accessible in particular the Lower Mountain Mine and the Gastrioceras listeri marine band.
The Lower Mountain Mine outcrops at stream level as can be seen in the photograph. Above the coal seam, marine fossils can be found in the shales. They include the ubiquitous Dunbarella papyraceous and Gastrioceras listeri, the zonal goniatite for this section.
There is evidence of small scale coal mining in the Clough so care must be taken when visiting the locality. As always please check with the farmer at Coal Clough Farm for permission to enter the Clough.

Owd Bett's Marine Band
In the bottom left hand corner of the photo is Lower Haslingden Flagstones. Between the flagstones and the marine band are weathered siltstones.
To the right and above the marine band is the Cancelloceras cumbriense marine band.
The marine band was named Owd Bett's after a nearby public house that lies within walking distance of Cheesden Brook, near Bury, Greater Manchester.

Rough Rock
The Rough Rock is exposed in disused quarries on either side of the stream which incidentally forms the County Boundary between Lancashire and Yorkshire. Notice the Old Pack Horse Bridge. Beyond the bridge are potholes in the stream bed - an unusual feature in the Rough Rock.
The Rough Rock outcrop in Paul Clough is a very coarse-grained multi-storey and multilateral fluvial sheet sandstone which is the most widespread Namurian sandstone in the Pennine Basin.












I took the next couple of photographs myself, the rock formations were peculiar to put it mildly, there must have been some amazing occurrences back in time to cause such formations.



There are some remarkable photographs we took today with such contrasting views and effects on the land, I think the next few days will be quite interesting on these pages.

I hope so anyhow.




There wouldn't be a lot left of those timber buildings if a rock or two decided to tumble down either.
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We came across an area around Blackshaw Head, it was like turning the hands of time back.

Something akin to being on a time machine in a simple manner of speaking.


There was this amazing petrol station/garage high up in the hills. It was open and functioning as a workshop, it sold Liquid Petroleum Gas along with Diesel.





Most petrol stations were just like this in the 60's and prior. A simple kiosk for the pump attendant and a couple of dispensing pumps. You purchased by the exact gallon, it was never a case of fill it up, or £5..00 worth for instance.

Petrol, as I remember about 1963 or so was about four shillings and four-pence a gallon. {Equates to twenty two pence in todays money}

Pumps calibrated the gallonage only, not the monetary value. There was usually a form on the front of the pumps with a chart ready reckoner.

The taller of the pumps on the photograph would have been manufactured in the 1950's I would think.

I was talking to the garage owner today {September 16th 2008} he no longer retailed petrol. Not since the conversion to litres. His tanks would come under the petroleum act for fire as well and if he ceased selling product he would either have had to remove the tanks or have had them filled up with concrete. Nowadays he would have to have them removed and the surrounding ground would have to be de-contaminated. Contamination from petrol is an extremely expensive problem to rectify.



That's a better photograph of the larger, older pump. They are both Avery Hardoll, which were probably the best dispenser pumps on the market for many, many years.

I think they are still going too.

All garages in the old days had their own fair share of scrap vehicles as well. This looked fantastic.



The old Bedford coach was amazing, it was falling to pieces but it still had an air of 'Look at me' about it.



These machines were running along every road in the country, and they were good.



The garage owner was an automatic gearbox repair specialist, most of his work was via mail order from the Internet.

He also re-furbished old bus's and coaches etc.

There was an additional interesting old banger down the field, it looked like an old Bedford caravanette. I didn't walk down the field far enough to check it out though.




It was an interesting place that's for sure.
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I'll get back to the garage through the week, there is some additional interesting material regarding the same.


This is a different one to leave for tonight though.



This was one hell of a powerful looking bull high in the Malham mountain area. The little fellow feeding didn't look so old at all, and "dad" was taking good care of him, he really kept an eye on us.



When the young one came away from the milk supply, I just managed to get this photograph which I think is quite a spectacular shot.

The 'wee feller' looks brilliant.





I bet he makes a classy specimen as the years pass by.
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1) I don't know enough about how and, or what they really stored to survive the winters, it must have been difficult for those in a climate such as Europe has, perish the thoughts of surviving in an ice age. They must have been fantastic providers.

Their levels of understanding are responsible for the continued evolution of the human race.

Wooden spears, daggers of bones, hatchets made with timber shafts and stone heads. Lashed together with vine, sinew or animal skin.

2)
Owd Bett's Marine Band


3)








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No access to my data base at the moment but a little personal ramble on the above 3 points !!!

1)

I went to a lecture many years ago at the British Museum on just this subject " what they really stored to survive the winters," and it was shown - by analysing neolithic and paleolithic middens ( rubbish heaps ! )- that there were distinct layers which were taken to be seasonal ( like tree rings) These were interpreted as -

Summer - large animal bones, snail and freshwater mussel shells,fish bones
Winter - Hazel ,Beech,Pine nutshells, acorn husks, fish bones and small animal bones - and some large animal bones that did not appear in the "Summer " layer .
It was suggested that the amount of small animal bones indicated that they trapped rabbits, mice etc and, what made me think, was that the unusual large bones were from bears and beavers. Both these species were common in UK in those days and,more to the point, they hibernated ! So Mr Caveman noted where the dens were and just dug them out when they were in need of a good meal !

Second point in this section, that may or not be of interest re levels of understanding, was the subject of a debate I took part in at a later meeting at the same venue.
Proposal was " In the ancient times was intelligence or knowledge the deciding factor in the evolution of the human race"

I won on the basis of the following analogy.

Intelligence is based on accumulated knowledge.

Basically and vastly edited !

Take a Modern "Tech savvy" man and take him back in time and dump him stark naked on a patch of moorland with access to a forest. He would be surrounded with all he needs to survive but with all his intelligence he wouldn't have the knowledge to let him take advantage and survive . Dead within a week !

An Ancient man in the same situation would , within a short time, made a flint knife and axe, caught game, made clothes from the skin,eaten the rest, made a shelter and settled in OK!

Reverse the situation where you brought an Ancient man into present day - he wouldn't have the intelligence to cope with traffic, ATM's, electricity etc as it was beyond his knowledge. Wouldn't last long !

Conclusion was that ancient man was as intellectually advanced as Modern man but in an entirely different way - suggesting that intelligence is the result of knowledge accumulated over thousands of generations
but an accumulation of recently gained knowledge is not necessarily intelligence !

Hey that was boring !

2) Owd Bett's Marine Band

This reminds me of the first house I bought - It was in Bridgnorth Shropshire and was in the Severn valley close to the river .
The back garden was just a 45degree bank of solid sandstone - If you stood at the end of the garden you could see over the house !!! My wife - keen gardener - was not too happy so as at the time I was working in earthmoving and mining, I "liberated" a rock drill and compressor over a bank holiday weekend and terraced it ( lychetts for those who have read my previous posts )
The Sandstone had been laid down by the river over thousands of years and, at one point, the drill just shot in and a ghastly smell of rotting fish came out of the hole!
I cleared around the patch and came across a band of freshwater mussel shells - not fossilised but just stuck together - it would appear that there was a bed of them thousands of years ago that were covered up by silt and sand and sealed up in an airtight pocket !!!
A lump was extracted - put in a tightly sealed bin liner - in the back if the car, and taken to the Natural History Museum in London .
They got all excited and sent a team up to Bridgnorth and took the lot ( and finished the garden off ! )
Was later told that they were sealed up between 4500 and 3500 BC!!
Bloody amazing !


3)

Those rocks are formed when basalt or granite as magma is forced up through the surface crust
over time the softer rocks that it pushed through weathered away leaving the "pipes" of harder rock- get the same with the Tors on Dartmoor.


Thats your lot !!
Got a bit of time on my hands these days and get carried away ! Sorry
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No access to my data base at the moment but a little personal ramble on the above 3 points !!!

1)

I went to a lecture many years ago at the British Museum on just this subject " what they really stored to survive the winters," and it was shown - by analysing neolithic and paleolithic middens ( rubbish heaps ! )- that there were distinct layers which were taken to be seasonal ( like tree rings) These were interpreted as -

Summer - large animal bones, snail and freshwater mussel shells,fish bones
Winter - Hazel ,Beech,Pine nutshells, acorn husks, fish bones and small animal bones - and some large animal bones that did not appear in the "Summer " layer .
It was suggested that the amount of small animal bones indicated that they trapped rabbits, mice etc and, what made me think, was that the unusual large bones were from bears and beavers. Both these species were common in UK in those days and,more to the point, they hibernated ! So Mr Caveman noted where the dens were and just dug them out when they were in need of a good meal !

Second point in this section, that may or not be of interest re levels of understanding, was the subject of a debate I took part in at a later meeting at the same venue.
Proposal was " In the ancient times was intelligence or knowledge the deciding factor in the evolution of the human race"

I won on the basis of the following analogy.

Intelligence is based on accumulated knowledge.

Basically and vastly edited !

Take a Modern "Tech savvy" man and take him back in time and dump him stark naked on a patch of moorland with access to a forest. He would be surrounded with all he needs to survive but with all his intelligence he wouldn't have the knowledge to let him take advantage and survive . Dead within a week !

An Ancient man in the same situation would , within a short time, made a flint knife and axe, caught game, made clothes from the skin,eaten the rest, made a shelter and settled in OK!

Reverse the situation where you brought an Ancient man into present day - he wouldn't have the intelligence to cope with traffic, ATM's, electricity etc as it was beyond his knowledge. Wouldn't last long !

Conclusion was that ancient man was as intellectually advanced as Modern man but in an entirely different way - suggesting that intelligence is the result of knowledge accumulated over thousands of generations
but an accumulation of recently gained knowledge is not necessarily intelligence !

Hey that was boring !

2) Owd Bett's Marine Band

This reminds me of the first house I bought - It was in Bridgnorth Shropshire and was in the Severn valley close to the river .
The back garden was just a 45degree bank of solid sandstone - If you stood at the end of the garden you could see over the house !!! My wife - keen gardener - was not too happy so as at the time I was working in earthmoving and mining, I "liberated" a rock drill and compressor over a bank holiday weekend and terraced it ( lychetts for those who have read my previous posts )
The Sandstone had been laid down by the river over thousands of years and, at one point, the drill just shot in and a ghastly smell of rotting fish came out of the hole!
I cleared around the patch and came across a band of freshwater mussel shells - not fossilised but just stuck together - it would appear that there was a bed of them thousands of years ago that were covered up by silt and sand and sealed up in an airtight pocket !!!
A lump was extracted - put in a tightly sealed bin liner - in the back if the car, and taken to the Natural History Museum in London .
They got all excited and sent a team up to Bridgnorth and took the lot ( and finished the garden off ! )
Was later told that they were sealed up between 4500 and 3500 BC!!
Bloody amazing !


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Those rocks are formed when basalt or granite as magma is forced up through the surface crust
over time the softer rocks that it pushed through weathered away leaving the "pipes" of harder rock- get the same with the Tors on Dartmoor.


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Brilliant Post, very informative too.

Thank you.

Green on the way too.

There are very few areas of science that permit the visionary and practical combinations of research and study into a subject like delving into our past.

There are some amazing accounts given to our evolution.

What a brilliant subject it really is. The brain can get carried away thinking about what might or might not have been and how very lucky we are to have survived to the levels of existence we have achieved.

We have stood on the Moon.




I sometime look deeply into areas such as this, assuming how the first group of Homo Erectus must have felt when they came across the ridge and looked upon the same.



When you think back to a period covering twenty thousand generations or more it's an amazing and quite fascinating subject indeed.

Simply thinking of how things have changed the last forty or fifty years is something which can at times show outstanding changes in our life-styles.




Larry the lamb here is tucked up until he wants another chew.

He never concerned himself with building homes or roads.




I think we take so much for granted, but it's wonderful being that way.



The salt bins alone say a hell of a lot about us.
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I think a rather special breed of folk are needed to live and work in such out of the way and lonely places like this.

I have known a few farmers in my day, they are quite a rare breed in general.

Can't say I have known any such as these sheep farmers though.

I brought the farm closer up with this photograph. It must be something else with a couple of foot or so of snow covering everything for weeks on end as well.



The roads would be very dangerous with a bit of ice on, let alone snow all over the terrain and the obvious difficulties in knowing where the road actually lay in front of you.



In my younger days, I have done vehicle recovery from places like this in winter conditions, it was a hell of a job at times.

Sorry the photographs are not as clear as I would have liked them to have been, but in view of the rain and mist, they're probably not so bad at all.



There were some amazing rock features as well.
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ARNCLIFFE

Whilst driving through these wonderful parts of the country, we came across some outstanding villages and hamlets tucked away in the hills and vales.

This particular one was really nice.




I wondered if they used conventional lawn mowers for maintaining the village green or just brought a few sheep in off the hillsides once a week or so.

Pity you can see the mower tracks.

It shows how well they respect neat maintenance though. 10/10





This village was called Arncliffe. Extremely attractive it was too.

It was very neatly tucked away between the high hills as well.



The villages only appear to have an odd small store and or combined post office.

We did notice an odd Tesco and Ocado delivery vehicle for groceries etc up in the hills but how on earth they manage in bad winters is another condition they will no doubt have well covered in any event. Good Evolution ensures our survival




Exceptionally nice, as you can see.

There was a great looking Hotel in the village, really looked something with the Ivy growing up the walls too.



I found a host of information on The Net regarding the village and The Falcon.

I picked this one to place on the thread.

Google the Village of Arncliffe, and or The Falcon, there is quite a bit more interesting information.











Deep within the Yorkshire Dales lies the valley of Littondale. Its valley bottom fields and richly green, steep hillsides of open pasture and hanging woods, crested by craggy outcrops and exposed moorland, show the Yorkshire Dales at its very best.


Following the winding course of the river Skirfare up the valley, one arrives at the village of Arncliffe, a small farming community set around a broad village green. It is on the edge of the village green that we find the Falcon, a traditional Dales village Inn run by the Miller family for four generations.




The Falcon, with its bay windows and ivy covered exterior, offers superb Dales hospitality. Ale is still served in the time honoured fashion - from barrel to glass via a porcelain jug. The evening meal and breakfast are as you would expect in the Dales - traditional home cooking and plenty of it! (Vegetarians will be welcomely catered for by prior arrangement).



Accommodation is available in single and double bedrooms, with the option of en-suite facilities. The residents’ dining room and sitting room both look out onto the village green and surrounding cottages, the sitting room’s blazing open fire creating a perfect atmosphere for post-dinner coffee and reflection on the days activity.





Overlooked by Yew Cougar Scar and in the conservation area of Arncliffe, the Falcon serves as an excellent base from which to explore the delights the Yorkshire Dales has to offer. It is ideally situated to take advantage of many scenic walks in the Yorkshire Dales, with superb geological features such as Gordale Scar and Malham Cove. All around are opportunities to view the Dales wildlife, flowers and stunning scenery.



The Falcon has 4 miles of its own private fly fishing on the river Skirfare which gently winds its way down Littondale. The river is not artificially stocked and is inhabited by brown trout. Evidence of this is exhibited in a display case in the bar, a 3lb "brownie" certifying one fisherman’s skills. Fishing is available from Monday to Saturday during the trout season. Day tickets are free to Falcon guests and available to non-residents from the Falcon.




Falcon Cottage
Falcon Cottage is also available, providing self-contained accommodation for up to three people. Situated near the Falcon, the cottage is a typical Dales dwelling and is furnished in such a manner, comfortably and simply. The cottage has a living room with colour TV, open fire, kitchen and dining area. There is a double and single bedroom and bathroom on the first floor.
With uninterrupted views across Littondale, Falcon Cottage is ideally suited for the energetic who want to explore the many local walks or equally for those seeking a quiet break, a chance to relax and wind down amongst stunning scenery.


To enquire about availability of accommodation at Falcon Inn or Falcon Cottage please use the postable reply form or the contact details below.


For more information
Mr and Mrs R Miller, The Falcon, Arncliffe, Skipton. N Yorkshire BD23 5QE


01756 770205 (+44 1756 770205)


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This pic is interesting !
The stone lined pond in the foreground is probably post- Roman and pre- Viking - ie from the "Dark Ages" and the only other example of one like this that I know of is ( i think) on Bodmin Moor in Cornwall ( will check this when I get back on my PC)

Is that line of rock in the background natural or is it a man made wall ??

Where is this??
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The Falcon has 4 miles of its own private fly fishing on the river Skirfare which gently winds its way down Littondale. The river is not artificially stocked and is inhabited by brown trout. Evidence of this is exhibited in a display case in the bar, a 3lb "brownie" certifying one fisherman’s skills. Fishing is available from Monday to Saturday during the trout season. Day tickets are free to Falcon guests and available to non-residents from the Falcon.



Right my friend- you have really blown it this time !!!

You know from some of my posts that the only thing that I miss from UK after 40 years away is the trout fishing .

I have endured, without complaint, over the weeks you constantly posting pics of fantastic "trouty" streams and rivers only been comforted by the fact that most are undoubtedly private so it was a case of "dream on "!!!

Now you go and post a pic of a stretch that is available on a ticket with the bonus that it is free if you stop in The Falcon !!

You have either a dark side to your character that gives you pleasure in tormenting people or have negotiated a good commission rate from The Falcon !

Consider us as not speaking to each other for the next 30 seconds !!! ( That will show you ! )

Time is up !

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This pic is interesting !
The stone lined pond in the foreground is probably post- Roman and pre- Viking - ie from the "Dark Ages" and the only other example of one like this that I know of is ( i think) on Bodmin Moor in Cornwall ( will check this when I get back on my PC)


Just thought I would clarify this a bit !
The pond (by its situation and shape) is a "dew pond" of which there are many but usually on the chalk uplands of the UK. They are artificial ponds for stock watering, the technology for them has been in existence for thousands of years.
What makes this one interesting is the stone lining and the fact that it is not on a chalk upland!
May like to check http://www.4to40.com/Geography/index.asp?id=18 for more info.
What makes this one interesting is what appears to be the carefully fitted stone lining ( rather than a layer of rubble !
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This pic is interesting !
The stone lined pond in the foreground is probably post- Roman and pre- Viking - ie from the "Dark Ages" and the only other example of one like this that I know of is ( i think) on Bodmin Moor in Cornwall ( will check this when I get back on my PC)

Is that line of rock in the background natural or is it a man made wall ??

Where is this??
We were captivated by the wall in the background as well.

It has to be a man made wall surely, but how did they build it over the edge of the cliff and down the face.

The area is between Malham and Arncliffe.


This should be of interest to you.

The Craven Fault

The Craven Fault is actually a series of geological fault lines (including the North Craven Fault, the Mid Craven Fault, and the South Craven Fault) which run along the southern and western edges of the Yorkshire Dales national park, formed at the underlying boundary of the Askrigg Block.
Along the length of the Craven Fault (which generally defines the boundary between the limestone uplands of the higher dales and the gentler scenery to the south and west) there are some quite spectacular limestone features, including the geological unconformity and waterfall at Thornton Force near Ingleton, similar examples of unconformity near Clapham, Austwick and Feizor, Giggleswick Scar, Attermire Scar near Settle, the high cliffs of Malham Cove and Gordale Scar near Malham in Malhamdale, Linton Falls in lower Wharfedale, and Trollers Gill above Skyredale near the surface termination of the fault at the Skyreholme Anticline.
At several points along the southern edge of the Craven Fault are ranges of reef knolls - limestone hills which formed as coral atols in the warm shallow waters of an ancient prehistoric sea. Fine examples of these limestone reef knolls can be seen on the limestone moors above Settle, in the southern part of Malhamdale and at the Cracoe Reef Knolls (which lie between the twin villages of Rylstone and Cracoe and Burnsall in the so-called Barden Triangle.
[N.B. Please click here for more information about the geology of the Yorkshire Dales.]
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I'm keeping the post short, I just spent about an hour doing a cracker, and my PC crashed.

Not to worry I'll do it in shorter units.
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It's an amazing place, of that there is no doubt.

The road, which is more of a pass, is virtually single track with intermittent passing bays. We only came across two other vehicles up there and they appeared to be farm connected.



There were some hellish drops from the tops of those cliffs. I reckon a few sheep at least will have gone over those tops as well.



The dry stone walls were all over the place. Mile after mile of them.




Why on earth would they separate the land like this?



There appears to have been activity along the tops as well.

This is interesting too.

Click on Cached.

This point marks the approximate edge of the North Craven fault ... OUGS NW Home Page. Written by Mike Woods. Photographs by Mike Woods and Steve Darlington.
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Malham itself was a gorgeous little hamlet.



Anywhere with a bridge made like this and to such an impressive standard has to be special.




The metalwork let it down, but the stonework alone, as it should have been left, was remarkable.



The bridge across the river was quite low, they obviously didn't get any destroyers going up there.





Attractive looking place though.


There was a small ford crossing over the river too.

This added more interest to the area as well.

Guide to the Malham area of the Yorkshire Dales

The classic limestone scenery of cliffs, crags, and scars, the unusual and valuable wildlife resource of lime-rich Malham Tarn, and the farming landscape of miles of ancient dry-stone walls, field barns, meadows and pockets of woodland create a special beauty in the Malham area.
Several leading conservation agencies are actively involved in managing this valuable natural resource. Much of the dramatic scenery in the area has been designated a Site of Special Scientific Interest, under statutory protection. The National Trust also owns a large area of land, including the Tarn, which is managed as a National Nature Reserve for wildlife. Together with the Yorkshire Dales National Park, these agencies are working to balance the needs of conservation and recreation. The National Park Centre in Malham provides useful information about the area.
Malham Beck emerges from the foot of Malham Cove and flows through the centre of Malham, crossed by clapper bridges and a former packhorse bridge. Trees flourish in this sheltered village of characteristic Dales stone village houses, many dating back to the 18th-century.
Above the village, Malham Cove is a great limestone ampitheatre formed through ice and water erosion during the last million years. A section of the Pennine Way leads from Malham Village to the Cove, ascending the western grassy side of the 250-feet high cliff. At the top there is a remarkable limestone pavement with its clints (small flat blocks) and grikes (deep crevices between), and a sensational view over the valley. Beyond, the Dry Valley leads northwards towards the Water Sinks and Malham Tarn.
Gordale Scar, a gigantic collapsed cave system forming a twisting gorge between limestone cliffs, is 1½ miles east of Malham, reached by a field path alongside Gordale Beck and passing Janet's Foss, a little waterfall set in an area of old natural woodland.
The roads north from Malham join near the Tarn, and the Pennine Way passes close to its eastern edge. The Tarn lies on a bedrock of slates in a depression scoured out by glacier ice in the Ice Age, and is the highest lime-rich lake in the country - fed by springs bringing in dissolved limestone from the surrounding hills. The Tarn and the estate are let to the Field Studies Council, who run residential courses for all ages. From the Tarn, roads lead northwards to Arncliffe in Littondale, or westwards to Ribblesdale.
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