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| Thailand Expat Last Online: Today 05:34 AM Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Wherever I put my head down between UK and BKK
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Late 1950's would be a little too early for me Walter. I only left school in 1962. But Alan Jackson.. Click on the photograph below not on the video screen. Put your volume as high as it will go. And if it won't play here, go to U Tube for it. It's well worth the visit. Alan Jackson;Jimmy Buffett - It's Five O' Clock Somewhere
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| Thailand Travel Forum | Still ploughing through records for the first photo but in the meanwhile just look at the bloody state of that wall capping !!! Give me a couple of days with my hammer and I could get that looking "roit an proper " as they say in Devon !! Second pic Those lumps are the remains of old mining activity when they used the "washing" technique. one of the oldest ways but still used up to the start of the 20th C. Once you have found a suitable site bearing minerals that you want you dig a leat or small canal above the site to catch the surface water from the moor. The horizontal line at the edge of the moor in the pic is probably the course of it. Next step is to breach it and let the water run down the face of the hill- you dig a trench to start it off, and the water washes the soil and the minerals away into a settling area. The lighter soil is separated out from the heavier mineral ore, Like panning for gold but on a larger scale! Stones and ore were then sorted by hand and the stones thrown to one side - those spoil heaps (lumps ) are probably the waste ! Ore was then graded or processed on site or elsewhere - In Devon the water from from the settling area was piped off to run stamping mills to crush the ore before being run off into the river. Not sure what was extracted in that area- something else for me to have a look for !!! Cheers ! |
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| Thailand Expat Last Online: Today 05:34 AM Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Wherever I put my head down between UK and BKK
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| I think you have hit the nail on the head. You know your 'stuff' Happyman. I'm glad you find this interesting. Keep us informed. Cheers ! |
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| Thailand Travel Forum | Found some records of early surface Lead/Zinc/Silver ( they are usually found together) mining in the limestone and chert moors and outcrops North West of Burnley and in the Colne area !! The veins were vertical and in fissures in the rock faces . If these are the remains of lead mining then my last post must be modified The spoil heaps are where they have "streamed" the topsoil away to get at the veins in the exposed rock face . The ore would then be hacked out by hand ! Needs a bit of walking and ground work to be certain though ! Cheers ! |
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| Thailand Expat Last Online: Today 05:34 AM Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Wherever I put my head down between UK and BKK
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| You're very thorough in the research you do Happyman, that's good. We had a good run out today, weather was atrocious which limited our activity, but we had fun and have some interesting photographs which I will put on line over the next few days. Part of our drive took us to the really interesting hamlet of Bainbridge, Wensleydale, Yorkshire Dales. You need to check it out on The Net, I think it will really interest you, and others of course who read this thread. There is a really beautiful village green, very old stocks on the same, and a well written reference regarding the remains of a totally un-excavated Roman Settlement. This should interest a lot of readers, I would imagine. ![]() The stocks, whilst looking ancient sat on the village green, remind all of us that England once had a much different outlook with regards to punishment fitting the crime. ![]() It wasn't as bad as the 'Ducking Stool' though. ![]() The Village was absolutely fantastic, very attractive indeed. Bainbridge, Upper Wensleydale, Yorkshire Dales - accommodation |
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| Thailand Expat Last Online: Today 05:34 AM Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Wherever I put my head down between UK and BKK
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| My pal and special friend Joe, with his wife Ann came along with us. It was a great day. We had a really excellent lunch at the Cross Keys Temperance Inn Cautley Sedbergh, Cumbria. It really was a beautiful place with the original section of the building dating back approximately a thousand years or so, according to the Landlord, Alan Clowes, a really pleasant chap, a native of Lancaster. I'll put some details and photographs on here from the Inn during the next few days, but in the meanwhile I have scanned a pamphlet from the same which makes interesting reading. ![]() We all felt the Inn was an outstandingly well presented property, the general condition cleanliness, food, and service was a credit to Alan and his wife Christine who we met very briefly. Both of these pages make interesting reading indeed. ![]() |
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| Thailand Travel Forum | Don't need the net Mathos!! VIROSIDVM ( Bainbridge) was a staging post that guarded the ford at the confluence of the rivers Ure and Bain which was about halfway on the trans-Pennine Roman road from Lancaster and the similar fort at CATARACTONIVM ( Catterick) on the A1 ( Dere Street) |
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| Thailand Expat Last Online: Today 05:34 AM Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Wherever I put my head down between UK and BKK
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| This photograph was taken from across the road of The Cross Keys, as you can see it is an outstanding building. ![]() The interior of the Inn was magnificent. Flag floors and oak beams.. It had a real homely type feeling to it. ![]() Feast your eyes on the fireplace as well it was beautiful. Ranges of this calibre are few and far between nowadays. I remember very faintly our home having one similar to this when I was very, very young. Flobo remembers one in her home, her mother cooked everything in it, all the food, bread and soups etc. She was also made up to catch sight of this Wood-Pecker, and managed to obtain a couple of snaps of the same as well, it made her day. ![]() We have had one visiting us at home for a few years now in the month of April we have never been lucky enough to obtain a photograph as clear as this though. The last photograph for tonight is from the rear of the Inn and shows the amazing Cautley Spout, we would have liked to have taken the walk up to the same, but the weather was awful we were dodging heavy rain and thick pea soup mist all day. We will have to put it on our "To Do Again List" ![]() You can read a little regarding the Spout from the first section of the Cross Keys brochure in the earlier post. The Link below makes for some exceptionaslly good reading with regards to the many Water Falls in the location as well. Waterfalls in the Yorkshire Dales If Catrigg Force is a hidden gem then Cautley Spout is an wide open gem. ... Cautley Spout is a long series of waterfalls tumbling for over 200 metres off ... www.walkingenglishman.com/dalesguide/waterfalls |
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| Thailand Expat Last Online: Today 05:34 AM Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Wherever I put my head down between UK and BKK
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What about these two Happyman, I just felt they had something more to say. ![]() The one below, I assumed to be a man made base for an old fort on the hilltop? ![]() Whatever they are saying, they caught my attention. There's one more here as well. ![]() What on earth is it? This one is:- ![]() The actual site of the un-excavated Roman Settlement at Bainbridge. Just as a matter of interest, what would they likely find there if they did an excavation? | |
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If they excavated the site of the fort they would find the Vallum or defensive ditch, which was outside the now disappeared rampart ,which would show in section as a "V"shaped area of disturbed soil. This is the best place to find artifacts as when a fort was abandoned they threw all the debris into the vallum . Inside there would be traces of foundations if there were any stone built buildings or , when the turf was stripped off , there would be circular darker patches that would be the post holes from previous wooden buildings. This type of fort were built to a standard design and once you have located the original entrance the remainder of the internal structures were / are fairly easy to locate ! Cheers Still digging around for info on your other posted pics - keep 'em coming ! | ||
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| Thailand Expat Last Online: Today 05:34 AM Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Wherever I put my head down between UK and BKK
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Thanks. The Dent Fault. ![]() There's a little here from The Net with regards to the same, all very interesting as well. The Sedgwick Geological Trail was created in 1985 to celebrate the bicentenary of the birth of Adam Sedgwick, a distinguished mathematician, clergyman and geologist. Adam Sedgwick was born in the lovely Yorkshire Dales village of Dent on 22nd March 1785, son of the vicar of Dent. Educated at Dent school and Sedberg Grammar school, Sedgwick went up to Trinity College, Cambridge, where he graduated with a first class honours in mathematics in 1808. He was appointed a fellow of Trinity College in 1810 and was ordained in 1817, going on to become a canon in Norwich cathedral. However, it is as a geologist that he is best remembered. In 1819 Sedgwick was appointed Woodwardian Professor of Geology at Cambridge. Four years later he made a detailed study of rocks in the Lake District. In 1829 Sedgewick became President of the Geological Society of London. Charles Darwin studied geology under Sedgwick, at Cambridge, before departing on the 'Beagle' in 1831 as project naturalist. The two men corresponded regularly and Darwin sent many geological specimens back to Sedgwick. He was also a close friend of Roderick Murchison. They did a joint study of the rocks of Scotland and, in the early 1830s, they worked together in Wales. Murchison's work led to his definition of the Silurian System, while Sedgwick coined the term 'Cambrian' to define the system of rocks he studied in mid-Wales. They gave a joint presentation of their work in 1835. In 1839 they gave another joint presentation on the rocks in Devon; a study that defined the 'Devonian System' (410 to 360Mya). Their work in Wales led to a dispute between Sedgwick and Murchison because Murchison's Lower Silurian and Sedgwicks Upper Cambrian overlapped. The dispute was finally resolved in 1879 when geologist Charles Lapworth defined the Ordovician System, encompassing the disputed time sequence. Sedgwick was a great benefactor who never lost contact with the village of his birth. The year after he died, the people of Dent erected a memorial fountain in honour of their most famous son. The first picture above shows the 'George & Dragon' hotel in Dent, a charming village that still retains its cobbled streets and must be little changed since Sedgwick's time. The second picture is of the Sedgwick memorial fountain. __________________________________________________ _ This particular cliff and the erosion from the bottom which made me think water or ice looked spectacular as well. ![]() It looked a very dangerous place to be walking on top of, especially if it had been snowing ![]() ![]() The top of the hill in this next photograph looked interesting to me as well. ![]() I don't exactly know what I'm looking for, but when I feel or look at something that appears to be un-natural it gets me thinking. I've a section to add from The Sedgwick Trail on the next post as well. | |
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| This section is taken from The Net:- The Trail The Sedgwick Geological Trail has twelve exposures marked by numbered wooden posts. Sites 1 to 4 show Lower Carboniferous limestone, dating from about 330 million years ago (Mya) dipping approximately 60 degrees upstream. Site 2 has exposed Coral and Brachiopods indicating that the beds were deposited in a shallow tropical sea. At site 3 the limestone beds are separated by thin beds of shale showing that conditions were not stable. There had been short periods when muddy sediments were deposited. Site 4 has several deposits of black Chert in the limestone possibly resulting from silicious gel settling on the sea bed. Moving westwards between sites 4 and 7 there is evidence of an anticline followed by a syncline with the beds at site 7 dipping vertically. This is evidence of massive crumpling of the beds due to earth movements. In Tom Croft cave at site 7 calcite has crystallised out on the surface (see picture below). This is thought to be caused by heating of the rock, further evidence of massive earth movement. Between sites 7 and 10 there is a marked change in rock form. Bedded limestone has been replaced by Breccia. The rock has been shattered into small pieces by unimaginable forces. Mineralisation is further evidence of intense heating. The steep sided, narrow river valley has also become wider and shallower. At site 10 a fine grained mudstone (Brathay Flags), deposited 425 million years ago and dipping downstream at 62 degrees, has replaced the limestone. At this site one can also see an unconformity in which the Brathay flags are overlaid by a red pebble conclomerate. Adam Sedgwick was the first person to observe and explain these features. He attributed them to an enormous upheaval that raised the Lake district hills to the west by as much as 2.5Km relative to the Dales hills in the east. This is now known as "The Dent Fault". Maps and Guides
The Sedgwick Geological Trail is 3.5Km east of Sedbergh on the A684 Sedbergh to Hawes road. There is a large gravelled car park (SD 695913) on the north side of the road at the crest of a hill adjacent to the viewpoint shown on the Ordnance Survey maps. A well made path descends from the car park to the Clough river valley. Turn left just before the bridge across the river to enter the trail. The trail has twelve exposures marked by numbered wooden posts. The trail is on private farmland so visitors are requested to keep to the marked footpaths Note: The river bank is steep and can be slippery when wet. Special care must be exercised when clambering onto rocks in the river. Some are unstable and all can be very slippery when wet. From the photographs I took below from the car park area, you could tell there had been some pretty heavy action on these slopes in the past. ![]() The cattle and sheep were just getting on with it, and the dry stone wall builders hadn't let the various contours bother them either. ![]() ![]() I reckon you could have some fun down those slopes in the snow on a good old sledge. Some brilliant colours on those mountains as well. ![]() There are many artists working away in these locations. It must be brilliant to have such a talent or gift. ![]() I might just give it a try sometime. ![]() Then again, imagine having everything set up, easel, canvas, chair, paint etc etc, half a day painting away and then the heavens open. I'll stick with my camera. |
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| This was quite a deep section as well along the fault. The River Dee was running along the bottom. ![]() All of the area had many impressions and formation markings which were really interesting. It's difficult to imagine all of this covered by ice, oceans, deserts and finally ending up looking like this. ![]() Towns, roads, homes and businesses all tucked away in the beauty and special history of some remarkable locations. ![]() Every River flows to the sea. ![]() It's all quite remarkable. |
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| Thailand Travel Forum | Nice pics Will keep me occupied for a while ! Do you have an O.S. Map for the area you travel through ? If so a grid ref of where you take the pics from ( approx ) would be a bonus for me at least ! It's difficult to imagine all of this covered by ice, oceans, deserts and finally ending up looking like this. It can be , but , after you get into it, and get to know the history from paleolithic times to the present - it all falls into place ! |
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| Putting the photograph on above made me think of the gorgeous little village of Gayle up in the Upper Wenslydale Hills. What a beautiful place it is. ![]() The photograph above shows the Grade 2* listed Gayle Mill. This is the oldest unaltered cotton mill in existence. It's dated from 1874/5 It was converted to a saw mill in 1878. The mill is presently undergoing restoration and when completed will be producing a superb range of quality timber products. There will be training and education in woodworking, visitors will be able to see the original Victorian machinery and water turbines in action. The location and everything shown in the photograph above is quite remarkable. What a spot. ![]() The location is outstanding. Tomorrow night I'll put some photographs on of the Ford crossing, the Beck and other parts of this really special hamlet. It's sensational, very impressive. I'll just leave you with this one to look at for now. Another really informative photograph. ![]() It's quite amazing to see buildings like this built from stone without a bit of mortar joining the same. Heavens above knows how many hundreds of years or more they have stood there. Many are still occupied. This one looked like it had suffered. What a building though. |
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Cheers Happyman, I'll see if I can give you a bit more information with regards to being more specific with regards to the locations. Leave it with me I'll see what I can do over the next day or two. We came across so much beauty yesterday, it was amazing. This bridge, which we came across looked fantastic. ![]() More later. | |
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| Thailand Travel Forum | The Dent fault is exactly why there are so many mineral and metal extraction areas along it ! Two dissimilar formations meet each other and the heat and stresses that build up over time causes the minerals /ores to be generated/concentrated and squeezed into localized areas . More later when I have had a good dig around ! |
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I'll try and get you more precise location points over the weekend. For the time being the following route details may well assist your 'digging' ![]() The Roads used from Sedbergh to Skipton are as follows:- A684 Oughtershaw Road B6160 B6265 Towns/Hamlets Sedbergh West Mustard Garsdale Appersett Hawes Gayle Oughtershaw Deepdale Yockenthwaite Kettlewell Grassington Hetton Cray Skipton Name this tree in one. ![]() And it's town. | |
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| Thailand Travel Forum | The profile of this hill looks very much like Ingleborough Camp Hillfort in North Yorshire. ( between Austwick and Ingleton north of the A 65) If so then - . It is thought to have been built around the first century AD by the Brigantes. This northern Celtic tribe was under attack from the invading armies of Rome, and the 15 acre plateau was chosen to become the site of a huge defensive position. It is unique in Yorkshire in that it wasn't constructed purely for military use, but as an extensive fortified village. A rampart of millstone grit 3000 feet long encircled the massive flat summit. This was punctuated by entrances on the northern, eastern and south-western sides. Within this wall are the remains of circular stone hut foundations, usually showing south-facing entrances. ( P,S.)Havn't got a clue about the tree though - gimme a clue ! |
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