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Old 26-10-2009, 07:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Nile River Cruise with the Thai Girlfriend



Besides starting a thread about Egypt/Cairo/Nile River Cruise in the Travel section of Teakdoor, I thought this thread might help someone else who might like to take his/her spouse to Egypt, from Thailand.

We started planning this visit after having dinner with a friend the last time we were in Miami. He had taken his wife on a Nile River Cruise on a small boat just a few months prior and both said they enjoyed the trip.

The girlfriend had always wanted to visit the country and I have had it on a list of places to see. I had been apprehensive about visiting Egypt for some time, but the friend reassured me/us that it would be fine.

I started checking out different tours/cruises and found one that looked nice on a large boat traveling from Luxor to Aswan (and back) for 7 nights, but there is absolutely no refunding of ticket costs after you have booked.
First problem/obstacle,…….I have to plan this thing months in advance and what if something happens and I decide to back out (family member/friend passes away, girlfriend wakes up and tells me to go take a hike, etc.), I’ll need travel insurance. Went with AIG (Travel Guard, Short Term, Plan A) which provides cancellation, medical, etc. Cost for each of us is 2,342 baht for 14 days or less (traveling outside of Asia). I don’t think they’ll cover my expenses if I decide to back out because she dumps me.

I started checking on Visa requirements for me (American) and the Thai girlfriend. Getting a tourist Visa doesn’t seem to be a problem for me (I can get one at the Cairo Airport if I want),……but Egypt requires a Thai to get a Visa before traveling to the country.

We visited the Egyptian Consulate here in BKK [Las. Colinas Building 42nd Floor 6 Sukhumvit 21 Bangkok 10110 Tel. (062) 6617184- 2620236 a better Telephone number to use might be 02-2620236] to see what they will require from us for her to get a 2 week tourist visa. It doesn’t seem to be much of a problem,…………they just want me to write them a letter stating she will be traveling with me while we tour Egypt, our round trip air tickets, fill out their Visa Application (can be downloaded here: http://www.touregypt.net/visa.htm and she has to provide a certificate of employment and bank statement/financial document) and itinerary (hotel reservation/s). The consulate also told us that they could not issue a Visa more than two months prior to our departure,…so we planed the visit to the Egyptian Consulate at the beginning of October.

I took all the paper work to the consulate on a Thursday (between 10am and 12 noon), waited about 15 minuets, gave them 1,500 baht for processing the Thai girlfriends visa application and 600 baht for mine while they were checking over the paper work and then they told me to come back the next Monday (between 2pm and 3pm) to pick up the Visa’s.
Both Visa’s were approved for a three week visit with an open window to travel for two months starting the date the passports were stamped.

The letter we gave the Egyptian Consulate:

October X, 2009

Egyptian Consulate
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6 Sukhumvit 21, Bangkok, Thailand 10110

RE: Tourist Visa’s to Egypt

Dear Sir or Madam,

X X (a Thai citizen) and I (X X X - a US citizen) are planning a trip (together) to the country of Egypt during the month of November 2009. Our flight schedules, hotel destinations, tourist visa applications and Nile River Cruise itinerary are attached.
X X has also included a certificate of employment and a financial document (copy of bank statement).

We are each requesting a 14 day tourist Visa (single entry) starting November X, 2009 to visit the country of Egypt.

If you have any questions regarding this issue, I can be reached at 081.XXXXXXX.

Thank you in advance, we look forward to hearing from you.


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Here’s our Schedule:

November X, 2009 fly into Cairo, visit some sites around Cairo
November X, 2009 still in Cairo
November X, 2009 still in Cairo
November X, 2009 Fly into Luxor, morning flight move to boat to start cruise
November X - X, 2009, on boat (seven nights)
November X, 2009, leave boat after breakfast fly to Cairo (from Luxor) on afternoon flight, stay evening in Cairo
November X, leave Cairo for BKK on an evening flight and during the day visit places we might have missed.

Some places we intend to visit while in Cairo (and post pictures of): Pyramids and The Sphinx (night show also), Giza Quarries, City of the Dead, Egyptian Museum, some papyrus shops, try to do a boat ride on the river (maybe evening ride) while in Cairo and visit some vendors (selling whatever).

The Cruise will stop at these places (and guide us too) along the way: The Karnak & Luxor Temples, Esna, Edfu Temple, Komombo, Kom Ombo, Aswan, Sailing on the Nile by felucca around Agha Khan Mausoleum, Visit the High Dam, Granite Quarries and the Temple of Philae, Komombo Temple and Visit the West Bank (Valley of Kings, Hatshepsut)

When we get back to Thailand, I’ll start posting pictures and details about the cruise and where we stayed while in Cairo.

Any advice (places we should visit/stay away from/etc) from anyone who has ever been to Egypt would be appreciated.


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Nile River Cruise with the Thai Girlfriend

Glad to see your girlfriend dressed for the occasion mate.

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^I don’t know whose eyes they are, but they are pretty. The girlfriend has pretty dark doe eyes.
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Thai's seem to have trouble getting into places.

Rather them than the ones they should be keeping out.
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My old girlfriend Nit, always wanted to go to Egypt. Closest I got was buying her an incense pyramid from Chatuchak which I broke before I gave it to her. Sigh....such is life. I'll follow your trip with interest and see what an experience I might have had.
Have a nice time both of you , and can you confirm that the Kings Chamber inside the great pyramid still smells of arab piss. It did when I crawled up there.
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and can you confirm that the Kings Chamber inside the great pyramid still smells of arab piss. It did when I crawled up there.
Sorry about that my friend - not a arab but t'was me in the early 80's - got took short after a skinful of Stella !

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I went to Egypt as a kid, boat stopped in Port Said and we got a coach to Cairo, half way through the desert we stopped at a restaurant, as we walked in the cleaner was sweeping all the used toilet paper from the toilet across the restaurant floor just had a bottle of coke there after that.

Cairo was pretty good, went to the Egyptian Museum to see the mummies and gold caskets, got food poisoning at the Hilton, went to see the sphinx and the pyramids, then back to the boat and onto Israel and Jurasalem, wouldn't mind going back but the flights from Thailand are damn expensive

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the best way Nile river trip is on a small fellucca sail boat. We took ours tacking upstream from Luxor to the Edfu temple, it's an overnighter, you just sleep on the boat at the riverside. It's unbelievably peaceful. There's just the two you and the driver. At night you stop by an island, he cooks a meal, and you sleep under the stars.

we got a package just from a travel agency in Cairo that was train to Aswan, night in an hotel, early start tour to Abu Simbel two hours drive away, bus to Luxor, overnight at an hotel, guided tour of the Valley of Kings and Queens the next day, and then fellucca boat up to the Edfu temple, also Esna temple, then bus to Hurghada.

that was when the package tour we booked in Cairo ended. You can tailor make them to suit your needs.

after that, we went independently by boat across the Gulf of Suez to Sharm el Sheikh, and then up the peninsular to Dahab, for brilliant snorkelling and diving.

it's a while ago now but in 1999, this tour cost $150 per person all in, and that's everything except (some) meals and the modest temple admission fees - all transport and the hotel accommodation was included in the price.

obviously we gave generous baksheesh to especially to the felucca sailor/driver.

I'm sure the cruiseships are great, I've been tempted by them myself especially as the prices seem reasonable even when booked overseas, but I'm not kidding, felucca is the best way to sail the Nile - sometimes, we'd pass by the big cruiseships and we'd spot the passengers who would be waving at us, and you could tell they were jealous of us inches away from the water, bravely tacking our way upstream in the tiny sail boat.

OK, we might have had to shit in a hole in the ground, while they had waiter service like on a cruise ship, but our boat was still the better one to be on.

whatever you'll enjoy Egypt. It's got to be pretty close to being the best all-round tourist destination in the world.
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you've chosen just one of the better months (November) by the way. Not too hot, and not too cold - in December/January it can get distinctly chilly in Egypt, even Cairo can often get into single figures at night. In the desert when the temps drop markedly at night, and when there's elevation, it can get even colder than that.

its quite like Thailand, it can get cold but never quite cold enough to freeze.
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Went on a cruise ship down the Nile and was a great experience. Swimming pool and bar on the top deck where you could sit in the shade with a cold beer and take the passing scenery in. The food was good too.

The tourist sights are incredible. The country is well worth the visit.

Be very careful on the roads. They drive like maniacs. Worse than Thailand.
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Thanks for the well wishes.

I was told that the walkways into some of the Pyramids were kind of musty, I understand why now, thanks to Bangyai and Happyman. It doesn’t sound too appealing.
And they say the Egyptians were such good builders, in their time. Maybe good builders but not good planners. They should have planned for the future and built some bathrooms in those Pyramids so that people could take a piss while pillaging their remains.

It is nice to know some of you have been there and enjoyed your trip. Panda we’ll be doing the same thing as you once did,…sitting on the top deck next to the pool enjoying the scenery. And DD if you check the airfares with Egyptair (direct flights to and from Cairo, 812.00 US) you might find them reasonable.

Don Juan it was a little disturbing to find out what they required from a Thai (and from me in letter form) to visit the country. A certificate of employment? What if she wasn’t working,.could she still go? Financial documents? What if she didn’t want to show one of her accounts? I wouldn’t want to (for a tourist visa),...hell I don’t even like showing the Thai consulate in the states proof I can live over here without becoming a burden to the Thai society. Do they think she’s going to show too much skin? Maybe they have a problem with women who might wear painted on jeans. Just silly the stigma some people have about Thais.

Callippo we’ll be sailing on a felucca, for a short time. I guess they (the cruise operators) want to give us the experience of that type of boat. It would be nice to sail the Nile like you did, however I don’t think it would provide us with the comforts we have become accustom to at this stage in both of our lives (you know like a toilet that flushed, something along the lines you mentioned). I also don’t think I could live down the ridicule my family and some of my friends wives who have become very fond of the girlfriend would give me, once they found out how we spent our trip.
Sailing on a felucca, sleeping under the stars,…does sound more romantic. If I was younger and had the time and money, I would do it your way. And yes,.I’ll be one of those people sitting on the top deck of the boat we are on and watching the felucca’s as we pass them and think how nice it would be.
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Flew into Cairo yesterday and visited to a few sites. When I get back to Thailand I will attach stories to the pictures (many more).






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the best way Nile river trip is on a small fellucca sail boat. We took ours tacking upstream from Luxor to the Edfu temple, it's an overnighter, you just sleep on the boat at the riverside. It's unbelievably peaceful. There's just the two you and the driver. At night you stop by an island, he cooks a meal, and you sleep under the stars.

we got a package just from a travel agency in Cairo that was train to Aswan, night in an hotel, early start tour to Abu Simbel two hours drive away, bus to Luxor, overnight at an hotel, guided tour of the Valley of Kings and Queens the next day, and then fellucca boat up to the Edfu temple, also Esna temple, then bus to Hurghada.

that was when the package tour we booked in Cairo ended. You can tailor make them to suit your needs.

after that, we went independently by boat across the Gulf of Suez to Sharm el Sheikh, and then up the peninsular to Dahab, for brilliant snorkelling and diving.

it's a while ago now but in 1999, this tour cost $150 per person all in, and that's everything except (some) meals and the modest temple admission fees - all transport and the hotel accommodation was included in the price.

obviously we gave generous baksheesh to especially to the felucca sailor/driver.

I'm sure the cruiseships are great, I've been tempted by them myself especially as the prices seem reasonable even when booked overseas, but I'm not kidding, felucca is the best way to sail the Nile - sometimes, we'd pass by the big cruiseships and we'd spot the passengers who would be waving at us, and you could tell they were jealous of us inches away from the water, bravely tacking our way upstream in the tiny sail boat.

OK, we might have had to shit in a hole in the ground, while they had waiter service like on a cruise ship, but our boat was still the better one to be on.

whatever you'll enjoy Egypt. It's got to be pretty close to being the best all-round tourist destination in the world.
totally agree., small boatts the way to go, cruise ship crowds give me nightmares, in fact my parents did one down the nile just last year. nuff said,
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I did a tour of Egypt about 15 years ago. It was a great experience and I'm sure you'll enjoy yourselves. I recommend going to the night show at the pyramids, it was just like the James bond movie without the killings.
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Was at the pyramids for the millenium. Jean Michelle Jarre or wotever his name is did a 12 hour gig.

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There was an old tour guide called Mohamed that showed us around Luxor temple (or one of the temples) and very dramatically started the tour by saying.

"In ancient times, before entering the temple, the great sphinx would ask each person this riddle which they had to answer corectly before being aloud to passssssss ooooo (drama added ). What has 4 legs in the morning, 2 legs in the afternoon and 3 legs at night? ooooooo"

I was only 15 and the youngest person on the tour by about 40 years but answered it straight away and he called me a cheeky little shit and that I'd ruined his act as no one normally gets it.

I saw him on the national geographic channel a few years ago and he was still telling the same story. Maybe you'll get him!
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