Beautiful Lancashire

[Mathos]

Originally Posted by CharleyFarley

I remember visiting Pleasington golf course, which didn't represent the natural beauty of the county.

Good beer up that way though. I just love those village inns.

Cheers Charley..


I have an odd photograph or two somewhere of Pleasington golf Club house. If I locate them in the next few days I'll put them on board.

[Mathos]

I took Flobo for a drive out today.

Weather wasn't exactly brilliant but the rain kept off until earlier this evening.

It was dull with a light breeze, but we had a really nice drive around some of Lancashire's pleasant and scenic country roads.




The drive through the old Roman Town of Ribchester was exceptional. Much better than doing the same at weekend, when it is always busy.


Ribchester Arms is an exceptionally superb building.

Always well patronised due to the reputation it maintains.

It's a family run business, a pub, restaurant and hotel ideally located to obtain a fair percentage of the visitors to the Ribble Valley, Trough and Forest of Bowland throughout the year.

If I remember rightly (We didn't call in here today} it supports local food providers and shows their names on a local board within the restaurant areas. Most of the restaurants are in the habit of doing this in Lancashire.

I know it won the Regional Pub of the year award in 2004 as well.


Ribchester has an outstanding Museum with a strikingly good selection of 'goodies' on show from the days of The Roman Occupation of these fair isles.

[Mathos]

The River Dunsop and the River Hodder meet at Dunsop Bridge before flowing south to join the River Ribble on the outside of Clitheroe.

The Village of Dunsop is so picturesque and quaint; rather spectacular.

Dunsop is recognised by the Ordnance survey as the closest village to the centre of The British Isles.

It attracts many walkers throughout the year and it is possible to follow the actual trail which The Lancashire WITCHES were made to walk to their trials at Lancaster Castle.




You just don't come across many places like this it's beauty and simplicity is outstanding.




Quack, quack, quack...

I had a bit of a chat with the chap at the petrol station, it's attendant service only, he doesn't want to modernise or go self service.

It's his life being there to serve his customers on a personal basis.



This is perhaps a better photograph with regards to the petrol station.

How quaint is quaint?




The river runs through the village on the other side of the village green. It's showing signs of lack of water as well. We have not had a lot of rain of late. It will probably change now Wimbledon is in the 'Off Mode'




H.M. Queen Elizabeth who is of course The Duke of Lancaster, is a fairly regular visitor to this part of The British Isles and has walked across Dunsop Bridge.

In fact, she probably owns it..




I hope you like these photographs, I think it's a gorgeous area myself.

[Mathos]

These are quite a rare animal to spot in Lancashire!

It was massive.

{It's not a tiger Shark either} Phew, don't start that again...



It looks really daft, don't you think?

I was laughing at him, and he simply stared at me with that indignant expression.

They even have those funny Emu birds in some part of the county.

In The Forest of Bowland they have let a few herds of Wild Boar loose as well. We didn't see any today, apparently they are quite timid with regards to humans.





I have some more River photographs, I took about eight and couldn't decide which was the best out of these three so I'm putting them all up.





Water is so beautiful to look at in any event.



Any comments on which you think is the best out of those three would be appreciated too.

Thanks in advance.

[Mathos]

Look at these, aren't they absolutely stunning?




Show winners in years to come I reckon.




The Royal Lancashire Show will welcome these with open arms, you can bet a quid or two on that.





Once again, I couldn't make my mind up which was the best photograph to show, so they all go on.

Hope you like them as well.




Don't they look great as well.


This fellow below looks puzzled though.




There is some outstanding property in the area.

Property in Britain in general is presently on a downer of some 20%

The Ribble Valley is on a 17.5% increase and that's a fact.



I have quite a bit more to put on from this section will put them on through the week.

It's a tad late right now.

[Mathos]

[sabang]

^ I used to have a couple of pet alpaca's in Australia. They love raw carrots.

Country pubs, and a pint of local bitter.

[Mathos]

Originally Posted by sabang

^ I used to have a couple of pet alpaca's in Australia. They love raw carrots.

Country pubs, and a pint of local bitter.

Gorgeous critters aren't they.

Flying visit on here because it's late for me.

Midnight. Wow!





There aren't too many things in the world much better to cast your eyes on than a couple Lancashire Bars and all they have to offer.




Isn't that a beautiful sight.

Both of them, spectacular.

[wanderering walter]

You mention the Queen Duke of Lancaster ,all military services swear allegiance to the Duke, not the Government!! , this goes back to I think Henry 4, 14 th century, he, in law stated that the county Palatinate of Lancaster which included many parts of UK were immune from the Kings right, ( there is a complex legal situation here that I am not fully conversant with but the gist is that any law passed by Parliament cannot have any authority within the Palatinate) Modern governments have seized the rights of the sovereign although she /he needs to sanction whatever!! thats why she has to be presented with all Bills, and legally sign them, this is a conspiracy 100s of years old,

[Mathos]

Originally Posted by wanderering walter

You mention the Queen Duke of Lancaster ,all military services swear allegiance to the Duke, not the Government!! , this goes back to I think Henry 4, 14 th century, he, in law stated that the county Palatinate of Lancaster which included many parts of UK were immune from the Kings right, ( there is a complex legal situation here that I am not fully conversant with but the gist is that any law passed by Parliament cannot have any authority within the Palatinate) Modern governments have seized the rights of the sovereign although she /he needs to sanction whatever!! thats why she has to be presented with all Bills, and legally sign them, this is a conspiracy 100s of years old,

Thanks for the input Walter, interesting issues above, I might make time to look into what you say, it's got sound backbone to it.

Her Majesty was in Preston today.

She was at Fulwood Barracks;-

I've taken the little bit below from The Internet.

Preston is one of England's newest cities. It is located right at the heart of North West England. In addition to being easily accessible from practically anywhere in the country, Preston is the gateway to many of Lancashire’s beautiful countryside and coastal resorts, such as the Lake District and Blackpool. Preston, itself, has a wide range of local facilities ranging from go-karts to the National Football Museum. There is a broad range of pubs, clubs, restaurants and theatres. Beyond the city centre, around one third of Preston is dedicated to open spaces with Victorian parks, woodland, riverside walks and a country park.

Fulwood Barracks is the home to various units with the present occupiers being, 5 General Support Medical Regiment and Headquarters 42 (NW) Brigade. The barracks is also home to the museum of the Lancashire Regiment. There is a gymnasium, Regimental Bar, Pay as you Dine facility, church, and HIVE.

My sister in law went to see her board The Royal Train (I assume it was The Royal Train which she boarded at Preston Station, maybe going back to London?)

My elder daughter who is a nurse at The Royal Preston Hospital saw Her Majesty in a convoy of cars going to Singleton, apparently she made a flying visit to " Singletons Farm" at Singleton; home to the famous 'Grandma Singleton's Cheese.'

The Queen has many times been quoted as liking 'The Ribble Valley' as one of her favourite places to visit.

Just in case she is taking a peek at my Lancashire thread, This one is especially for her:-






I know for a fact she had a meal here, {The inn at Whitewell} local Goosnargh Chicken, local Beef, followed by Apple tart, and if my information
is correct from Flobo, it was on the 25th May 2006.

The local gamekeeper John Clark presented Her Majesty with one of his personal paintings of two pheasants.






The same day she visited the little Village Store here at Dunsop Bridge.

She was shown the recipe for the local scones and tea from the Puddleducks Cafe.

She spoke with local folk and staff.





So I raise my glass to The Queen, The Duke of Lancaster.

[wanderering walter]

Hi Mathos me again, I used to live off Watling

[wanderering walter]

Hi Mathos me again, I used to live off Watling St Rd back in the 50s in my parents house, about half a mile from the Barracks !! just a thought on the Duke of Lancaster bit, as you know its now called the Duchy of Lancaster which includes vasts amounts of lands thruout the UK, all belonging to the Sovereign, now here,s the weird thing, there is always in the government a Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, why? because its tradition, no , he is the one who usurps the Queens legal power in order to "legitimise parliament" Back in the 70s I knew an old buffer who knew about all this , Hugh Thornton from Kirkham, he had this book entitled The Duchy of Lancaster written in the 1940s by a leading civil servant, on one page he concludes all that I have just said, ie, the Kings writ cannot apply in the Palatinate of Lancaster, the old bugger would not lend me the book, he said that they were all withdrawn by the publisher because of it,s content, logically the government had some say in this, I said that this sounded like a conspiracy, he agreed, I doubted it, so he said go to the Library and find the book, Went to Manchester central library and found it, same title, same author, EXCEPT THAT IS WAS ONLY 10 % OF THE SIZE THAT I SAW!!!! all the relevant info had been removed, it was just a small history of the Duchy, that,s how the publisher reprinted it, mmmmhhhh what do you think of that then,
I am a Preston lad, where are you from, regards Walter

[wanderering walter]

Hi MATHOS I remember 1 thing in the 70s, some people I knew were having trouble with the local council about where they lived a caravan and 2 sheds on their land, The councl wanted them off and took them to Preston Mag Court, half way through this guy Hugh Thornton addressed the court ( as a friend of the court ) warning them of illegally rubber stamping parliaments authority over the sovereigns, in other words they were committing an offence, The court retired and 10 mins later reappeared asking if the Friend of the Court was Hugh Thornton, he was, they then announced that the case would be deferred until later, 1 year later the council announced that the family could stay until the death of the mother, then leave, Mother died 25 years ago, the family are still there, Thornton said that after the court appearance and his comments the case would be quietly forgotten about, he was right,

[Mathos]

Originally Posted by wanderering walter

Hi Mathos me again, I used to live off Watling St Rd back in the 50s in my parents house, about half a mile from the Barracks !! just a thought on the Duke of Lancaster bit, as you know its now called the Duchy of Lancaster which includes vasts amounts of lands thruout the UK, all belonging to the Sovereign, now here,s the weird thing, there is always in the government a Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, why? because its tradition, no , he is the one who usurps the Queens legal power in order to "legitimise parliament" Back in the 70s I knew an old buffer who knew about all this , Hugh Thornton from Kirkham, he had this book entitled The Duchy of Lancaster written in the 1940s by a leading civil servant, on one page he concludes all that I have just said, ie, the Kings writ cannot apply in the Palatinate of Lancaster, the old bugger would not lend me the book, he said that they were all withdrawn by the publisher because of it,s content, logically the government had some say in this, I said that this sounded like a conspiracy, he agreed, I doubted it, so he said go to the Library and find the book, Went to Manchester central library and found it, same title, same author, EXCEPT THAT IS WAS ONLY 10 % OF THE SIZE THAT I SAW!!!! all the relevant info had been removed, it was just a small history of the Duchy, that,s how the publisher reprinted it, mmmmhhhh what do you think of that then,
I am a Preston lad, where are you from, regards Walter

I'm what we call 'gob-smacked' after reading that outstanding post Walter.

Did you ever inquire or kick up a fuss as to the brutalising of the original book?


I'm a Mancunian Walter, born in Blackley (Crumpsall Hospital).

I moved to Leyland when I was seventeen and I've been here ever since.

That would be March 1963. Preston North end were in the final of the FA Cup
the following year 1964 but unfortunately lost to West Ham.

The name on every PNE supporters lips in them days was 'Dawson'

They have a ceremony in a pub in Bamber Bridge as well, like a funeral if PNE go down a division and the buried coffin comes up if they go up. I'll have to find a bit more information out regarding that.

A 'Gradely Town'

Watling Street Road, your talking real Preston there Walter. Nice area and Fulwood barracks on your Mum and Dads doorstep so to speak.

You raised some very interesting issues above as well Walter.

I've taken a little information regarding The Duchy of Lancaster from Wikipedia.

The Duchy of Lancaster was created for John of Gaunt, a younger son of King Edward III of England, when John had acquired its constituent lands through marriage to the Lancaster heiress. As the Lancaster inheritance it goes back to 1265, when Henry III granted to his younger son, Edmund, lands forfeited by Simon de Montfort, Earl of Leicester. In 1266 the estates of Robert de Ferrers, 6th Earl of Derby, [1] another of the protagonists in the Second Barons' War, were added. In 1267 the estate was formerly granted as the County, Honour and Castle of Lancaster. In 1284 Edmund was given the Manor of Savoy by his mother, Queen Eleanor, the niece of the original grantee, Peter II, Count of Savoy. King Edward III raised Lancashire into a county palatine in 1351, the then holder, Henry of Grosmont, Edmund's grandson, was made Duke of Lancaster. After his death a charter of 1362 conferred the dukedom on his son-in-law John of Gaunt, Earl of Lancaster, and the heirs male of his body lawfully begotten for ever.
The first act of King Henry IV was to declare that the Lancastrian inheritance be held separately from the other possessions of the Crown, and should descend to his male heirs. This separation of identities was confirmed in 1461 by Edward IV when he incorporated the inheritance and the palatinate responsibilities under the title of the Duchy of Lancaster, and stipulated that it be held separate from other inheritances by him and his heirs, Kings of England. The Duchy thereafter effectively passed to the reigning monarch and its separate identity preserved it in 1760 from being surrendered with the Crown Estates in exchange for the Civil List. It is primarily a landed inheritance belonging to the reigning sovereign.

The duchy is not the property of The Crown, but is instead the personal (inherited) property of the monarch and has been since 1399, when the Dukedom of Lancaster, held by Henry of Bolingbroke, merged with the crown on his appropriation of the throne (after the dispossession from Richard II). The Loyal Toast, 'The Queen, the Duke of Lancaster' is still in regular use within the Duchy.
The chief officer of the Duchy is the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, a high position which is sometimes a cabinet post. Since for at least the last two centuries the estate has been run by a deputy, the Chancellor rarely has had any significant duties pertaining to management of the Duchy itself. He is usually available as a minister without portfolio. In recent times his duties, administrative, financial and legal, have been said to occupy an average of one day a week.
The monarch derives the Privy Purse from the revenues of the Duchy. The surplus for the year ended 31 March 2005 was £9.811 million and the Duchy was valued at nearly £310 million[2]. The lands of the Duchy are not to be confused with the Crown Estate, whose revenues have been handed to the Treasury in exchange for receiving a yearly civil list payment since the 18th century.
Both the Duchy of Lancaster and its counterpart in Cornwall have special statutory rights not available to other estates held by Peers, counties palatine - for example Bona Vacantia operates in the advantage of the Duke rather than the Crown throughout the historic Duchy.[3]
There are also separate Attorneys General for the estates. Generally, though, the exemptions all tend to follow the same line: any rights pertaining to the Crown generally in most areas of the country instead pertain to the Duke of the Duchy. Generally, any Act of Parliament relating to these sorts of rights will specifically set out the special exemptions for the two Duchies and specify the extent to which they apply to the Duchy. They are also, however, subject to strict regulation, especially with respect to auditing and alienation of land. Officers of the Duchy include the Vice-Chancellor, the Attorney-General of the Duchy of Lancaster and Attorney and Serjeant within the County Palatine


This obviously has some bearing on the knowledge Hugh Thornton acquired from his original copy of the book you mentioned {The Duchy of Lancaster}.

The obvious planning problems encountered by the family you refer to regarding Preston Magistrates Court, that must have made them stand to attention, I reckon the 'Chairman' at the time would have had kittens.

It's a long time since i heard the name of A FRIEND OF THE COURT.

You deserve a medal yourself for retaining such excellent memory of outstanding value.

Well done Walter. Every Credit to you.

[Mathos]

Originally Posted by Mathos

Cheers Charley..


I have an odd photograph or two somewhere of Pleasington golf Club house. If I locate them in the next few days I'll put them on board.

I hope these stir a memory or two for you Charley.




Not so old these either, 30th of April this year.




Time would be right as well, 8.45 am.

[Mathos]

I had a photograph or two more of Dunsop Bridge taken on Tuesday last. {24.06.2008}

St Georges. Now that has to be a fitting name.

The little Church in the village is quite unique in it's appearance.



There are some outstanding places of superb beauty in this part of Lancashire.



Strange though, in winter it can look extremely bleak.
It's a different form of beauty if the
snow is covering the land and bending the boughs
of the trees or the evergreens are sagging
under the weight of the heavy snow.




I might well be in The UK for most of next winter,
if I am and someone reminds me,
I'll have a drive out here when it snows
with Flobo and take a few winter photographs.




The trees in the area, especially the old oak trees are splendid.

I was curious regarding this particular young beauty, it looked superb but I couldn't be certain what it was.

Any assistance in naming it would be appreciated.