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    Ex-BG Possible?

    Confession to make here. I was pretty close to helping pay for a gals tuition to a public uni. After a few days of thinking and my mate saying,"What are you, a fookin' idiot?" it all made sense and I cut off contact with the girl. Other than that temporary moment of insanity, I've never even considered supporting those lazy, ungrateful (but fun) gals. This Thailandguru fellow has a few interesting tales of helping girls who "wanted" to escape the industry. If you read this and still try to help one of them, you have only yourself to blame.

    Noot

    Noot was intelligent, street-smart and had a lot of energy. She could speak English well, and could read and write it fairly well, too. She could do email. Noot hung out at the open air beer bars but I never saw her flirting with men. She talked more with other women, a joker, and just watched people coming and going, with no interaction with men. She was a friend who was somewhat interesting to talk with, but not someone to have a sexual relationship with, and I made it clear that I did not have sexual interest in her. (She is quite pretty, nonetheless, but just not my type.) She expressed that she didn't like going with men, but she could not do get a job to make enough money to support herself, her son (foreign father long gone and she hated him) and crippled father.

    She asked about me, and I explained my business with her. She expressed interest in helping me, including stating some solutions to some problems I had. I was fairly impressed. She seemed perfect for a particular role. I just had street errands for her to do for starters, as her first test, but she was happy with that, as she needed a financial break.

    She had sold her mobile for needed cash but had an active SIM card, so I gave her an old mobile handphone of mine, and since she had only 78 baht credit, I also got a 300 baht recharge card, and gave her a little bit of cash to eat and general expenses for several days. (I figured it would take just one day to test her.) I told her to wait for my calls.

    I immediately sent her an SMS on the way home that night with a concrete task for the next day. That next day, at the end of the day when I had some time, I called her to find out how she'd done. She hadn't done the task, and didn't want to talk about the SMS. She just wanted to meet with me to talk more about the possibility of her working for me. What DID she do that day? She didn't have anything to report, and pressing the matter I found that she had just sat around at home.

    I sensed that she wanted to meet just to pressure me face-to-face for more money. I've heard this before. Nonetheless, I had already invested too much of my own time thinking about her, and wanted some answers to some questions about her past. I'd jotted them down on a pad, preparing for an interview. I had nothing to lose, and if the interview went bad and she just asked for money then I'd get my phone back.

    I decided to meet at a quiet place outside the bars, and stated a specific place halfway, careful to pick a place where numerous air conditioned buses go and there were nice coffee shops. It would be a 30 minute ride for her in traffic.

    However, then she complained about meeting me halfway. It was a cheap bus ride on a main route from her home, yet she complained about the taxi fare, and in a tone like she was seeking excuses not to go. She wanted me to come all the way to her. Then, while I was talking, she just started yelling at someone else, not giving me her undivided attention. I felt disrespected, and in response my tone got more disciplinarian, stating to her that if she wanted to work with me then she would need to be more professional. She lost her self-control and started yelling at ME about how I was letting her down and screamed "f*** you!" twice in the phone and hung up. (Ten minutes later, she called me but I had moved back to working with my other employees and didn't bother to answer.)

    Maybe her explosiveness is why her farang boyfriend left her for friend (and now ex-friend).

    I still feel sorry for her, but she had her chance with me and she blew it. There are a lot of other people in this world who I can give a chance to, and they are more sustainable, profitable and mutually beneficial.

    Ae

    Ae was proper and strove to run her own business selling nice clothes, with the ultimate ambition of exporting clothes and other labor intensive things. She had nice styles herself, clearly an artistic sort. She also had a full high school education and had started at a university but dropped out shortly thereafter. Her stated reason was lack of money.

    I had a client who was upgrading their CAD computers and had an idle stack of Pentium I's and 14 inch monitors. (This was MANY years ago.)

    Ae had expressed interest in improving her computer/Windows/business software skills, so I bought one from the client for cheap, spent time reformatting and setting it up for her with good software, bought books for her, delivered it all and helped her get started with some personal lessons. However, when I was gone, she did nothing more than writing emails to guys. She made no progress whatsoever on our strategy. Whenever I'd stop by with cheerful expectations, I'd be disappointed to find her just sitting around watch trash TV. Checking the computer, she had only done emails, visited on-line games, and other trash things. The only questions asked was how we could get the computer to play 3D video games.

    I discussed my issues gently, but she was just quiet and pleasant, always accomodating and made plans for the next day, but never executed them. After a few weeks of that, I just dumped that "project". Shortly after that, she was back into the discos without money.

    Jae

    Jae was similar to Ae in stated aspirations. A friend of mine sent her to BCC (Business and Computers). Unfortunately, he had to push her out the door to get there on time, as she didn't watch the clock. When he wasn't there, she skipped class.

    Guys out of town get stories from the ladies that they are attending classes, but having a private investigator check up on them reveals that many do not. In fact, some go back and get a partial refund of their tuition.

    Pim

    Pim did more damage than any other Thai prostitute, as regards my willingness to try to help. Same story, about how she felt very bad about what she had done and was doing, but needed the money.

    Pim was studying a difficult subject in a university, was studious (as I observed repeatedly), was oh-so-close to graduation, and some checking revealed that her grades were fairly good. She was in fact a good student. I thought that if there was any prostitute who I could help get out of the business, then Pim was her.

    I went and paid her tuition for her, gave her some cash to get her by for awhile, and by email gave her a list of phone calls to make to get information, which she could do at her own schedule.

    Unfortunately, the calls didn't get made. She would call ME very sweetly when she needed more money, and the money seemed to go too quickly. I knew other students who stretched their money much further. Pim was just months from graduation if she just past her last (and most difficult) courses, and with her degree and grades she could immediately get a good paying job. With some excuses, I gave her a second chance. However, round two of this got a couple of business calls made but then slacked off, not caring about my business.

    She was just another lady who was good at pleading for help, but was not willing to help me in return. Big talk, no implementation. Talk is easy...

    The next time Pim called, I specifically raised these principles with her. She said she was sorry, but I said I'm sorry, too, and no "salary" until she does her work. I gave her another chance -- when the work is completed satisfactorily, then the salary is waiting. Her response? A pleading but increasingly aggressive "please don't do this to me, I have no money, what will I do now, boo-hoo-hoo, please not right now, the worst possible time, I have just 45 baht now and I was depending on you, I must finish my classes, ..." bit.

    Just a few hours before her call, a customer had called me to pay me 2500 baht which he owed me, but wanted me to go pick it up and sign a receipt with his accountant. I wasn't going to spend the time making a special trip, so I had made a "someday when I'm in the area" kind of arrangement. However, I called back and he agreed that this lady could go pick up the money and sign for it.

    The office was right along an air conditioned bus route from her Ramkamhaeng apartment, maybe a 30 minute trip and 14 baht each way. I called her and told her that if she went to pick up the 2500 baht, then she could keep it all, and she'd have enough money to get by a while longer until she could complete the other tasks I'd given her. She said OK, though not as happily as I expected. A few hours later I called the client but he reported no sign of her. So I called her back. She hadn't gone, sounded lazy, and at that point she asked me to go get the money and bring it to her!

    Read the complete article here: Thailand Guru

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    Nice post, Desi.

    Fortunately, there are many who work their arses off, too. Even the Goddess has only had one day off sick this week (as well as the Bank Holiday)!

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    Marmite is right. There are plenty, and I do mean plenty, of good, honest, intelligent, kind, caring, independent Thai women available.

    Quite why foreign men decide that they have to get involved with bad, dishonest, stupid, unkind, uncaring, needy Thai women I will never know.

    It's a bit like landing in America and asking, "Excuse me, where is the nearest trailer park, I want to meet some ladies!". Would you do it? No way, but so many idiots do it here. Get a grip fellas, have some self-respect and don't start doing stupid dumb shit you wouldn't do back home. You give us all a bad name!

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    His article is just about trying to help bargirls/freelancers (not regular gals) who claim to be a victim of circumstance. He called their bluff and these are the results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    Nice post, Desi.

    Fortunately, there are many who work their arses off, too. Even the Goddess has only had one day off sick this week (as well as the Bank Holiday)!

    Arai kha? Mai Khao Jai.. :roll:

    Tuesday was the only one day off sick this year. :?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    Nice post, Desi.

    Fortunately, there are many who work their arses off, too. Even the Goddess has only had one day off sick this week (as well as the Bank Holiday)!
    I wasn't going to comment on this because I promised her I'd be nice to her...but since you've raised it MM (!) you're right...there are many who work their arses off, but there are many who are slackers...calling in sick because you're tired from your weekend activities certainly does not qualify you as a hard worker..and you can be sure her boss will know the truth

    Bah

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    Errr... klanmaster, you can say what you want to say still. I will think what you say is/are knowledge which I should learn.


    Like my dad always says to me "Think positive".



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    Quote Originally Posted by Goddess of Whatever

    Tuesday was the only one day off sick this year. :?
    Quote Originally Posted by Goddess of Whatever
    woke up again at 6:30 am then I decided to call the boss that I was sick errr.. actually I am not sick, just so tired. I need to take a rest some more

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    Well, this thread has gone downhill!

    Started well, about dumb farangs who get involved with dumb sluts and now we're talking about how many days Goddess has had off sick!

    Oh dear.

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    klongie!!!!!!!

    I know. ops: Thanks for remind me but it's the only one day off sick this year really!!!! My boss knows how hard work I am. I need some rest, sometimes.

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    Charity begins at home is what I can say about this thread.

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    njdesi, I'm broke at the moment, could you please send me 200 Baht for buying some porns? ops:

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    I fucking hate working with people who take days off cause they are hung over or tired - makes me proper angry that I can't do it.

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    Good bad girls and there's bad good girls. Such is life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donleavy
    Marmite is right. There are plenty, and I do mean plenty, of good, honest, intelligent, kind, caring, independent Thai women available.

    Quite why foreign men decide that they have to get involved with bad, dishonest, stupid, unkind, uncaring, needy Thai women I will never know.

    It's a bit like landing in America and asking, "Excuse me, where is the nearest trailer park, I want to meet some ladies!". Would you do it? No way, but so many idiots do it here. Get a grip fellas, have some self-respect and don't start doing stupid dumb shit you wouldn't do back home. You give us all a bad name!
    Sorry Don, I blame me mum! ops:

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    That's life.

    Some people live, some people die.
    Some people hate, some people like.




    "Think positive" Thanks! daddy!

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    Some people live, some people die.
    Explain please!

    You'll never do a whole lot unless you're brave enough to try.
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    And people thought she was just a big pair of tits
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    My tits are not big errrr... just quite right size.

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    Some people live, some people die.
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    Very wise words there. Do you have one of those calanders with the daily quote of the day on it.

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    Those words are from my ex.

    Here also ;

    "Born alone.. live alone.. die alone.." That's what he said to me after we broke up.

    ***sad***

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    Goddess, you have to lose the obsession with shitty, meaningless, greetings card philosophy.

    It's a bit embarassing.

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    ops:

    Okie Dokie..



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    Quote Originally Posted by Goddess of Whatever
    Those words are from my ex.

    Here also ;

    "Born alone.. live alone.. die alone.." That's what he said to me after we broke up.

    ***sad***
    I think it's actually from a Verve song babe

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    You have just destroyed her loving memory of her ex.

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    Just the right size, GoW?


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