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    US War plans red and orange.

    War Plan Red - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    GLASNOST Berlin - A 1935 US Plan for Invasion of Canada

    1812 - War of 1812 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Madison and his advisers believed that conquest of Canada would be easy ....
    ............Americans then believed that many in Upper Canada would rise up and greet a United States invading army as liberators
    Looks like US foreign policy hardly changes. Their arrogance continues to fuck themselves up as well.

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    It's easy for a narrow mind to hate such a big target!

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    What, do all yanks want to invade Canada?

    This came up after speaking to a Canadian a few days ago. I wonder if his attitude to the US was mirrored by other Canadians and what the Americans on here thought about these things.
    Is this almighty fuck up mentioned in US schools and so on?
    Be happy dudes. It's a lot more fun than crying.

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    The US most likely has invasion plans for every country in the world, in case the need shall arise. I would think most large armies practice the same strategic planning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    The US most likely has invasion plans for every country in the world, in case the need shall arise. "I would think most armies practice the same strategic planning".
    Yups Pickel, Denmark have huge invasion plans for China and the US

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    Nice edit Lars. They'd have to come armed with a large amount of frekadilars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
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    Nice edit Lars. They'd have to come armed with a large amount of frekadilars.
    Truth be told Mate Denmark is cutting back on defense here in the economic crisis, soon there will only be an automatic answering machine saying "we surrender"

    But the frikadeller is still top notch.


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    Quote Originally Posted by larvidchr
    automatic answering machine saying "we surrender"
    France have patent pending on that!

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    Frikkadelle- now thats just a rissole with a fancy name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel
    The US most likely has invasion plans for every country in the world, in case the need shall arise.
    Not very good ones though, still oneday they may win the war in Iraq etc etc etc.

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    That's the thing though, they are only invasion plans. They usually haven't got a clue what to do after that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr Fred View Post
    War Plan Red - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    GLASNOST Berlin - A 1935 US Plan for Invasion of Canada

    1812 - War of 1812 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Madison and his advisers believed that conquest of Canada would be easy ....
    ............Americans then believed that many in Upper Canada would rise up and greet a United States invading army as liberators
    Looks like US foreign policy hardly changes. Their arrogance continues to fuck themselves up as well.
    I am trying to figure out how the war of 1812 figures in here




    BTW, you skipped this part

    Canadian military officer Lieutenant Colonel James "Buster" Sutherland Brown developed an earlier counterpart to War Plan Red called Defence Scheme No. 1 on April 12, 1921. Maintaining that the best defence was a good offense, "Buster" Brown planned for rapid deployment of flying columns to occupy Seattle, Great Falls, Minneapolis, and Albany. With no hope of holding these objectives, the idea was to divert American troops to the flanks and away from Canada, hopefully long enough for Imperial allies to arrive with reinforcements

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr Fred View Post
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    What, do all yanks want to invade Canada?

    This came up after speaking to a Canadian a few days ago. I wonder if his attitude to the US was mirrored by other Canadians and what the Americans on here thought about these things.
    Is this almighty fuck up mentioned in US schools and so on?
    It isn't mentioned in US history because it just isn't worth the breath of the professor.

    When I was in Montreal I asked a waiter what his feeling about Americans, especially since they had tried to break away and the whole issue about language. His answer wsa we don't hate Americans, we hate english speaking Canadiens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
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    That's the thing though, they are only invasion plans. They usually haven't got a clue what to do after that.
    You mean like d-day, Pattons taking of Italy, and then the Marshall plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sccrhound View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mr Fred View Post
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    What, do all yanks want to invade Canada?

    This came up after speaking to a Canadian a few days ago. I wonder if his attitude to the US was mirrored by other Canadians and what the Americans on here thought about these things.
    Is this almighty fuck up mentioned in US schools and so on?
    It isn't mentioned in US history because it just isn't worth the breath of the professor.
    That's interesting since exactly the same thoughts about the welcome US forces would get in Canada were used in Iraq.
    Perhaps history does hold lessons "worth the breath of the professor".

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    Quote Originally Posted by sccrhound View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
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    That's the thing though, they are only invasion plans. They usually haven't got a clue what to do after that.
    You mean like d-day, Pattons taking of Italy, and then the Marshall plan.

    The fact that you have to go that far back in history, kinda proves my point. Oh, and I also included one of these:

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr Fred
    Is this almighty fuck up mentioned in US schools and so on?
    I dont think they mention Eye-raq or Afganistan either...

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    The early 20th century is a fascinating period in global politics. US planners created the Canadian invasion contingencies because as tension increased between the US and Japan during the 1920ís it was uncertain which side Britain would take in any war. As Britain and Japan had been in an alliance for most of the previous 20 years, and though the alliance had officially terminated in 1923, the fear was that Britain would side with Japan in order to further its own agenda in the Pacific. Therefore these plans were developed in case Britain choose try and use Canada as base to attack the US in a joint war with Japan.

    When Britain declared war on Germany in 1914, Japan followed per the provisions of the 1902 Alliance. Almost immediately, Japan attacked and captured the German base at Tsingtao. Japan also sent ships the Mediterranean and assisted in the protection of allied shipping near Malta from U-boat attacks. Japan also used the Alliance to seize Germanyís Pacific possessions, greatly increasing it influence in the region.

    As ridiculous as it seems in hindsight, at the time during the mid 1920ís it was not unconceivable the Japan and Britain would jointly fight a war against the US for control of the Pacific. Of course, as is usual, actual events turned out completely different then anyone imagined at the time.
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    interesting..

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    Come on, Thaihome, how can you bash the US with a rational factual based response like that???? Damm you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thaihome
    Of course, as is usual, actual events turned out completely different then anyone imagined at the time.
    When you say anyone, you actually mean paranoid Americans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr Fred View Post
    War Plan Red - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    GLASNOST Berlin - A 1935 US Plan for Invasion of Canada

    1812 - War of 1812 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Madison and his advisers believed that conquest of Canada would be easy ....
    ............Americans then believed that many in Upper Canada would rise up and greet a United States invading army as liberators
    Looks like US foreign policy hardly changes. Their arrogance continues to fuck themselves up as well.
    Original Poster:

    This looks like a CONTINGENCY PLAN.

    Nations do this all the time, and still today. Canada has a Contingency Plan on how they would attack the United States.

    You obviously don't know much about the military, contingency plans, or history.

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    ^ No, he doesn't. He just has an uncontrollable hatred for the US.
    Thaihome, thanks for teaching the boys the WWII era summary on UK/Japan.

    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
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    That's the thing though, they are only invasion plans. They usually haven't got a clue what to do after that.
    You mean like d-day, Pattons taking of Italy, and then the Marshall plan.
    The fact that you have to go that far back in history, kinda proves my point. Oh, and I also included one of these:
    Erm, the OP included the War of 1812. Remind me, was that before or after Patton, etc?

    Every army has or should have contingency plans, just like good companies do. If the libbies allowed the US military to go in and fight instead of forcing them to abandon any op where a civilian might be involved, they'd have been in and out of Iraq and largely done in A-stan by now. (I hear it now, 555, look how many civilians they killed. Sure, you mean the men, women and kids with guns or bombs strapped to their bodies?)

    Actually, the Canucks are invading the US. Do our grocery shopping across the border where prices are less than half what we pay up here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Thaihome
    Of course, as is usual, actual events turned out completely different then anyone imagined at the time.
    When you say anyone, you actually mean paranoid Americans?

    No, was actually talking about the Brits who ended up fighting the Japanese on the side of the side of the Americans 15 years or so later.
    TH

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
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    That's the thing though, they are only invasion plans. They usually haven't got a clue what to do after that.
    You mean like d-day, Pattons taking of Italy, and then the Marshall plan.

    The fact that you have to go that far back in history, kinda proves my point. Oh, and I also included one of these:
    I find your post amazing. All of the OP's links related to events or actions that were pre WWII. You might want to think before you post.

    Edit: Let me add this British document which is still causing problems

    http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Peace%20Pr...%20Declaration
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